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micMajestic
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"Was it wise for Count Bass D to change his production style after "


          

the commercial failure of "Pre-Life Crisis"?

I love boom-bap, but I didn't need that from him. I've had a hard time getting into anything after "Art For Sale".

I do see why he switched up, but would he have been better off if he kept pushing with his original sound? The real problem is he came out in an era where conversational style rapping wasn't hot. I don't think the problem was the music. 20 something years later, those tracks still sound unique & amazing.

  

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We don't get BegBorrowSteel if he doesn't switch it up.
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Yeah, I have to disagree
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His only real straight "boom-bap" releases came in like '98-'99
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In the long run, I'd say yes. I like that he keeps evolving.
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He'd be even more revered if that happened.
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His overall talent calls for something greater than this. I remember
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RE: Was it wise for Count Bass D to change his production style after
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third_i_vision
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1. "We don't get BegBorrowSteel if he doesn't switch it up."
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That album alone makes me thankful for the transition. Listened to that on headphones for the first time in a while recently - totally forgot how good some of those beats sound. DIY mixing for sure, but such a warm feel.

He has an album called Here Comes The Neighborhood sitting on the shelf. That one is apparently a return to the Pre Life Crisis sound. Fingers crossed it sees a release someday.

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Ishwip
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2. "Yeah, I have to disagree"
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I've lost track of dude the past 5 years or so I have no idea what he's sounding like nowadays, but my absolute favorites of his are Dwight Spitz, BEGBORROWSTEEL, L7, Some Music Pt. 2, Act Your Waist Size.

I like Pre-Life Crisis and Art For Sale and respect the artistry, but I prefer the more sample-based albums or where it's a mix of samples with his playing. He was always really creative with how and what he sampled.


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mrhood75
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3. "His only real straight "boom-bap" releases came in like '98-'99"
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The "Violatin'" and "On the Reels" 12"s, to be exact.

Otherwise, as said by others, I like the mix of samples/live instrumentation that he used through the early to mid '00s. As much as I enjoy "Art For Sale." "Dwight Spitz," "Act Your Waist Size," and "Begborrowsteel" will always be favorites. And still incorporate elements of his early work.

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dustin
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Mon Dec-18-17 04:48 PM

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4. "In the long run, I'd say yes. I like that he keeps evolving."
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I think his change-up post Pre-Life Crisis was necessary. You'll read in interviews that the move was directly because Pre-Life didn't sell well.

Now, thankfully, his career has lasted 20+ years and he's explored so many different sounds from Art For Sale to sample-heavy (Dwight Spitz up to say, L7) to his latest full length Instantly New which has a sample-free, synth heavy sound.

But your question makes me wonder what the alternate timeline would look like; what if Pre-Life did really well and he stayed in that live instruments lane? Would we be talking about Count Bass D in 2017?

  

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third_i_vision
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5. "He'd be even more revered if that happened."
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>But your question makes me wonder what the alternate timeline
>would look like; what if Pre-Life did really well and he
>stayed in that live instruments lane? Would we be talking
>about Count Bass D in 2017?

Playing instruments live in concert, rapping, singing, hitting the drum machine from time to time...it's something he still does at his shows but the Dwight Spitz record was a game-changer as far as his career goes IMO. DOOM and Edan features, a raw and different approach to sampling, creative rhymes. He reached a new audience with that record and I'd bet that most of them still keep up with his music in 2017.

The selfish part of me wishes he was still in Nashville, playing weird gigs with the Wooten brothers and Futureman on a random Tuesday or whatever. He's had quite the journey though, and I think his chops as a musician have kept him relevant in the grand scheme of things.

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micMajestic
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6. "His overall talent calls for something greater than this. I remember "
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>I think his change-up post Pre-Life Crisis was necessary.
>You'll read in interviews that the move was directly because
>Pre-Life didn't sell well.
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>Now, thankfully, his career has lasted 20+ years and he's
>explored so many different sounds from Art For Sale to
>sample-heavy (Dwight Spitz up to say, L7) to his latest full
>length Instantly New which has a sample-free, synth heavy
>sound.
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>But your question makes me wonder what the alternate timeline
>would look like; what if Pre-Life did really well and he
>stayed in that live instruments lane? Would we be talking
>about Count Bass D in 2017?

buying that mini-documentary that he put out. It gave me the impression that dude was struggling, and it made little to no mention of his family.

  

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Johnny
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7. "RE: Was it wise for Count Bass D to change his production style after "
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I need to buy these old Count Bass albums again.
I think I only heard Dwight Spitz and Act Your Waist Size
also the stuff with DJ Pocket was good too

  

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