"WHICH EMCEE HAS THE MOST APPEAL WITH THE LEAST CONSCIENCE LYRICS"
I usually stick to the lyricist who are actually saying something. I've always been a lyrics fan over a beat fan. Wondering what lyricist you are addicted to that has very low bar standards regarding Lyrical Depthness.
ODB might be my goto here - swag, flow, style, yet he really ain't saying too much... but HOW he says it makes it everything.
1. "ODB a good one but I always said Big L." In response to Reply # 0 Fri Sep-01-17 09:28 AM by Brew
I'm the same as you, by the way. Which is why I was able to respond so quickly. I specifically remember in high school, in my most intense backback stage, a friend of mine was looking thru some of my CDs ... which included your typical BlackStar, Common, Roots, etc ... the alternative hip-hop that brought me here. Then he came across a Big L CD and was like, wait what ?!
I didn't really have an explanation besides the dude could rap his ass off and said things in a way so interesting that I can't *not* listen to him, even if he didn't really do a ton topically beyond brag raps.
Of course he's faaaaar from the only rapper I listened to (and still listen to) who doesn't have much to say topically. But he always topped my list of "most talented MCs with the least to say."
3. "I should really clarify this after re-reading your OP..." In response to Reply # 1
Big L has "lyrical depthness" and vocabulary; after re-reading it looks like you were looking for someone who really says nothing at all but just has good mic presence, that type of thing.
In other words I wouldn't put Big L in the same category as ODB or Nore in terms of subject matter and context/vocabulary. I nominated him to say he's my favorite rapper who doesn't really go beyond just rapping about how good he is at rapping.
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Fri Sep-01-17 11:58 PM
9. "I've Always Gravitated Towards Lyrical Braggadocious Rappers" In response to Reply # 1
To me it's not all about having something to say on the positive side but just putting down the wordplay on some "I'm the best" and so and so.
Big L. was definitely one of those who wasn't very deep in meaning often, but it's not like he didn't do some conscious songs about the streets or life, it's just he was a emcee who made sure he had some street corner rap battle verses ready locked & loaded all the time that mostly was about he can fuck your bitch, diss your homies, could get the cash or make easy money from spittin', and having bigger guns.
That's what most NYC rappers rhymed about all the time, sometimes I could see why a lot of listeners was tired of it but the same time that's what every rapper on radio was saying too just over more commercial landscape.
Ones who I liked for their complex braggadocios wordplay was Godfather Don & Percee P., great emcees but just tons of flow and wordplay.
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16. "All true and I agree with you 100%." In response to Reply # 9
>To me it's not all about having something to say on the >positive side but just putting down the wordplay on some "I'm >the best" and so and so. > >Big L. was definitely one of those who wasn't very deep in >meaning often, but it's not like he didn't do some conscious >songs about the streets or life, it's just he was a emcee who >made sure he had some street corner rap battle verses ready >locked & loaded all the time that mostly was about he can fuck >your bitch, diss your homies, could get the cash or make easy >money from spittin', and having bigger guns. > >That's what most NYC rappers rhymed about all the time, >sometimes I could see why a lot of listeners was tired of it >but the same time that's what every rapper on radio was saying >too just over more commercial landscape. > >Ones who I liked for their complex braggadocios wordplay was >Godfather Don & Percee P., great emcees but just tons of flow >and wordplay.
He's gotta be in this conversation for a song like "Tears of Joy" alone where he samples Bobby Seale talking revolutionary talk about self-defense and organization, Cee-lo sings a very meaningful chorus, and Ross comes on talking about "gettin so much money niggas can't keep up" just absolutely REFUSING to white meaningful lyrics even on a foundation that begs for them.
12. "except he's not exactly good at rapping" In response to Reply # 11
he does enough to get the job done, but he doesn't excel at rapping.
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18. "Nore isn't a great rapper either" In response to Reply # 17
again, he gets the job done but he's not great at rapping.
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21. "it wasn't reserved for you" In response to Reply # 20
but if by "appeal" we mean "desire to listen to" then I could see Ross coming up if we're talking about things other than rapping. I took the OP as meaning "hearing people rap well" but if that's not what it meant then I retract my statement.
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31. "is it me or is Black Moon severely underrated in general" In response to Reply # 13
Hardly any talk on Black Moon around these parts. I was thinking about this recently because all of their remixes are bananas and I love the shit our of enta da stage.
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32. "Here's possibly my favorite example of what I'm talking about." In response to Reply # 29
The first time I heard this song the flow and rhymes blew me away. But upon further inspection of the lyrics I was like - what the hell is he talking about ?!
Still an amazing performance and I listen to this song regularly.
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