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obsidianchrysalis
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"Anyone listen to DAMN. backwards? (AV Club swipe)"


  

          

The album flows a lot smoother played backwards. I haven't tried to make out the themes and how they fit relative to the original listing. But it's worth experiencing at least once.

http://www.avclub.com/kendrick-lamar-says-damn-was-meant-to-be-played-backwar-1798439375

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Kendrick Lamar says Damn was meant to be played backwards, and it rules that way

Clayton Purdom
Friday 2:15pmFiled to: GREAT JOB

2017 has already seen a bumper crop of great rap records, from Future, Jay-Z, Vince Staples, 2 Chainz, MIKE, Starlito & Don Trip, and many more, but when the dust settles, Kendrick Lamar’s Damn may outshine them all. Despite its stripped, back-to-basics aesthetic and spartan first single, it’s a deceptively rich song set, full of themes that slowly develop and a clear-cut narrative that unfolds into a shaggy-dog twist. When it first came out, people seemingly wanted more from Kendrick, and so began a conspiracy theory around a second album, an Easter Sunday release called Nation that would complement Damn’s Good Friday release. It never happened, because these sort of internet conspiracy theories pretty much never do.

But a lower-key theory—that the album functioned as an equally cohesive statement when played back-to-front—still lingered, and in a new interview with MTV News, Lamar confirmed it.

“It plays as a full story and even a better rhythm. It’s one of my favorite rhythms and tempos within the album. It’s something that we definitely premeditate while we’re in the studio. I don’t think the story necessarily changes, I think the feel changes. The initial vibe listening from the top all the way to the bottom is ... this aggression and this attitude. You know, ‘DNA,’ and exposing who I really am. You listen from the back end, and it’s almost the duality and the contrast of the intricate Kendrick Lamar. Both of these pieces are who I am.”

And guess what? It fucking rules that way! “Duckworth” bangs as an opener, “DNA” is a great late-album tempo pick-up, “Lust” leads into “Humble” beautifully, and the whole thing’s worth a damn re-listen. These sort of secret methods of listening to records are always fun, if totally spurious, ranging in quality from “Dark Side Of Oz” to the insane belief that you’re supposed to two copies of Kid A synced 17 seconds apart. (Get high first?) But an intentionally designed alternate version of listening to a record is pretty rare, and anyway, a good enough excuse to revisit the record on a Friday afternoon.

  

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Here's a Spotify playlist if you need one
Aug 27th 2017
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I didn't agree when people talked about it then, but cool
Aug 27th 2017
2
Disjointed musically or thematically?
Aug 27th 2017
3
The (normal) end of the album has the songs I don't like.
Aug 27th 2017
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Cool, I guess
Aug 29th 2017
5
and then people would say "you should play it backwards" too
Aug 31st 2017
7
Wait so you just reverse the order?..
Aug 31st 2017
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The songs seem to have a chronology that reveals itself in reverse....
Sep 02nd 2017
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obsidianchrysalis
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1. "Here's a Spotify playlist if you need one"
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https://open.spotify.com/user/1260825350/playlist/1YCSn7ha0gVKAGJ2WIVHR4

  

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Nodima
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2. "I didn't agree when people talked about it then, but cool"
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Sun Aug-27-17 06:08 PM by Nodima

  

          

Felt kind of disjointed to me; I prefer the normal way. But if Kendrick claims that's the case I'll take his word for it, obviously.

I always like to point out that The Roots' undun is a great album listened front to back and then back to front, though. Feels like the character dying and then having his life flash before his eyes.

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obsidianchrysalis
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3. "Disjointed musically or thematically?"
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It's subjective so I can't argue either way, but the way the tone of the music flows seems better to me. Although now that I'm about through with the album, I have to say that the way the subject matter is weaved in seems more random, like a normal album.

Good point about undun. That album does work well both ways.

  

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Sun Aug-27-17 09:35 PM

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4. "The (normal) end of the album has the songs I don't like."
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I'm thankful for audio files and CD's because if this was the cassette era, I wouldn't listen to that side.

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Ishwip
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5. "Cool, I guess"
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I feel like if an album is meant to be experienced backwards or some in other order from the official track list then it just should have been released that way in the first place.

Can't argue with Kendrick if being able to flip the track order and it still make sense was a conscious decision on his part, but now I'm stuck in my ways and don't want to hear "Duckworth" first haha.

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justin_scott
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7. "and then people would say "you should play it backwards" too"
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clearly, this was an album meant to be played either way.

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Key
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6. "Wait so you just reverse the order?.."
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I listened to that entire album in reverse and it made no sense.


http://keymusic.bandcamp.com/album/apophenia

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rorschach
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Sat Sep-02-17 11:53 PM

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8. "The songs seem to have a chronology that reveals itself in reverse...."
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where it's almost (keyword: almost) like a parallel version of Kendrick's life.

There are lyrics sprinkled throughout the album that support the idea. I don't think the reverse album idea works 100% of the time but it is occasionally noticeable.
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