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"Is Reasonable Doubt overrated with Murs..."


  

          

I agree that it is overrated but not in comparison to his other albums as most of Murs argument is.

https://youtu.be/p8XoQPp2-78

Thoughts?

Oh and LOL @ mentioning Change Clothes and showing a clip of Denzel and Latifah as proof it's dope.

Oh and LOL @ Jay introducing us to Neptunes, Timberland, etc...

  

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I feel like, if you were around and felt he was riding coattails at the ...
Jul 01st 2017
1
This.
Jul 02nd 2017
3
I'm sorry I watched that
Jul 01st 2017
2
lofl. how'd i miss this reply
Jul 17th 2017
61
This corndog cat?
Jul 03rd 2017
4
Yeah, I like Murs but I struggled to make it through that
Jul 03rd 2017
5
yes, it's overrated. didn't make a dent in 96.
Jul 03rd 2017
6
RE: yes, it's overrated. didn't make a dent in 96.
Jul 03rd 2017
8
RE: ^^^^Both of you are revising history.
Jul 04th 2017
12
it made a dent.. but didn't put the driver thru the windshield at all...
Jul 05th 2017
18
      no one thought it was written was a disappointment until 98 or 99
Jul 05th 2017
21
      that shit was an instant classic, just like illmatic & stillmatic
Jul 05th 2017
22
      IWW is a special album man...
Jul 05th 2017
23
      by 99 his core Illmatic fans grew to appreciate IWW more....
Jul 06th 2017
25
      Maybe in NYC IWW was a disappointment
Jul 05th 2017
24
           ^^^^^same here in the DMV^^^^^^
Jul 12th 2017
42
           IWW was not a disappointment in NYC
Jul 14th 2017
48
                so everyone was 100% cool with trackmasters Nas?
Jul 17th 2017
60
                     IWW had Primo, L.E.S., Havoc, Live Squad and Dr. Dre
Jul 24th 2017
69
                          I never understood the hate for that album
Jul 24th 2017
70
An even bigger lol at
Jul 03rd 2017
7
eyyyy
Jul 04th 2017
9
      RE: I've always said that 'Hola Hovito' is one of the album's highlights...
Jul 04th 2017
13
           that joint is a PR Day parade anthem
Jul 04th 2017
15
I played it yesterday. it's very close to perfect
Jul 04th 2017
10
Outside of Ain't No...I agree
Jul 04th 2017
11
      RE: Side two of the album is a lot slower and darker.
Jul 04th 2017
14
      This 100%
Jul 04th 2017
17
      WORD!!!!! Bring it On damn near brings a tear to my eye
Jul 05th 2017
19
           Bring It On and Regrets...
Jul 11th 2017
28
                that Hoagy Carmichael samp on Bring It On though
Jul 18th 2017
66
      Agree.
Jul 04th 2017
16
11 minutes of this shit? ugh
Jul 05th 2017
20
I copped the tape when it came out. It banged then. Still bangs.
Jul 11th 2017
26
His corny 2nd album has elevated Reasonable Doubt in hindsight
Jul 11th 2017
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RE: Which one of these is out of place:
Jul 11th 2017
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You tell me because they are all terrible
Jul 12th 2017
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      RE: Wrong.
Jul 12th 2017
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           So which is it?
Jul 12th 2017
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                RE: So you have that same moral standard for every rapper, right?
Jul 12th 2017
44
                     'Ask her what tribe she with: red dot or feather?' Are you serious?
Jul 13th 2017
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                          RE: Answer the question, dumbass.
Jul 13th 2017
46
                               I'm the dumbass not answering quests tho u never answered mine
Jul 14th 2017
47
                                    RE: So, you hold every Jay-Z song to that moral standard, right?
Jul 14th 2017
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                                         Stop embarrassing yourself
Jul 17th 2017
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                                              RE: So, you have the same moral standards for the content. . .
Jul 17th 2017
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                                                   See #47, I know it's a little more nuanced than your binary view of art
Jul 18th 2017
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                                                        RE: ^^^^Ned Flanders, hip hop fan.
Jul 18th 2017
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                                                             All good points, thanks.
Jul 19th 2017
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                                                                  RE: It just kills you to not have the last word, doesn't it?
Jul 22nd 2017
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RE: His corny 2nd album has elevated Reasonable Doubt in hindsight
Jul 11th 2017
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100% agreed.
Jul 11th 2017
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Lucky Me is not a good song and neither is Face Off
Jul 12th 2017
35
      Different strokes for different folks
Jul 12th 2017
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           Lol...
Jul 12th 2017
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           He is one of my favorite rappers so not sure what you're saying here
Jul 12th 2017
38
           I have Face Off on vinyl and would gladly give it to you to enjoy
Jul 12th 2017
39
                I own the album. I'm good.
Jul 12th 2017
40
Girls Girls Girls slander? cmon that shit hot.
Jul 14th 2017
50
Looooooooooove that beat.
Jul 14th 2017
51
Beat is great, but I didn't find it that funny. The lyrics were too lame
Jul 17th 2017
56
      Yeah that beat is the goods but it's terrible lyrically
Jul 17th 2017
58
I loved Sunshine. I thought it was one of the better "jiggy" songs
Jul 16th 2017
53
      I like Babyface on the hook. The shiny suit pushback was in effect
Jul 18th 2017
63
man
Jul 11th 2017
29
i'd say that first joint he did with 9th is a classic
Jul 11th 2017
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RE: i'd say that first joint he did with 9th is a classic
Jul 16th 2017
54
He got 4-5. Maybe even more!!
Jul 18th 2017
65
No it's his best album
Jul 14th 2017
49
The album is greatly overrated
Jul 17th 2017
59

Nodima
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1. "I feel like, if you were around and felt he was riding coattails at the ..."
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Most likely you still feel that way now. As I've grown older and seen more discussion around this album I've come to realize just how uncommon that opinion is.

But you don't really hear it from people in my age group, a decade or so younger who came to Jay-Z first through MTV music videos, and then their first full album from him was likely The Blueprint or Black Album, and then you likely skipped his jiggy era completely to hear Reasonable Doubt because by that point 1996 in general had been so lionized you had to go all the way back and move forward from there.

For most people I know my age, it's practically a flip of the coin whether Blueprint or Reasonable Doubt is better with Black Album a not-so-dark horse third candidate. I think it'd be just about a perfect album without "Ain't No", though that song now sounds so dated its almost notalgically great, but I was likely partially conditioned to feel that way by the times in which it came into my life.

I think it's kind of great that Reasonable Doubt is lowkey one of the more divisive "classics" in the hip-hop canon, though.


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3. "This."
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>For most people I know my age, it's practically a flip of the
>coin whether Blueprint or Reasonable Doubt is better with
>Black Album a not-so-dark horse third candidate.

1. Blueprint
2. Reasonable Doubt
3. Black Album

I used to put BA above RD for a few years after BA dropped but RD is just too consistent in tone and sound.

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61. "lofl. how'd i miss this reply"
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4. "This corndog cat?"
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Murs is one of the most overrated MC's ever, deleted the few joints I had by him years ago..."Reasonable Doubt" is a masterpiece...

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5. "Yeah, I like Murs but I struggled to make it through that"
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The first five minutes was listing a bunch of irrelevant shit to determine whether it was overrated or not. Once I got to "let's compare this to other albums of the era," I was done.

Only time he was close to having a point was the "flow is dated" thing, but even then, I disagree.

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6. "yes, it's overrated. didn't make a dent in 96. "
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8. "RE: yes, it's overrated. didn't make a dent in 96. "
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it's true.

most cats i knew were like "who's this cat with b.i.g. and az in his video?"

i felt the same although, my main question was why does this dude have those dots (umlauts) in his name?

he got alotta play on rap city and yo! with the o.g. dead presidents vid then with ain't no nigga but '96 was such an ill year for hip-hop than he got lost in the mix...the nutty professor placement is pretty much what saved his career. dude was slated for slept-on "what coulda been" status and going back to hustling if that shit didn't blow up imo.

in retrospect, it's a great album (not classic imo but it's close) and I slept hard but shit most ppl did cause of all the iller and more impactful east coast shit that dropped that year.

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12. "RE: ^^^^Both of you are revising history."
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18. "it made a dent.. but didn't put the driver thru the windshield at all..."
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....like illadelph half life or stakes is high or even it was written (which was a disappointment)

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21. "no one thought it was written was a disappointment until 98 or 99"
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22. "that shit was an instant classic, just like illmatic & stillmatic"
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23. "IWW is a special album man..."
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Absolutely love that shit

  

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25. "by 99 his core Illmatic fans grew to appreciate IWW more...."
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....because who knew how awful his albums would get



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24. "Maybe in NYC IWW was a disappointment "
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We loved it in Atlanta. The rhyming on that album was phenomenal

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We cranked that jount.
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48. "IWW was not a disappointment in NYC"
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To say otherwise is just not true. That album is dope.

  

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...heads got used to it and accepted it ..but to say there was no disappointment here isn't really how it went down






  

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69. "IWW had Primo, L.E.S., Havoc, Live Squad and Dr. Dre"
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Trackmasters had the singles but they were pretty dope. That album remains one of the best examples of hip-hop albums that have something for everybody. The next two albums, especially Nastradamus, are where things went wrong, but Nastradamus is pretty much all L.E.S. and Dame Grease.

  

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70. "I never understood the hate for that album"
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Maybe...maybe the "heads" wanted a replication of Illmatic as far as production but that album was mostly loved by everyone and remains his best selling album.

I really don't see the "glossy" production either. Maybe the singles but those were dope. Most of the album is darker.

  

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Mentioning jigga that nigga, hola hovito and renegade for proof that the blueprint is dope. He just skipped all over the meat of the album. Murs needs to stop doing these. It's not a good look for him.

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i got a soft spot for hola hovito. lol

beat is funky!

he is way off on all the others tho

  

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13. "RE: I've always said that 'Hola Hovito' is one of the album's highlights..."
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Strictly on the strength of the beat.


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10. "I played it yesterday. it's very close to perfect"
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11. "Outside of Ain't No...I agree"
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And I don't dislike Aint No but it doesn't really fit stylistically.

And then a few of the tracks towards the end, Friend Or Foe, Coming of Age and Cashmere Thoughts...while all good...sequences together makes the album appear to have a bit of a dip in quality starting from Aint No.

Ain't No needed to be follow d by a few of the bangers in the beginning to bring it back up to 100.

  

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14. "RE: Side two of the album is a lot slower and darker."
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But that run from 'Friend or Foe' through 'Regrets' is what always made the album so good for me. Those beats, especially considering they're essentially just loops, are so lush and melodic.


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17. "This 100%"
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>Those beats, especially
>considering they're essentially just loops, are so lush and
>melodic.

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19. "WORD!!!!! Bring it On damn near brings a tear to my eye"
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28. "Bring It On and Regrets... "
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I don't want to say save the second half because I like the whole album but those two to me are on the same level as the first half of the album whereas I believe 9-12 is a slight dip.

  

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66. "that Hoagy Carmichael samp on Bring It On though"
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16. "Agree."
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>And I don't dislike Aint No but it doesn't really fit
>stylistically.
>
>And then a few of the tracks towards the end, Friend Or Foe,
>Coming of Age and Cashmere Thoughts...while all
>good...sequences together makes the album appear to have a bit
>of a dip in quality starting from Aint No.
>
>Ain't No needed to be follow d by a few of the bangers in the
>beginning to bring it back up to 100.
>

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20. "11 minutes of this shit? ugh"
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26. "I copped the tape when it came out. It banged then. Still bangs."
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Banged it all through college from 97 on while playing Spades, PlayStation, smoking, and chilling.

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27. "His corny 2nd album has elevated Reasonable Doubt in hindsight"
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It did not have much impact at the time. The album is solid but that Foxy single is laughably bad, but not nearly as bad as Sunshine or I know what girls like or girls, girls, girls. His songs with women or about male-female relations are definitely a weak spot in his catalogue.

  

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30. "RE: Which one of these is out of place:"
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>as bad
>as Sunshine or I know what girls like or girls, girls, girls.
>

o_O


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34. "You tell me because they are all terrible"
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41. "RE: Wrong."
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43. "So which is it?"
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Is it the parade of crude stereotypes that is girls, girls, girls?

  

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44. "RE: So you have that same moral standard for every rapper, right?"
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Dumbass.


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45. "'Ask her what tribe she with: red dot or feather?' Are you serious?"
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'excuse me, Ms. Fufu'...You're really bumping this song and rapping along to the lyrics? Are you over the age of 15?

  

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46. "RE: Answer the question, dumbass."
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47. "I'm the dumbass not answering quests tho u never answered mine"
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I do not have a hard time avoiding songs like these not as a result of applying a rigid moral standard, but from just not wanting to hear bad songs. Girls, Girls, Girls is just a continuous run of doltish, offensive stereotypes. The song is attempting to be cheeky, but since the lyrics are so dull, it comes off as offensive and unfunny. Great rapper, terrible song. I didn't know there were still people who rode hard for this song.

  

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52. "RE: So, you hold every Jay-Z song to that moral standard, right?"
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You wouldn't just be singling out that one song to simply go against the consensus and draw attention to yourself now, would you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyIMKiWpdU4

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55. "Stop embarrassing yourself"
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I already explained why I don't like it. You keep on searching for alternative explanations, and it really isn't that complicated. Grow up, people like different stuff for different reasons. It's going to be alright.

  

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57. "RE: So, you have the same moral standards for the content. . ."
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. . .of all the music you listen to, right?


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62. "See #47, I know it's a little more nuanced than your binary view of art"
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but reflect on it, maybe you'll move beyond such a formulaic perspective. Or not. You obviously really like, "Girls, Girls, Girls," and that may could be a sign of underdevelopment. In that case, I apologize for not being more empathetic. Onward and upward, friend.

  

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64. "RE: ^^^^Ned Flanders, hip hop fan."
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Nice try on trying to take your own little "high road" while still trying to call me immature. Good for you.

I never even said I was a fan of the song in question.

Dumb ass.


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67. "All good points, thanks."
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68. "RE: It just kills you to not have the last word, doesn't it?"
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31. "RE: His corny 2nd album has elevated Reasonable Doubt in hindsight"
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A Million and One Questions/Rhyme No More
Imaginary Players
Streets Is Watching
Friend or Foe 98
Lucky Me
Who You With
Real N
Rap Game/Crack Game
Where I'm From
You Must Love Me

LOL @ corny

Sure...IKWGL is corny. Sunshine is corny...

Fuck it...I like City Is Mine

Face Off is whatever.

  

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32. "100% agreed."
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>A Million and One Questions/Rhyme No More
>Imaginary Players
>Streets Is Watching
>Friend or Foe 98
>Lucky Me
>Who You With
>Real N
>Rap Game/Crack Game
>Where I'm From
>You Must Love Me
>
>LOL @ corny
>
>Sure...IKWGL is corny. Sunshine is corny...
>
>Fuck it...I like City Is Mine
>
>Face Off is whatever.

Yep. Exactly. City of Mine is dope for what it is, for sure.

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35. "Lucky Me is not a good song and neither is Face Off"
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Neither is rap game/crack game, 2 verses of explicitly tying rap to selling crack...'let them test the produce, give 'em a promo show"...come on. I would never waste my time listening to Real N or City is Mine...both tired in my opinion. Who you wit, 'I sink this ball in your hole, I'm Tiger Woods!"...stop. There are four songs that I listen to on that album. It was weak when it dropped and it's still weak. Obviously you appreciate those works of art.


  

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36. "Different strokes for different folks"
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I rock all the songs you just dissed

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37. "Lol..."
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Dude is salty.

I'm sure I could nitpick corny lines from his favorite rappers as well.

  

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38. "He is one of my favorite rappers so not sure what you're saying here"
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I don't like those songs and presented reasons why. You like the premise of rap game/crack game, cool, the metaphorical imagery of Tiger sinking a putt is clever and speaks to you, rock on.

We only have so much time so when choosing which music to listen to, those songs are not making the cut for me. Four songs that I return to out of 15 translates to a weak album in my opinion. Every rapper/artist has them. You feel differently; you can own it without calling me salty.

  

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39. "I have Face Off on vinyl and would gladly give it to you to enjoy"
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40. "I own the album. I'm good."
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50. "Girls Girls Girls slander? cmon that shit hot."
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classic beat and a funny song

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51. "Looooooooooove that beat."
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56. "Beat is great, but I didn't find it that funny. The lyrics were too lame"
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but the beat was always great...that made it worse.

  

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58. "Yeah that beat is the goods but it's terrible lyrically"
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it's a frustrating juxtaposition.

  

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53. "I loved Sunshine. I thought it was one of the better "jiggy" songs"
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of the day. I remember LOL'ing @ Foxy agreeing to hit the block for him if he went broke.

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63. "I like Babyface on the hook. The shiny suit pushback was in effect"
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by late 1997, so timing-wise, the single and video (that rubik's cube wall) did not work out in hi favor. Fortunately, he didn't hit the dustbin after this release.

  

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29. "man"
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he is dead wrong and corny while doing it

bring back the company man lol

is Murs always this corny or is this just his hosting style?

only track I'd take off is with the consensus, "Ain't No" would get cut.

Now I'm going to be petty and google how many classics Murs has.

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33. "i'd say that first joint he did with 9th is a classic"
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54. "RE: i'd say that first joint he did with 9th is a classic"
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the one with "Vicki Vale"? Fornever was pretty cool

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65. "He got 4-5. Maybe even more!! "
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49. "No it's his best album"
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so as his popularity has risen it is elevated.

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59. "The album is greatly overrated"
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But, I don't know if it is for the reasons Murs mentioned?

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