2. "Man...Don't go that far back lol" In response to Reply # 1 Sat Apr-29-17 05:14 AM by Anonymous
Guess I should've given some guidelines...
1986+
2006 The Roots - Game Theory Dilla - Donuts Clipse - Hell Hath No Fury Lupe Fiasco - Food & Liquor Cunninlynguists - A Piece of Strange Ghostface - Fishscale
You didn't think those were strong albums? There's a few others that were noteable but not necessarily great. But man; those 6 I think are some of the best of that decade.
Forgot GT came out in 2006. That's at least a near classic, and the rest you mentioned are all great albums. I'll have to look at the 00's a little more, cause there's no way any year between '86-'2000 would be on my personal worst year list.
i dont be following release dates like I once did, but 97 is the year it all went downhill from what I recall. No Limit & Bad Boy ruined everything that year
7. "2010 had My Dark Beautiful Fantasy" In response to Reply # 0 Sat Apr-29-17 08:11 PM by obsidianchrysalis
and How I Got Over, but not much else that I ever checked out. If I'm missing something please let me know, but I went looking over the collection of albums Google spit out when the query '2010 hip-hop albums' was entered and it was threadbare outside of those two albums.
As much as I don't like Bad Boy and a lot of east coast hip-hop at that time, '97 just cant't be worse than many years in the 2000's. Just can't be.
9. "has to be in the early 2000's I'd say" In response to Reply # 0
because that was the first time I remember the crap outnumbering the quality stuff. Even now I think the lows are lower, but there's a lot more good stuff being released than there was then.
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11. "For those saying 97..." In response to Reply # 0
Did you really look at the albums that dropped?
I FULLY agree that 97 was the turning point into wackness...but not only were there great albums, some of the albums that started the commercialism like Life After Death are undeniable classics. There's no way 97 is worse than 99 let alone a year like 2003.
Jewelz One Day It'll All Make Sense Uptown Saturday Night The War Report Life After Death Wu-Tang Forever Ghetto Millionaire Soul In The Hole Soundtrack That's Them The Untouchable In My Lifetime Vol 1 When Disaster Strikes Funcrusher Plus Soul Assassins Chapter One
12. "I'd add Back in Business and The 18th Letter to that list as well" In response to Reply # 11
lots of really great albums that year.
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14. "DAMN Carnival was 97! Yeah that's on there too" In response to Reply # 13
I think it's my favorite Fugees project, and by a wide margin.
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37. "RE: For those saying 97..." In response to Reply # 11
>Did you really look at the albums that dropped? > >I FULLY agree that 97 was the turning point into >wackness...but not only were there great albums, some of the >albums that started the commercialism like Life After Death >are undeniable classics. There's no way 97 is worse than 99 >let alone a year like 2003. > >Jewelz >One Day It'll All Make Sense >Uptown Saturday Night >The War Report >Life After Death >Wu-Tang Forever >Ghetto Millionaire >Soul In The Hole Soundtrack >That's Them >The Untouchable >In My Lifetime Vol 1 >When Disaster Strikes >Funcrusher Plus >Soul Assassins Chapter One > >There was some greatness in 97
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Suga Free - Street Gospel Busta Rhymes - When Disaster Strikes Organized Konfusion - The Equinox Dr. Octagon
1997 was a perfectly fine middle of the road year for hip-hop.
2003 was very weak. Can be debated though, Trap Muzik is dope but I could honestly do without it.
2008 was slow outside of The Renassiance and Never Better imo.
2011 had Black Up! but not much came out that is essential imo.
2014 was similar but had RTJ2 which I still don't love and Prhyme which I thought was dope but too short with too many guests and Diamond District which I thought XO really ruined.
I could be missing releases also. But there were some years when I look back that I can't even come up with 5 or 10 great releases. There will be albums I liked and think are good but nothing essential.
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Aquemini Moment of Truth Soul Survivor Black Star First Family 4 Life Capital Punishment Still Standing Miseducation of Lauryn Hill 40 Dayz and 40 Nightz Heavy Mental
34. "When you say essential I take that as I must have it" In response to Reply # 32
>Aquemini >Moment of Truth >Soul Survivor >Black Star >First Family 4 Life >Capital Punishment >Still Standing >Miseducation of Lauryn Hill >40 Dayz and 40 Nightz >Heavy Mental
Most of those aren't must haves for me. The two I mentioned earlier and I'd take still standing and soul survivor. The others are dope but they aren't essential to me.
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25. "Other 2003 releases:" In response to Reply # 22
The Listening Vaudeville Villain Shadows of the Sun The End of the Beginning Southernunderground Bazooka Tooth
Plus the other underground shit I like: Rip the Jacker Visions of Gandhi Revolutionary Vol. 2 Balance 8 Million Stories Sin-A-Matic Music, Magic, Myth Taste the Secret Spirit In Stone Full Circkle Seven's Travels ...Or Stay Tuned Megadef Hope Mechanical Royalty Love & Hate Ravipops Kinkinasti Deep Water Slang V 2.0 The Anti-Album Capture of Sound Situational Ethics
Several great albums came out that year but as an overall body of work, that and 2001 are my least favorite. I really don't like the concept of hip-hop from 1998-2002 in general despite a lot of classic work coming out of that period. Most of my favorite stuff was building on things we already knew worked, and most of the innovation in that period was nauseating outside the Soulquarian and Rocafella camps.
38. "that said, 2016 currently has by far the weakest top 10." In response to Reply # 36
Granted I was out of the review game for the past three years so I listened to far less stuff from that year and it's more similar to an early 90s or late 80s year in that regard, but my top three feels pretty unphaseable (untitled. unmastered., JEFFREY, Coloring Book) and those albums would've struggled to crack top ten in several other years, and made top three in almost none of them.
But, my impression of the past few years anyway, is that everything has struggled really hard to be outright bad, it's just not so often you get stuff that seems fully fleshed out or amazing anymore. Too much #content and too many ways to put things out.
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