"When flippin the same break..." Sat Apr-22-17 02:52 PM by _Torchbaras
Inspired by the post on the new Evidence joint, and sein cats, including myself, not fully embracing the track cause the sample source was flipped before (and maybe better!?) by someone else. What joints are out there that shared the same source, but were just as dope as one another if any? Im curious to see if one dope flip cancels out every attempt following, and why... State your opinion fam.
Never heard the 9th one. Had the Term tape with him rippin the Dilla one, which was/is dope as hell... My opinion on here it is a tie, I prefer the smack of 9th drums and he had some dope passages from the source, but technically Dilla put the most work in. Great example...
10. "9th's name isn't Dilla" In response to Reply # 2
and especially around that time nobody was riding against him. Personally that beat gets on my nerves.
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18. "The reason I like Dilla's better is because it feels more organic" In response to Reply # 2
And it's a bit ironic saying that considering the strange nature of the loop. But personally, I feel like the Spacek beat is genius whereas 9th simply made yet another soul chop on those drums he started to borderline rely on at that phase in his career.
I dunno, it may sound like I'm coming across as snobby here, but Dilla's flip just feels better to me and I don't think it's necessarily to do with his name having more clout here.
The Dilla one was def. dope, but more uptempo than the No ID joint. I love the way the latter has the quick back n forth chord switches and the slo bounce tho, damn BANGIN flip!
4. "Pete Rock vs. D.I.T.C. on The Skull Snaps break in the mid 90's" In response to Reply # 0 Sat Apr-22-17 06:06 PM by fatboybrandon
I don't think one flip cancels another out in this case, both parties made some groundbreaking shit around the same time with those infamous It's A New Day drums.
InI - Keep On, Heavy D - It's A New Day prod. by Pete Rock Big L - Put It On, Showbiz & A.G. - Runaway Slave, Diamond D -Sally prod. by D.I.T.C.
Marley Marl vs. Everybody on Sly Stone's Sing A Simple Song break (and many other breaks). I think Marley won this competition with Mama Said Knock You Out which is probably the hottest flip of those drums I've heard to this day.
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16. "Don't sleep on "Get The F*ck Outta Dodge" by PE" In response to Reply # 4
>Marley Marl vs. Everybody on Sly Stone's Sing A Simple Song >break (and many other breaks). I think Marley won this >competition with Mama Said Knock You Out which is probably the >hottest flip of those drums I've heard to this day. > >
38. "I'm pretty sure people sample It's My Turn more than the OG sample" In response to Reply # 20
However Paul C sampled and eq'd those drums was perfect.
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9. "I was kinda shittin on my homeboy..." In response to Reply # 0
...Oddisee when he used the sample Cru used years earlier, but when he name checked them in the track, it showed his pedigree and class...paying homage is where it's at....for comparison...
24. "Also, Sit Em Back Slow (AZ)..." In response to Reply # 0
KILLED off all other use of Mary Jane to me. Like, I dont ever need to hear that joint flipped again after that. Ridic how you could take somethin as laid back as that and make it THAT BANGIN SMH, actually could be a separate post.
25. "Diana in the Autumn Wind - Madlib & Dilla" In response to Reply # 0
2 parts of the same song, so not sure it counts per se. But that comes to mind
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then I heard this beast of an unreleased (to my knowledge) Dilla joint: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2fs91u42AE ...which is the *complete* opposite in terms of feel: urgent. hypnotic. unrelenting. and the kick drum pattern is ...weird. one of my fav Dilla joints ever.
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45. "Juju From The Beatnuts Used It First For Rawcotiks "Magic Chef"" In response to Reply # 30
That's when I first heard the sample back in '97 but I swear it was also used on Kool Keith's Dr. Octagon album but I haven't heard that album in years.
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33. "Ev track was strong enough that i'm past it.. been on repeat now.." In response to Reply # 0
...what I posted was a first reaction ...that said, that reaction was real and usually doesn't equate to me loving the song later ...Remember when Busta jacked the Diamond "went for mine" track? That still bothers me for some reason..
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