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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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"Poll question: Livin' Proof vs Center Of Attention"


  

          

Yeah I'm going there. Been speaking about Pete's status as a producer and how the InI album (along with Deda's) may have helped his status a little during the 90s. I even heard some people say Center of Attention was Pete's version of Livin' Proof (Premier). Which album does The Lesson prefer? Let us know and tell us why.

p.s. I fucks with Lil' Dap heavy

Poll result (23 votes)
Group Home (11 votes)Vote
InI (12 votes)Vote

  

  

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Livin Proof reaches higher highs, but Center of Attention is better
Dec 07th 2016
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^my answer, almost verbatim, down to specific points
Dec 08th 2016
21
RE: In this comparison, Livin' Proof is like a stick figure pencil sketc...
Dec 07th 2016
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you're doing too much here, but I'm sure you know this already
Dec 07th 2016
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Center Of Attention
Dec 07th 2016
3
I need to find this Center of Attention to develop a more fully
Dec 07th 2016
4
Damn, wish I could be you right now.
Dec 07th 2016
7
WORD!
Dec 08th 2016
18
fam, go to your room....
Dec 07th 2016
8
By tomorrow morning, I'm hoping to have plyed this a few...
Dec 08th 2016
19
GAWD DAYUM!
Dec 09th 2016
22
You always wanna be in the spotlight...
Dec 07th 2016
5
The Real Neh Neh Neh..Neh Neh Ness.....
Dec 07th 2016
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Egg-Zack-Lee
Dec 08th 2016
12
IMO Proof. & Pete's Status was cemented for before INI & Deda
Dec 07th 2016
10
Group Home's "Livin' Proof" Gets My Vote
Dec 08th 2016
11
I honestly can't choose
Dec 08th 2016
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Strictly instrumentals, I'd go w/ LP
Dec 08th 2016
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Having this poll on OKP makes it a bit unfair. The INI album is way
Dec 08th 2016
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RE: Having this poll on OKP makes it a bit unfair. The INI album is way...
Dec 08th 2016
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      What's so hard to comprehend? OKP leans towards the smooth feelgood
Dec 08th 2016
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Livin' Proof has the stronger singles, and benefits from being shorter
Dec 08th 2016
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PCProductions
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1. "Livin Proof reaches higher highs, but Center of Attention is better"
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There is no Supa Star on Center of Attention, but I think Pete Rock crafted a really nice album that feels good through the whole thing. I think Livin Proof is marred by those non-Primo produced songs as well as a worse set of rappers. Center of Attention is smooth and effortless, although Rob-O can really go on and on about nothing like he does on Grown Man Sport. Grap Luva does a much, much better job subbing in behind the boards than Guru/Jaz O.

I will say that maybe pound for pound Primo's top 3 beats on Livin Proof outdo Pete's on Center of Attention, but Pete had a longer album that obviously carried that group of very forgettable emcees.

  

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21. "^my answer, almost verbatim, down to specific points"
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>There is no Supa Star on Center of Attention, but I think
>Pete Rock crafted a really nice album that feels good through
>the whole thing. I think Livin Proof is marred by those
>non-Primo produced songs as well as a worse set of rappers.
>Center of Attention is smooth and effortless, although Rob-O
>can really go on and on about nothing like he does on Grown
>Man Sport. Grap Luva does a much, much better job subbing in
>behind the boards than Guru/Jaz O.
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>I will say that maybe pound for pound Primo's top 3 beats on
>Livin Proof outdo Pete's on Center of Attention, but Pete had
>a longer album that obviously carried that group of very
>forgettable emcees.


"Center of Attention" is consistently good to great front to back, but "Livin' Proof" has some of my favorite all time beats, period!

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2. "RE: In this comparison, Livin' Proof is like a stick figure pencil sketc..."
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. . .and Center of Attention is Van Gogh's Starry Night.


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9. "you're doing too much here, but I'm sure you know this already"
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3. "Center Of Attention"
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I just simply prefer Pete Rock over Primo...they are without question 1 and 2.

On top of that, there are many instances in which I would give Primo to W over Pete, but in this situation, iNi are better lyrically than Group Home.

I too fucks with Lil Dap and feel Nutcracker is so bad that he brings down people's opinions of him.

  

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4. "I need to find this Center of Attention to develop a more fully"
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formed opinion. Never heard it.

Livin Proof was the shit though.

Henceforth, I shall abstain until I can listen to the INI jawn.

  

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7. "Damn, wish I could be you right now."
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Center Of Attention is bad ass. Even just streaming a playlist off YouTube should give you an idea of what you're dealing with. Primetime Pete Rock beats and some nice, laid back raps. It's absolutely ridiculous that this didn't see the light of day in 95/96. Definitely more lush than Livin' Proof, which is why I prefer it.

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18. "WORD!"
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I'm gonna cop a squat and rock to it while I'm watching some football tonight.

  

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8. "fam, go to your room...."
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put on some good ass headphones and don't come out until you listen to this in it's entirety:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQ0G7o0AEL8

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19. "By tomorrow morning, I'm hoping to have plyed this a few..."
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times.

Crazy but I never think about going to YouTube to listen to stuff I haven't heard before. I go there strictly for videos. LMAO

Thanks for the laink!

  

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22. "GAWD DAYUM!"
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Some sit and chill with a nice banana cognac kinda music. I'm on my second go round with it and believe it is great and definitely some great Pete Rock production.

However, Livin Proof is still the lick. "Supastar" was once the music one would hear when they called my beeper.

Damn right I like the life I live!

  

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5. "You always wanna be in the spotlight..."
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center of attention, I'd also like to mention...
SO good. That's my choice.

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6. "The Real Neh Neh Neh..Neh Neh Ness....."
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12. "Egg-Zack-Lee"
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I had that song on repeat for hours on end when I had that cd in the car, I just couldn't get it out of my head to want to hear anything else when it first came on, I'm glad Premier put it near the end.

I love this song so much I had to cop the "Suspended In Time" 12" to double up on "The Realness" and the instrumental, there was a Dj Cash Money mixtape where he does a real nice juggle with this song which only got me imitating his juggle and hear it in my head everytime I hear the song now.


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10. "IMO Proof. & Pete's Status was cemented for before INI & Deda"
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11. "Group Home's "Livin' Proof" Gets My Vote"
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Thu Dec-08-16 04:30 AM by Dj Joey Joe

  

          

As much as I like "Center Of Attention" it's not better than Group Home's album, yeah yeah I know the lyrics isn't on the same level as Grap Luva, Rob O., or Pete Rock's lyrics but the problem I have with "Center Of Attention" is the fact it took too long for me to hear it in full and the fact it's missing the Pete Rock interludes we expect from any album produced by him, and it's missing a few songs and then they threw on two songs that wasn't even on the original but either way I can't listen to it over and over like I can "Livn' Proof".

Premier made sure that "Livin' Proof" had some of the dopest beats he's ever given to any artist even Guru and it's a well rounded album not all of it's straight ahead boom bap, some beats are more laid back than others and even the Guru produced track & the Jaz-O track fit in there perfectly but still brought a different vibe to the album.


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13. "I honestly can't choose"
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They both work for totally different reasons, and both are amazing listens from front to back when they probably shouldn't be considering the talent gap between producer and rapper on each. Pete and Primo had already descended to godhood by the time these came out, so I'll just leave it at that.

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14. "Strictly instrumentals, I'd go w/ LP"
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15. "Having this poll on OKP makes it a bit unfair. The INI album is way "
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closer to the sounds & aesthetic that brought us to this site in the first place.

I don't think this poll is close anywhere else.

  

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16. "RE: Having this poll on OKP makes it a bit unfair. The INI album is way..."
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>closer to the sounds & aesthetic that brought us to this site
>in the first place.
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>I don't think this poll is close anywhere else.

Huh?

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17. "What's so hard to comprehend? OKP leans towards the smooth feelgood "
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>>closer to the sounds & aesthetic that brought us to this
>site
>>in the first place.
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>>I don't think this poll is close anywhere else.
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>Huh?

aesthetic, regardless of whether the MCs have any distinctive qualities or not. I can't argue that Premier's production was really BETTER than Pete's, but Group Home had way more of an NYC 1995/1996 feel than InI. You gotta remember, Wu-Tang & BootCamp Clik were red hot back then.

I saw InI perform pretty up close and personal in 1996, people just weren't moved by what they were doing. The only part that seemed to get people hyped was when Pete came out for "Fakin Jax".

  

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20. "Livin' Proof has the stronger singles, and benefits from being shorter"
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Plus that stretch on the B-Side from Baby Pa to Tha Realness is immaculate, if only from a production standpoint. And for all the flack Group Home gets for their lyrical deficiencies, Malachi and Dap definitely have more distinct voices than their InI counterparts. Rob O and Grap have very similar tones and deliveries, and Ras is fairly monotone as well. Featuring Meccalicious on more songs on COA would've been a good look.

Ultimately, the highs are just higher on Livin' Proof.

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