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Jon
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"What's the word on sampling these days?"


          

When you intend to give shit away for free, or a donation or just don't expect to sell big numbers, does anybody here still worry about sample clearance?

  

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I don't think people care anymore.
Dec 09th 2016
1
generally no, but technically it's a crapshoot
Dec 09th 2016
2
^^^^^^^^^^
Dec 10th 2016
3
You Can Sample As Much As You Want
Dec 11th 2016
4
RE: What's the word on sampling these days?
Dec 14th 2016
5
RE: What's the word on sampling these days?
Dec 14th 2016
6
Weird
Dec 14th 2016
7
sample that shit
Dec 15th 2016
8

Shogun
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Fri Dec-09-16 10:44 AM

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1. "I don't think people care anymore."
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Most (mainstream) Hip-Hop is sample free these days, and if you recall, the cats who were getting sued were the people with big hit records.

I don't think they go after mixtape/bedroom MC's, because they're small fish.

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Garhart Poppwell
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Fri Dec-09-16 10:22 PM

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2. "generally no, but technically it's a crapshoot"
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The likelihood of someone coming after you is very slim unless you're making a lot of noise. BUT people do get C/D notices for free albums and whatnot, and some get sued if the copyright owners think making an example of the artist is a smart move.

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howardlloyd
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Sat Dec-10-16 09:31 AM

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3. "^^^^^^^^^^"
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http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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Dj Joey Joe
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4. "You Can Sample As Much As You Want"
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Sun Dec-11-16 07:12 PM by Dj Joey Joe

  

          

It's not about clearing a sample it's about how much you made from a song to get sued for it, don't expect a pop artist to buy a beat from you unless it's a rare sample that's not owned by the big record labels and it's not the core of your beat.

If it's the core of your beat and doesn't have the same feel without the sample in it then it probably best to just stick to underground or indie label artists to sell your production to.

Don't ever stop sampling, just learn to clean it up, use sounds more than samples, the more you chop up a sample, the unrecognizable it becomes, oh yeah don't use the same ol' sample every rap artists has used since the 90's; also stay away from artists who don't like clearing their songs such as Steely Dan, anything on the Westbound Records label as long as it's done in advance with pay, nothing by The Turtles (or under the name The Crossfires or The Rhythm Butchers), Bob James will clear a sample as long as it's a positive song and has minimum curses.

But yeah you can sample all day on an indie level like Madlib, Pete Rock, etc.


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kosyne
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Wed Dec-14-16 11:12 AM

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5. "RE: What's the word on sampling these days?"
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Wed Dec-14-16 11:13 AM by kosyne

  

          

seen a couple joints get swapped on digitally on the Mello Music catalog and others. So theres definitely a threshold of how much noise you can make on the radar before you're a problem.

Kendrick Lamar Chapter Six (king 'hey' sample - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itl3BgEUNW0)
before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSJRLhSqQI8
after: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWT4hetlNI

Rapper Big Pooh x Nottz Memory(minnie ripperton sample - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z7MaFE-uRQ)
before: https://soundcloud.com/maven-7/rapper-big-pooh-nottz-memory
after: https://rapperbigpooh360.bandcamp.com/track/memory-feat-novej

Skyzoo x Apollo Brown - Flyest Essence (smokey robinson much better off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGTo9I0P6hU)
before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiRLgMKERSs
after: https://apollobrown360.bandcamp.com/track/the-flyest-essence


this has been another episode of snitch 101 :/

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6. "RE: What's the word on sampling these days?"
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>Skyzoo x Apollo Brown - Flyest Essence (smokey robinson much
>better off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGTo9I0P6hU)
>before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiRLgMKERSs
>after:
>https://apollobrown360.bandcamp.com/track/the-flyest-essence



i like this new version way better!!!




  

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Wed Dec-14-16 11:42 PM

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7. "Weird"
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>seen a couple joints get swapped on digitally on the Mello
>Music catalog and others. So theres definitely a threshold of
>how much noise you can make on the radar before you're a
>problem.
>
>Kendrick Lamar Chapter Six (king 'hey' sample -
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itl3BgEUNW0)
>before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSJRLhSqQI8
>after: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWT4hetlNI
>
>Rapper Big Pooh x Nottz Memory(minnie ripperton sample -
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z7MaFE-uRQ)
>before:
>https://soundcloud.com/maven-7/rapper-big-pooh-nottz-memory
>after:
>https://rapperbigpooh360.bandcamp.com/track/memory-feat-novej
>
>Skyzoo x Apollo Brown - Flyest Essence (smokey robinson much
>better off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGTo9I0P6hU)
>before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiRLgMKERSs
>after:
>https://apollobrown360.bandcamp.com/track/the-flyest-essence
>
>
>this has been another episode of snitch 101 :/


For all of these I'm so used to the cd/original download. Strange to me that someone tonight might stumble on any of these for the first time and that current version will be the REAL version to them.


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legsdiamond
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Thu Dec-15-16 09:49 AM

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8. "sample that shit"
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that's HIP HOP.

fuck that, I say sample and hope you get lucky enough to get sued because that means the song more than likely is a hit.

try to dig for some rare shit (hip hop 101) but ionno, I remember a big time producer telling us he was ALWAYS getting sued and he ain't give a shit at all because by the time it went to court he already made big bank and then settled for a fraction.

if it's blatant tho.. you prolly giving it all up so dig for that good shit.

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