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Steve O Tron v2
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"what.cd dead?"
Thu Nov-17-16 04:52 PM by Steve O Tron v2

          

https://twitter.com/whatcd

http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/17/13669832/what-cd-music-torrent-website-shut-down

Sounds like they hit the self-destruct button for data.

2016 is terrible.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
this is worse than when the Library of Alexandria burned down
Nov 17th 2016
1
RE: what.cd dead?
Nov 17th 2016
2
Agreed about piracy
Nov 17th 2016
4
lost how?
Nov 18th 2016
46
      Bootleg releases aren't on those media
Nov 24th 2016
83
Delete yo self!
Nov 17th 2016
5
my favorite rapper told me if i ain't got no paper....
Nov 17th 2016
7
You definitely voted for Trump
Nov 17th 2016
8
only idiots believe
Nov 18th 2016
40
      yep. you definitely voted for trump
Nov 18th 2016
49
           i think you're out of your weight class
Nov 18th 2016
53
all that is fine & good...but what about De La's catalog?
Nov 18th 2016
11
if de la wanted their shit up for free
Nov 18th 2016
41
exactly.
Nov 18th 2016
13
Open Letter to all Fuckybirds
Nov 18th 2016
19
an artist named Flashbulb had the most leeched album for years on what
Nov 18th 2016
21
These idiots have no fucking idea what was just lost
Nov 18th 2016
22
      youre the idiot
Nov 18th 2016
44
           I'll be entitled, put my crates against yours anyday fucka nm
Nov 23rd 2016
81
                good luck with that (putting your crates up)
Nov 23rd 2016
82
This part is the biggest lie ever told:
Nov 18th 2016
25
so...u just read my post and not the one above, huh?
Nov 18th 2016
27
*EDIT* I owe you a better answer than that.
Nov 18th 2016
30
No, you're going to tour smaller venues that sell their tickets as the v...
Nov 18th 2016
31
      like I just told DVS, sure. It *has* worked.
Nov 18th 2016
32
      RE: No, you're going to tour smaller venues that sell their tickets as t...
Nov 18th 2016
47
           and nobody will admit it:
Nov 21st 2016
72
just because something is impossible to find
Nov 18th 2016
42
      ^^^^^
Nov 22nd 2016
79
you appear to lack the ability to think critically
Nov 18th 2016
33
you're supporting his point with this part:
Nov 18th 2016
34
RE: you're supporting his point with this part:
Nov 18th 2016
37
of course if the artist wants it up
Nov 18th 2016
43
RE: you appear to lack the ability to think critically
Nov 18th 2016
45
      i'm not arguing with someone who calls me "buttmunch"
Nov 18th 2016
48
           cuz u have no argument
Nov 18th 2016
50
nvm
Nov 22nd 2016
80
Fuuuuuuuuccckkkkk!
Nov 17th 2016
3
Inbox for other options??
Nov 17th 2016
6
Fuck 2016, in the goat ass!
Nov 18th 2016
9
This is the worst day of my life
Nov 18th 2016
10
Both this and my alternate file locker site are down
Nov 18th 2016
12
so it was not a seized, unrecoverable data lost?
Nov 18th 2016
14
RIP to the best thing since OiNK..s/o to Nodima for the invite.
Nov 18th 2016
15
*dap*
Nov 18th 2016
23
      i had an invite sitting to give away
Nov 18th 2016
24
      that shit was a golden goose for music. u ever need anythign, lmk.
Nov 18th 2016
28
           RE: that shit was a golden goose for music. u ever need anythign, lmk.
Nov 18th 2016
51
                sorry ur music collection sucks. best of luck in ur future endeavors nm
Nov 18th 2016
52
                     if u only knew homey
Nov 18th 2016
54
                          are you a luddite?
Nov 18th 2016
55
                          nope...
Nov 18th 2016
56
                          You spend your time scouring the Internet for a Patek Phillipe sundial
Nov 19th 2016
63
                               you're so witty!
Nov 19th 2016
66
                                    Lmao.. Pretty sure my actual hip hop crates would shit on yours too Howa...
Nov 21st 2016
73
                                         not if you
Dec 05th 2016
87
waffles is gone too. both heads that sprung from OiNK are gone.
Nov 18th 2016
16
also, Shkreli seems to be implying he's behind it because he couldn't ge...
Nov 18th 2016
17
i don't know who that is, but....
Nov 18th 2016
18
he's the AIDS pill price hike and $20 million Wu-Tang album guy
Nov 18th 2016
20
What's Worst Is He's Proud Of That Shit
Nov 19th 2016
60
      RE: What's Worst Is He's Proud Of That Shit
Nov 20th 2016
69
never heard of it. what did i miss?
Nov 18th 2016
26
Imagine a discogs that was also an access point to that recording
Nov 18th 2016
36
holy shit i DID miss something that sounds like it was tailor made
Nov 18th 2016
38
:( How did i miss this...?
Nov 18th 2016
57
great summary
Nov 18th 2016
59
Amazing summary
Nov 19th 2016
61
RE: Imagine a discogs that was also an access point to that recording
Nov 19th 2016
65
I don't know how the hell I did not know about this.
Nov 25th 2016
84
Never knew it existed :(
Dec 07th 2016
100
RE: never heard of it. what did i miss?
Nov 19th 2016
64
but some how spiritsearch is still up and running
Nov 18th 2016
29
RIP
Nov 18th 2016
35
RE: what.cd dead?
Nov 18th 2016
39
Say more..?
Nov 18th 2016
58
I was there from the first week they opened
Nov 19th 2016
62
from Oink to Waffles to What
Nov 20th 2016
68
      Same here
Nov 20th 2016
70
"LULZ!!!"
Nov 20th 2016
67
Its like the burning of the Library of Alexandria
Nov 21st 2016
71
not to sound like an elitist. BUT...
Nov 21st 2016
74
I see both sides. Harder to get, you want it more
Nov 21st 2016
76
      you are correct.
Nov 22nd 2016
78
Might as well get in line.
Dec 08th 2016
103
never could get an invite... so fuck em
Nov 21st 2016
75
RE: never could get an invite... so fuck em
Nov 21st 2016
77
Who got an Apollo.rip invite?
Dec 01st 2016
85
me too please!
Dec 05th 2016
86
Yo, if anyone has then, could I please get one?!
Dec 05th 2016
88
Me first tho
Dec 05th 2016
89
how we get invites otherwise?
Dec 06th 2016
90
I went camping for a day came back and saw they had open sign-ups.
Dec 06th 2016
91
PassTheHeadphones is another option.
Dec 06th 2016
92
far harder to get into, though.
Dec 07th 2016
99
      It's a bit easier for PTH if you have Elite Status at certain sites.
Dec 08th 2016
105
I'd like an invite as well.
Dec 06th 2016
93
Can someone give me an invite?
Dec 06th 2016
94
Stands in line....
Dec 06th 2016
95
i will patiently wait in line also
Dec 07th 2016
96
I guess i'll get in line as well
Dec 07th 2016
97
I need one
Dec 07th 2016
98
waits in line too
Dec 08th 2016
101
Gets in line
Dec 08th 2016
102
Gets in line...crosses fingers
Dec 08th 2016
104

mashpg89
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1. "this is worse than when the Library of Alexandria burned down"
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What.Cd had the greatest music collection ever. I feel horrible and don't know how to listen to music anymore.

Wouldn't be who I am today without what.cd

Hope something replaces it soon.

burn one for rippy

  

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howardlloyd
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2. "RE: what.cd dead?"
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smfh

a "piracy hub" should be shut down.

its crazy how people legitimately believe they should be able to steal music or that music is free

i'm sure the response will be "there were albums up there that are out of print or are no longer available"

but if the rights holders wanted it sold on itunes... it would be

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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4. "Agreed about piracy"
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But some of us, such as myself, both pay for streaming services while going to what.cd for things that are unavailable. It's not all pirates/cheap ass music consumers over there; there was a wealth of valuable art stored over there that might be lost as a result of this.

  

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46. "lost how?"
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to you and other thieves?

somebody has the vinyl/cassette/cd to post it in the 1st place

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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PCProductions
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83. "Bootleg releases aren't on those media"
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Madlib/Dilla beat tapes, Samiyam unreleased work, stuff like that.

  

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5. "Delete yo self!"
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>a "piracy hub" should be shut down.
>
>its crazy how people legitimately believe they should be able
>to steal music or that music is free
>
>i'm sure the response will be "there were albums up there that
>are out of print or are no longer available"
>
>but if the rights holders wanted it sold on itunes... it would
>be

Yeah power to the companies!!

I agree.

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http://www.discogs.com/user/tomhayes-roots/collection

  

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7. "my favorite rapper told me if i ain't got no paper...."
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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

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8. "You definitely voted for Trump "
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>smfh
>
>a "piracy hub" should be shut down.
>
>its crazy how people legitimately believe they should be able
>to steal music or that music is free
>
>i'm sure the response will be "there were albums up there that
>are out of print or are no longer available"
>
>but if the rights holders wanted it sold on itunes... it would
>be
>
>

-------------------
I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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40. "only idiots believe"
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you can dismantle the masters house with his own tools

you dont know me at all

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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Hellyeah
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49. "yep. you definitely voted for trump"
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53. "i think you're out of your weight class"
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maybe you should google the quote

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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11. "all that is fine & good...but what about De La's catalog?"
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>i'm sure the response will be "there were albums up there that
>are out of print or are no longer available"
>
>but if the rights holders wanted it sold on itunes... it would
>be
>
>

------------------------------------------
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https://www.mixcloud.com/mistamonotone/music-to-smack-motherfckers-to/

mistamonotone - taboo
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41. "if de la wanted their shit up for free"
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they woulda posted it for more than 24 hours

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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13. "exactly. "
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>smfh
>
>a "piracy hub" should be shut down.
>
>its crazy how people legitimately believe they should be able
>to steal music or that music is free
>

You'd be surprised. They'll shout you down about it too.



>i'm sure the response will be "there were albums up there that
>are out of print or are no longer available"
>
>but if the rights holders wanted it sold on itunes... it would
>be
>

That too.


>

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19. "Open Letter to all Fuckybirds"
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Fri Nov-18-16 01:37 PM by DVS

  

          

Fuck you. Fuck you and all your soapbox preaching, rabbit assed, armchair quarterback, bitch assed opinions.

You know what What.cd did?

What was the place you went to for your shit that was IMPOSSIBLE to find.

DJ'ing on Serato and looking for a lossless version of a remix single released strictly in Botswana and Bangladesh on an unlabeled 12"?

Go to What.

Favorite artist has an album that you didn't even know existed because they sold it on tour in 1973?

What got that that shit.

Band trying to get your name out, just to build a buzz and get tour money?

Hit What up and let them FreeLeech your shit, then watch the net go nuts as EVERYBODY at the show sings your song lyrics.

You don't know shit.
You're a fuckboy.
DJ's are sitting here in tears because the LP they needed for the show they got in Japan is sitting at home in Philly and they can't just go to What and download it to complete their setlist.

Eat 8 million pounds of dick and go back for seconds.

Sincerely,

Everybody except YO bitch ass.

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

Waldorf and Statler Vol 4:CONAN IS OUT NOW!!!: http://waldorfandstatler.bandcamp.com

and don't forget to check "DVS 4 ALDERMAN"

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21. "an artist named Flashbulb had the most leeched album for years on what"
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and he uploaded it himself.

he considers what.cd one of the foundations that has allowed him to make a living wage as a touring artist.

I reember What also made deals with a couple record labels to release their new albums specifically through What rather than Bandcamp, streaming sources or retailers.

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22. "These idiots have no fucking idea what was just lost"
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I'm in severe mourning. That spot was the SHIT

d

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Waldorf and Statler Vol 4:CONAN IS OUT NOW!!!: http://waldorfandstatler.bandcamp.com

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44. "youre the idiot"
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who believes something was "lost"

when someone had to post it in the first place i.e. its in peoples possession

smfh

but YOU have the right to it because its not easy to obtain

go dig u entitled mother fucker

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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81. "I'll be entitled, put my crates against yours anyday fucka nm"
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.

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

Waldorf and Statler Vol 4:CONAN IS OUT NOW!!!: http://waldorfandstatler.bandcamp.com

and don't forget to check "DVS 4 ALDERMAN"

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82. "good luck with that (putting your crates up)"
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good deflection after your dumb ass logic was exposed ("what was lost!")

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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25. "This part is the biggest lie ever told:"
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>Band trying to get your name out, just to build a buzz and get
>tour money?
>
>Hit What up and let them FreeLeech your shit, then watch the
>net go nuts as EVERYBODY at the show sings your song lyrics.
>

people act like you get a bunch of innanet hits and then go out on tour. Unless you're funding your OWN tour, then no. That's not true. Not too many undiscovered acts get to go on a *real* tour. You need to have a following to even get a booking agent, so no. You're not gonna get a screaming fanbase in the crowd because you set your shit out for free. You gotta have some decent sales numbers to get promoters to even spit in your direction.

The FIRST question an agent or promoter will ask you is: "do you have a following, Have you sold x amount of units?"

What are you gonna say? "No, but my shit does well on the pirate sites..."

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27. "so...u just read my post and not the one above, huh?"
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good shit

D

vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

Waldorf and Statler Vol 4:CONAN IS OUT NOW!!!: http://waldorfandstatler.bandcamp.com

and don't forget to check "DVS 4 ALDERMAN"

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30. "*EDIT* I owe you a better answer than that."
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Fri Nov-18-16 02:42 PM by Shogun

          

Sure I read it, and what you're saying has some valid points. BUT let's not act like that's the norm. I'm sure there have been cases where it worked. But that's not gonna happen to any and every artist that puts his shit 'out there'.

You gotta understand that.

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31. "No, you're going to tour smaller venues that sell their tickets as the v..."
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there are venues in any major city that are just looking to book acts, are BYOB/A, hold maybe 50 people and do it primarily for the love of the art. There are two such venues in my city that put on shows with national artists whom I've never heard of and/or don't have record deals because the venue itself can sell the tickets to the loyal following of people who love seeing who that venue endorses to play its space.

and you're not going to have screaming fans, you're going to have a bunch of nerds silently watching you and wondering if it'll sound like the album they heard and liked for free on the internet.

The dude in questions runs a record label, Alphabasic, and this is their mission statement from their website:

"...in the face of the digital revolution, I had trouble finding a reason to work with any record labels or distribution methods that weren't my own. I registered Alphabasic as a non-profit business, and every extra dime of money we make from the music we release goes to the artist. I receive no salary, and the only label employees who see our customer's money are those hired for shipping and occasionally accounting. Under almost all circumstances, if you pay $12 for a CD here, the artist will get $12 for it.

I fully support listeners taking media distribution into their own hands. Without "music piracy", making a living off of a non-mainstream type of music wouldn't stand a chance in the world. So do whatever you want. Download it, rip it, share it. All I ask is that you help spread the word about where the listener can find more music and show support if they have the means."

I'd say take your argument up with him because he makes it work FOR HIM, and there are a lot of artists out there who are not trying to play even 250 person venues, or simply want their music heard by studio executives so they can get some residuals off a placement on a commercial or TV show.

Thinking about it another way, how many rappers have built their names off mixtapes? Curren$y has a self-built empire on free music, it was just distributed via DatPiff and LiveMixtapes rather than a torrent site, but the ideas behind it weren't different. You can take note that he had been signed to No Limit and Cash Money for years before that movement began but you can't claim he had any real fame or individual success prior to that 2008 mixtape run starting with Independence Day. That's a career built entirely on free music and fans talking about it and wanting the artist to come to their town.

It's seems bizarre that in 2016 this line of thinking even has to be justified. The Weeknd released three free albums and toured off those extensively (and to often poorly received ends) but, again, just because the outlet wasn't "popular music torrent site x" but rather "popular music .zip file site y" doesn't make the means any less absurd.

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32. "like I just told DVS, sure. It *has* worked."
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But that's not the norm.


>there are venues in any major city that are just looking to
>book acts, are BYOB/A, hold maybe 50 people and do it
>primarily for the love of the art.


Let's not kid ourselves. Not too many people do it for "love of the art". They'll *say* that. But wave a checkbook in front of them and see what happens.


>and you're not going to have screaming fans, you're going to
>have a bunch of nerds silently watching you and wondering if
>it'll sound like the album they heard and liked for free on
>the internet.
>

perhaps.

>The dude in questions runs a record label, Alphabasic, and
>this is their mission statement from their website:
>
>"...in the face of the digital revolution, I had trouble
>finding a reason to work with any record labels or
>distribution methods that weren't my own. I registered
>Alphabasic as a non-profit business, and every extra dime of
>money we make from the music we release goes to the artist. I
>receive no salary, and the only label employees who see our
>customer's money are those hired for shipping and occasionally
>accounting. Under almost all circumstances, if you pay $12 for
>a CD here, the artist will get $12 for it.


That's HIS business model. But that isn't feasible for those who actually want to make a profit. What he's doing is admirable, but not too many people are willing to take on that much work and not get paid for it.

>
>I fully support listeners taking media distribution into their
>own hands. Without "music piracy", making a living off of a
>non-mainstream type of music wouldn't stand a chance in the
>world. So do whatever you want. Download it, rip it, share it.
>All I ask is that you help spread the word about where the
>listener can find more music and show support if they have the
>means."
>

again, that's reasonable.


>I'd say take your argument up with him because he makes it
>work FOR HIM, and there are a lot of artists out there who are
>not trying to play even 250 person venues, or simply want
>their music heard by studio executives so they can get some
>residuals off a placement on a commercial or TV show.
>

AHA! You said it: "residuals". The bottom line is most artists and labels want to make money.



>Thinking about it another way, how many rappers have built
>their names off mixtapes? Curren$y has a self-built empire on
>free music, it was just distributed via DatPiff and
>LiveMixtapes rather than a torrent site, but the ideas behind
>it weren't different. You can take note that he had been
>signed to No Limit and Cash Money for years before that
>movement began but you can't claim he had any real fame or
>individual success prior to that 2008 mixtape run starting
>with Independence Day. That's a career built entirely on free
>music and fans talking about it and wanting the artist to come
>to their town.

But he was *signed* first, no?


>
>It's seems bizarre that in 2016 this line of thinking even has
>to be justified. The Weeknd released three free albums and
>toured off those extensively (and to often poorly received
>ends) but, again, just because the outlet wasn't "popular
>music torrent site x" but rather "popular music .zip file site
>y" doesn't make the means any less absurd.


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47. "RE: No, you're going to tour smaller venues that sell their tickets as t..."
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>It's seems bizarre that in 2016 this line of thinking even has
>to be justified. The Weeknd released three free albums and
>toured off those extensively (and to often poorly received
>ends) but, again, just because the outlet wasn't "popular
>music torrent site x" but rather "popular music .zip file site
>y" doesn't make the means any less absurd.

the weekend has had millions of marketing dollars spent on his behalf.

who are you comparing him too? smfh

and HE CHOSE to post it... thats not the norm on theft sites

entitled mother fuckers. just admit it

"i dont steal anywhere else in life... i pay the cabbie, i pay the restaurant for shit food i didnt even like... but because i can DL music for free at my desk I choose to steal it"

just say it... the cognitive dissonance and hoops yall jumping through to justify your behavior is nauseating

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72. "and nobody will admit it:"
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>entitled mother fuckers. just admit it
>
>"i dont steal anywhere else in life... i pay the cabbie, i pay
>the restaurant for shit food i didnt even like... but because
>i can DL music for free at my desk I choose to steal it"
>
>just say it... the cognitive dissonance and hoops yall jumping
>through to justify your behavior is nauseating
>


this WHOLE thread is just them justifying stealing. Plain and simple. We've all done it, but that doesn't make it right.

LOL @ the crying because the Den of Thieves has closed shop.

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42. "just because something is impossible to find"
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dont mean you have a right to it

theres alot of records i have been looking for - for decades!!!

you entitled spoiled internet mutha fuckers really have it twisted

it literally cost $30 to put something on itunes

if rights holders wanted it up there... it WOULD be up there

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79. "^^^^^"
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>dont mean you have a right to it
>
>theres alot of records i have been looking for - for
>decades!!!


Ab-so-fuckin'-lutely.


>
>you entitled spoiled internet mutha fuckers really have it
>twisted
>
>it literally cost $30 to put something on iTunes

Not even THAT much, actually. But yeah.


>
>if rights holders wanted it up there... it WOULD be up there

say it again.

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33. "you appear to lack the ability to think critically"
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>smfh
>
>a "piracy hub" should be shut down.
>
>its crazy how people legitimately believe they should be able
>to steal music or that music is free

a lot of music IS free these days. that's why artists post full albums on youtube and soundcloud. that's why major artists are releasing free mixtapes to promote their brand and tours. that's why the largest revenue stream for many artists, both major and minor, is in fact touring and merchandise sales

>i'm sure the response will be "there were albums up there that
>are out of print or are no longer available"
>
>but if the rights holders wanted it sold on itunes... it would
>be

it's not always that easy. sometimes the artists don't hold the rights. sometimes the rights holders don't want to or can't put it on digital services for several reasons (poor returns, potential rights disputes, lack of technical know-how, etc.)

next time try to take two seconds to consider other perspectives before pressing "post message"

  

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34. "you're supporting his point with this part: "
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>>smfh
>>
>>a "piracy hub" should be shut down.
>>
>>its crazy how people legitimately believe they should be
>able
>>to steal music or that music is free
>

>>
>>but if the rights holders wanted it sold on itunes... it
>would
>>be
>
>it's not always that easy. sometimes the artists don't hold
>the rights. sometimes the rights holders don't want to or
>can't put it on digital services for several reasons (poor
>returns, potential rights disputes, lack of technical
>know-how, etc.)
>

meaning: "they don't want their material to be given away for free".


>next time try to take two seconds to consider other
>perspectives before pressing "post message"

yeah. that too.


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37. "RE: you're supporting his point with this part: "
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Fri Nov-18-16 04:04 PM by bearfield

  

          

>>>smfh
>>>
>>>a "piracy hub" should be shut down.
>>>
>>>its crazy how people legitimately believe they should be
>>able
>>>to steal music or that music is free
>>
>
>>>
>>>but if the rights holders wanted it sold on itunes... it
>>would
>>>be
>>
>>it's not always that easy. sometimes the artists don't hold
>>the rights. sometimes the rights holders don't want to or
>>can't put it on digital services for several reasons (poor
>>returns, potential rights disputes, lack of technical
>>know-how, etc.)
>>
>
>meaning: "they don't want their material to be given away for
>free".

i don't think so. i said, "it's complicated." also the rights holders and the people that actually made the music may not agree on what to do. if they're just going to sit there and do nothing with the music it may as well be available for the people who want it. i realize this is a selfish stance

but your point is taken. i agree that some people want to make money off selling their music. i don't think it's all people though and that revenue streams for musicians are more diverse than just "selling it on itunes"

  

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43. "of course if the artist wants it up"
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its a whole nother conversation genius

but that should have been obvious from my post where i said "if they wanted it up...."

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45. "RE: you appear to lack the ability to think critically"
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>it's not always that easy. sometimes the artists don't hold
>the rights. sometimes the rights holders don't want to or
>can't put it on digital services for several reasons (poor
>returns, potential rights disputes, lack of technical
>know-how, etc.)

if the artist doesnt have the rights then that means they signed them away. i feel bad for them but THEY did that

poor returns? it costs nothing to post something on itunes GENIUS
potential rights disputes...see above response.
lack of technical know how??? filling out some forms? FOH try again

>next time try to take two seconds to consider other
>perspectives before pressing "post message"

follow your own advice. you in here arguing for theft buttmunch

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48. "i'm not arguing with someone who calls me "buttmunch""
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>follow your own advice. you in here arguing for theft
>buttmunch
>

you're in here making blanket statements. i'm saying there are shades of grey

have a nice weekend

  

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50. "cuz u have no argument"
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besides goal post moving

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80. "nvm"
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3. "Fuuuuuuuuccckkkkk! "
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I didn't use it much except to find older albums that are hard to get a hold of. Dammit!

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6. "Inbox for other options??"
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9. "Fuck 2016, in the goat ass!"
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______________________________

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10. "This is the worst day of my life"
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nm

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12. "Both this and my alternate file locker site are down"
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i don't know what to do

  

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14. "so it was not a seized, unrecoverable data lost?"
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15. "RIP to the best thing since OiNK..s/o to Nodima for the invite."
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glad I got about 1.5 Tbs of music in my time there.

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23. "*dap*"
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I've been backing up my new hard drive to my old hard drive all morning and seriously considering getting a third to back THOSE up


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24. "i had an invite sitting to give away"
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because my share ratio was .95 or some shit. I held 100s of Gigs open in my shit specifically because I knew someone would need it and I wanted to make sure they could just like I could.

But I wasn't giving just anybody out that invite, b. You had to understand how precious that shit was.

Just typing about this is making me more upset

D

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28. "that shit was a golden goose for music. u ever need anythign, lmk."
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i literally got thousands of dollars worth of music from there lol.

>I've been backing up my new hard drive to my old hard drive
>all morning and seriously considering getting a third to back
>THOSE up
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~
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>http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
>Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

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51. "RE: that shit was a golden goose for music. u ever need anythign, lmk."
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>i literally got thousands of dollars worth of music from
>there lol.

i bet u never stole anything in the real world in ya life

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52. "sorry ur music collection sucks. best of luck in ur future endeavors nm"
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>>i literally got thousands of dollars worth of music from
>>there lol.
>
>i bet u never stole anything in the real world in ya life
>

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54. "if u only knew homey"
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i have vinyl...

dont gotta worry bout no hard drives or sites going down DUMMY!

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55. "are you a luddite?"
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that's a serious question. and it's not an insult

  

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56. "nope..."
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but i do believe analog sounds way better

and i started collecting in the 70s

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63. "You spend your time scouring the Internet for a Patek Phillipe sundial"
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>i have vinyl...
>
>dont gotta worry bout no hard drives or sites going down
>DUMMY!

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66. "you're so witty!"
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u just jealous cuz i have an actual "real" collection

and you're a computer virus away from having nothing

you're actually on a "hip hop" message board and trying clown someone who owns vinyl

fucking idiot

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73. "Lmao.. Pretty sure my actual hip hop crates would shit on yours too Howa..."
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But please... Join us in the year 2016.

>u just jealous cuz i have an actual "real" collection
>
>and you're a computer virus away from having nothing
>
>you're actually on a "hip hop" message board and trying clown
>someone who owns vinyl
>
>fucking idiot

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87. "not if you"
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crying about what.cd

if you had what i did... you wouldnt care lol

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16. "waffles is gone too. both heads that sprung from OiNK are gone."
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waffles was up first, but what became the one the sharks from OiNK flocked to. I was with OiNK for nearly all of its run and what/waffles from the beginning.


I'm not a teenager in high school ./ college anymore and haven't participated in the forums forever so I don't have the same contacts or time to cultivate them as I did before; I think even their IRC channel is down?


Anyway, it was about a month before waffles took OiNK's place and another few weeks before what popped up behind that. Hopefully someone is working on something; I think it'd be nice if we heard from all the musicians that used the site, similar to when OiNK went down and a lot of prominent musicians couldn't help but admit they logged in daily.

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17. "also, Shkreli seems to be implying he's behind it because he couldn't ge..."
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an invite.

https://twitter.com/MartinShkreli/status/799446184477786112

ugh.

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18. "i don't know who that is, but...."
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i don't know who that is, but why does his profile say he's the GOAT HNIC? does HNIC stand for something other than "Head N***** In Charge?"

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20. "he's the AIDS pill price hike and $20 million Wu-Tang album guy"
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and seems like it was just a legit government takedown though I wouldn't be surprised if he put some money behind it just for funsies. he was tweeting for site access a few weeks ago.

he also funds groups to target Hillary Clinton supporters' social media who are angry about the election results with troll advertisements and memes


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60. "What's Worst Is He's Proud Of That Shit"
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Someone needs to put this asshat in his place after you lanked that tweet up, check what else he said: "what.cd = i shut cats down when they tryn stunt on my shit", for reals, he's need to be bitch slapped with the quickness.


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69. "RE: What's Worst Is He's Proud Of That Shit"
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>Someone needs to put this asshat in his place after you
>lanked that tweet up, check what else he said: "what.cd = i
>shut cats down when they tryn stunt on my shit", for reals,
>he's need to be bitch slapped with the quickness.
>
>
>
where the fuck did this dipshit and his money come from? serious question. I have no idea, but i'll google. what a turd!

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Hellyeah
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26. "never heard of it. what did i miss?"
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Nodima
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36. "Imagine a discogs that was also an access point to that recording"
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Or a Spotify that operated in the way Discogs does.

You could open, say, Future's DS2 and download that album as a FLAC, 320kb/s, V0, 256kb/s, or V2 file. You could download it Mastered for iTunes, CD, WEB, CD Deluxe or WEB Deluxe. Or, you already owned the album, and you were just looking for comments about it. But then you see the producers tab, and it lists Metro, Southside, Zaytoven, et al. You could click Zaytoven and see every available torrent that his production had been tagged on. OR you could see the Freebandz and Epic Records tags and go see what was in the database from them.


That was one use for it. The other would be, and this was how my friend used it, you're in love with '80s Japanese culture. Tracking down all the animes, buying the LPs and cassettes and CDs when they pop up, but there is always more, a lot of printed in 500 print runs or less, most of relegated to Japan only. You become a huge fan of Junichi Inagaki in particular. There was a web matrix at the bottom of each artist's page connecting you to both projects that artist participated in and artists who were similar to them whether that was tied to genre, label, era, what have you. If you had extremely specific interest, what.cd didn't just connect you to that interest, it gave you the means to explore them to the furthest extent possible.

Let's say you're not into esoteric adventures, though. You just fucking LOVE The Beatles (I'm using this example because they're the artist of this variety I'm most familiar with; Prince, The Who, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Jackson, et al apply as well). You've owned a CD of Abbey Road for years, and you've noticed in the liner notes its the 1987, stereo remaster. You've worn that release out, you have a good stereo system, and you realize you've never really heard the album as it was originally released to the public, mono, on vinyl, as two continuous sides of music.

What.CD would whittle that release down to UK, US, Japan, 24K, etc. etc. etc. et fucking cetera through to whenever that album was last re-released, and the users often noted what made it different in the liner notes. If you were a geek for a particularly popular record that artists, engineers and labels had futzed with over a span of decades, all that was at your finger tips.

For a more current example, all the versions of The Life of Pablo were date-marked, available in FLAC, 320, V0 and V2, with extensive notes on what made each version different from lyrics to down-to-the-second musical changes.

Yes, it was "piracy", but that's an absurd simplifcation of the service it provided people who were passionate about the music they listened to.

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38. "holy shit i DID miss something that sounds like it was tailor made"
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for me

now i can understand why everyone is so shocked about it...good looking out

  

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57. ":( How did i miss this...?"
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59. "great summary"
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I've had trouble explaining why it was special to others today but you summed it up well. Just an awesome community of souls.

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61. "Amazing summary"
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Whenever Waffles comes back online, as much as I will appreciate having it around as a silver lining... it's not 1/100th of the site What.CD was.


I guess the one positive I'm going to take away is that something even better will hopefully be born from the ashes, like What.CD was born in the wake of OiNK.

But IDK what the fuck I'm going to do in the meantime. You perfectly described what made What so special: music discovery. The Similar Artists tab and the Top 10/Top 100 torrents was responsible for like 80% of my musical discovery the last few years. Torrent comments sections and the What forums were prob the other 20%. I checked the Top 10 at least twice a day to see the newest uploads.

I'd gladly pay $20-$30 a month for What.CD. None of the streaming services are worth a wet fart in comparison.

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65. "RE: Imagine a discogs that was also an access point to that recording"
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>
>Let's say you're not into esoteric adventures, though. You
>just fucking LOVE The Beatles (I'm using this example because
>they're the artist of this variety I'm most familiar with;
>Prince, The Who, Bruce Springsteen, Michael Jackson, et al
>apply as well). You've owned a CD of Abbey Road for years, and
>you've noticed in the liner notes its the 1987, stereo
>remaster. You've worn that release out, you have a good stereo
>system, and you realize you've never really heard the album as
>it was originally released to the public, mono, on vinyl, as
>two continuous sides of music.
>
>What.CD would whittle that release down to UK, US, Japan, 24K,
>etc. etc. etc. et fucking cetera through to whenever that
>album was last re-released, and the users often noted what
>made it different in the liner notes. If you were a geek for a
>particularly popular record that artists, engineers and labels
>had futzed with over a span of decades, all that was at your
>finger tips.
>
>For a more current example, all the versions of The Life of
>Pablo were date-marked, available in FLAC, 320, V0 and V2,
>with extensive notes on what made each version different from
>lyrics to down-to-the-second musical changes.


And the more I've dwelt on it, the more this is the part that seems the most fragile going forward. I downloaded all the versions of Pablo like an idiot (there's maybe 3 essential versions of the 6 or 7 he released if you're a Kanye nerd) and dated them, but I don't know which release of, say, Metallica's Kill 'Em All I have. I could just upload things to a new tracker blindly, but that defeats what made What so interesting.

When it originally opened up, What was the nerd's alternative to Waffles. Waffles took on most of the pop, indie, emo, Big 4 Leaks, etc. that blogs like Brooklyn Vegan, 2dopeboyz etc. thrived on while What was content to have a Top 10 littered with mid-90s re-releases of jazz records from the 50s. I had accounts with both from the very beginning, and when I was younger I preferred Waffles to the point I really only used my What account if Waffles didn't have something; for a long time, I actually thought What kind of sucked.

But its administrators knew what they were doing, and the cultivated a real culture of music appreciation rather than appropriation; by the time Waffles began to fall off when it came to older artists and became almost entirely focused on new releases and indie fluff, going back to What was like a parting of the Red Sea. They'd added all that categorical stuff where it had originally just been a mess of torrents with bitrate and release year tags. And it just had EVERYTHING. It was always a shock to put in a search for something and find NOTHING; your jaw would drop when you searched for a tour-only cassette tape from a early-80s punk band and it wasn't there.

That took years and years to build, and a lot of trust between administrators, moderators and the users who uploaded the data. And they were METICULOUS - there are countless albums in my iTunes that I downloaded, have listened to dozens of times and they sound great to me, but they were flagged and removed from the tracker just a few hours after their upload because there was a weird hitch in the soundwave file and they'd rather you rip it again a little more carefully. The zero tolerance for rips of streams was second to none; no matter how eager you were to record or pull the source of an NPR first listen file or rip the guts out of a PlayMPE press session, What wouldn't hear of it.

Whatever comes next, that will be their greatest challenge. Will the people who uploaded their collections with such tenacity and attention to detail do so again for another site? Or was it all a wonderful coincidence that What came together in the way that it did?

  

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84. "I don't know how the hell I did not know about this."
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100. "Never knew it existed :("
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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64. "RE: never heard of it. what did i miss?"
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damn never heard of this either
looks like I missed out

i hope somebody lets us know what the next best alternative

  

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29. "but some how spiritsearch is still up and running"
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I had just got my ratio so damn high like a month ago... this fucking sucks.

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35. "RIP"
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really awful news

  

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39. "RE: what.cd dead?"
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What.cd moved to Soulseek, FYI.

It was all a dream
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58. "Say more..?"
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62. "I was there from the first week they opened"
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I'm still in disbelief

  

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68. "from Oink to Waffles to What"
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i was there. man.

  

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70. "Same here"
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67. ""LULZ!!!""
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Noone gives a rats ass about dis type of shit today. The responses in dis thread just manifest wut I already kno at OKP today is lame central supreme, like *literally* a gadering of cunts, just chase me away so I don't even *want* to come 'ere anymore, please!!!!!!!

  

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71. "Its like the burning of the Library of Alexandria"
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Nodima covered it above for the people who didn't get it. If you wanted to use it to get the new Drake CD you were using it wrong.

Hell you wouldn't WANT to get the new Drake CD on What because it was a tightrope of how much you could download vs upload where eventually get kicked out (happened to a DJ friend!, lol). They INTERVIEWED (real live online interview!) new members, questions and all. You had to study for it.

What.CD was a place for music obsessives, and the closest you're going to get in this era of the record stores of old where you can just discover shit.


Shouts to Steve O Tron; he's the one who hooked me up with an invite all those years ago...my ratio was still standing strong. Sucked to have to come home and remove those torrents

  

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74. "not to sound like an elitist. BUT..."
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>What.CD was a place for music obsessives, and the closest
>you're going to get in this era of the record stores of old
>where you can just discover shit.
>

When you had to get your fingers dirty, and choose wisely. You had to do your homework in order to not get beat.


That's the point of it all isn't it? People who actually *did* grow up going to record stores don't feel sorry for the "d/load it all and never listen to half of it" crowd of listeners these days. A friend of mine recently asked me ( with a straight face, no less): "give me everything you have. Just copy it all..."

Mind you, a LARGE quantity of my digital music was purchased, the rest of it was ripped from CD's I've bought over the years, so I'm not feeling the idea of handing over shit I've spent thousands of dollars on just so you can listen to two or three albums.


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76. "I see both sides. Harder to get, you want it more"
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But like I tried to say above...what.cd wasn't exactly a walk in the park as far as downloads were concerned...the rules were strict and you got kicked out with a quickness.

With so many things that didn't make the transition into digital there's a shitload of music there that's loss in the either. It's not as if good old record shops have started appearing again with the resurgence of vinyl; those times are old.

I realize I go and listen to alot of records around the end of the CD era and Ill flash back to when I brought those records; from what it felt like to unwrap it to how long it took me to 'get' those records because I aint like em at first but kept em in the cd player out of laziness.

So while it sucks for this generation to not be able to walk in and fall into a rabbit hole (and also support a mom+pop store along with the artist), I can't be mad at people coming up with alternatives even if the legal space is dubious.


  

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78. "you are correct."
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>With so many things that didn't make the transition into
>digital there's a shitload of music there that's loss in the
>either. It's not as if good old record shops have started
>appearing again with the resurgence of vinyl; those times are
>old.

That's a scam anyway. I saw a kid paying 20 bucks for a used copy of Bob Marley's "Legend". These "clothing stores with a vinyl kiosk" are getting over on folks who don't know any better. It's a shame. They're selling some feeble attempt at hipsterism, not music.



>
>I realize I go and listen to alot of records around the end of
>the CD era and Ill flash back to when I brought those records;
>from what it felt like to unwrap it to how long it took me to
>'get' those records because I aint like em at first but kept
>em in the cd player out of laziness.

fair enough.

>
>So while it sucks for this generation to not be able to walk
>in and fall into a rabbit hole (and also support a mom+pop
>store along with the artist), I can't be mad at people coming
>up with alternatives even if the legal space is dubious.


I can't argue against that. Were it not for *ahem* "The Underground", there's a chance I might not have ever heard of some of my favorite artists. Like I said earlier, we've all done it at one point or another.


>

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103. "Might as well get in line."
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Long time What user and current TL user.

  

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75. "never could get an invite... so fuck em"
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soulseek and blogs always worked for me anyway

you have to be a sick person to be THAT deep into music (what.cd)

  

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77. "RE: never could get an invite... so fuck em"
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>you have to be a sick person to be THAT deep into music
>(what.cd)

nah you're just mad

  

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ChiefRocka
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85. "Who got an Apollo.rip invite?"
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I missed the open signup, heard they just handed out 5 invites to every user.

I was on OiNK, then Waffles, and then lastly, What for the last 5 years. I seed everything I DL forever and had a ratio over 1. Don't have any ratio proof because I never took screenshots, What was so good I never thought about needing to get into another tracker lol. But I've got proof I was on What (a bunch of emails in my inbox showing my username, plus I still have a ton of torrent files saved) if you want it. I'm a good user who knows how to use private trackers and won't fuck up or break any rules.

I know some of you classy, sophisticated mufuckas on here got a spare invite for a legitimate music fan and tracker user.

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86. "me too please!"
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88. "Yo, if anyone has then, could I please get one?!"
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89. "Me first tho"
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Get in line yall

I posted this several days ago and still no response so, it may be an effort in futility anyway.

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90. "how we get invites otherwise?"
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91. "I went camping for a day came back and saw they had open sign-ups."
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Sigh. Oink and What spoiled me.

I'll really miss the editor's picks, that introduced me to so much random music. I'm bummed I can't go back and see what others are saying about the last ones that were up that I've enjoyed.

Completely missed the Xanax/Apollo sign-up by camping after checking every day for a week and coming home to that.

Did get to introduce my son to smores though. Which was pretty sweet.

See ya, JAK
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Steve O Tron v2
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92. "PassTheHeadphones is another option."
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More FLAC uploads so far, but a little less active because people are still afraid to us their ratios.

Sorry, but I won't be giving out invites through the boards as it's a violation (don't have any yet anyways).

  

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99. "far harder to get into, though."
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I think Apollo is definitely moving in the direction of "something for everyone" although FLAC is heavily incentivized.

It'll be interesting to hear how things develop once Waffles is back as well

Part of what made what unique was the concentration of users from all around the world with all levels of access and incredibly diverse array of interests. You wonder if things will remain fractured enough that sites become more specialized by default.

~~~~~~~~~
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Steve O Tron v2
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105. "It's a bit easier for PTH if you have Elite Status at certain sites."
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>I think Apollo is definitely moving in the direction of
>"something for everyone" although FLAC is heavily
>incentivized.
>
>It'll be interesting to hear how things develop once Waffles
>is back as well
>
>Part of what made what unique was the concentration of users
>from all around the world with all levels of access and
>incredibly diverse array of interests. You wonder if things
>will remain fractured enough that sites become more
>specialized by default.

Apollo at the moment is much better in terms of ratios. Everything I upload immediately gets snatched as people have auto-snatches set up, while getting just a single snatch is hard at PTH.

I really don't think Waffles has a place anymore, and I am one of the OG members there. Its refusal to adopt Gazelle and current down time have allowed for these two sites to practically surpass them in a really short time. I know Gazelle might be a mess in terms of the behind-the-scenes stuff with the code, but users don't really care and just like how useful it is. There might be some people that haven't gotten into either site but still have a Waffles account that will be there, but they will most likely leave once they get into either of the new sites. With that said, having more options is great, and I wish Waffles the best, but I am not sure it will survive given their financial issues and with the new options available.

  

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93. "I'd like an invite as well."
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94. "Can someone give me an invite?"
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I was a former Oink/Waffles member. I still use Demonoid although that's not what it once was.
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95. "Stands in line.... "
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may I

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96. "i will patiently wait in line also"
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thanks in advance to whoever has invites.

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97. "I guess i'll get in line as well"
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98. "I need one"
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101. "waits in line too"
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If it helps, I was on Oink, then What.cd.

Now nothing. : (

  

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102. "Gets in line"
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104. "Gets in line...crosses fingers"
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