alright, lets have one rule: has to be restricted to a 2 year period.

otherwise, I am not sold on the idea of one for one matches. Meaning, total output is not the defining criteria, and one song with huge impact can be just as important as a whole album. One example is Crooklyn Dodgers... To me that song means just as much to Tip's legacy as Midnight does as a whole.

Obviously, my choices are wildly up for debate. I could've picked 5 other producers with similar runs, but these were the first ones that came to my head. What say you?

My pick goes to Q-Tip 93-94. After producing ARGUABLY the best Tribe album, which also came with non-album tracks that were just ridiculous (Wild Hot), he comes back with one of the most subtle influences on an album that a producer could ever hope to have: The Infamous. Yes, Havoc mainly produced it. BUT, in addition to the 2 bangers Tip produced, Tip clearly had his hand on almost every track. It is well documented that Tip was heavily involved in the whole album, and you can here the Tribe sonic footprint on several songs, especially Survival of the Fittest. Then there's Crooklyn Dodgers, a song that literally set NYC on fire in 94. I point to that song as Buckshot's arrival party, even more so that Gotcha Opin. And, although I consider Dilla the greatest producer ever, I think that the World Is Yours Remix is the earliest example of the "neo soul" sound (i hate that term, but you know what i mean) that exists. Tribe in general birthed that movement, but that beat in particular was Rhodes over hard drums in a way his previous work wasn't.

Poll result (23 votes) Primo 94-95 (Hard to Earn, Sun Rises, Living Proof, Illmatic, Return of Crooklyn Dodgers, D&D All Stars, etc) (10 votes) Vote Q-Tip 93-94 (Midnight Marauders, Crooklyn Dodgers, Infamous, World is Yours Rmx, etc.) (1 votes) Vote RZA 95-96 (Liquid Swords, OBFCL, Gravediggaz, Iron Man) (9 votes) Vote Pete Rock 92-93 (Mecca and the Soul Brother, World Is Yours, A.D.O.R., Shut Em Down Rmx, Jump Around Rmx, Blue Funk, Down with the King, etc.) (2 votes) Vote Paul C 87-88 (Ultramagnetic MCs, Supa Luva Cee and Cassanova Rudd, Black Rock and Ron, Stezo, Organized Konfusion, etc) (1 votes) Vote Other (0 votes) Vote

On top of what you already mentioned you got biggie, MOP, fat joe, KRS, show & ag, Das EFX, etc. dude had quantity and quality. Shit is insane when you really look at all the gems he produced during that time.

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Hard to Earn, Sun Rises, Living Proof. Three classics. All in an 18 month span. We're talking COMPLETE ALBUMS, not single work, which is key. Not may producers can make a full project with an artist and be cohesive. He banged out 3. And this is BESIDE the single work he was killing at the time. To manage to do both at an incredibly high level is unheard of and almost unmatched

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hip hop heads suck the mid 90s dick way too much. late 80s always gets short shrift.

same damn names in every GOAT producer discussion. PREMOPETERZAPREMOPETERZAPREMOPETERZA.

as if niggas like ced gee, hank shocklee, marley, hurby azor, prince paul, et al didn't introduce technical innovations that revolutionized the game.

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>hip hop heads suck the mid 90s dick way too much. late 80s
>always gets short shrift.
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>same damn names in every GOAT producer discussion.
>PREMOPETERZAPREMOPETERZAPREMOPETERZA.
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>as if niggas like ced gee, hank shocklee, marley, hurby azor,
>prince paul, et al didn't introduce technical innovations that
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I agree that the 80's saw some beast production, but I can't look at it like 80s v 90s. both time periods were dope. strictly going off overall quality and impact, its hard not to put pete, primo, rza, and tip at the top. BUT, I put Paul C on there for a reason. His impact surpassed Prince Paul and Bomb Squad IMO. No primo without Paul C. The original chop master of samples. I agree about Marley and maybe Ced Gee. I feel like a lot of mystery surrounds Ced Gee, and I couldn't speak on exactly what he did (for example, the rumor of him producing criminal minded; i personally think if Ced Gee was involved, how is Paul C not at that table?). Marley 87-88 could easily be on here. I love Bomb Squad but we are talking about a TWO year period. Amerikkka's Most and Fear of a Black Planet not enough to hang with the others. If It Takes A Nation came out in 89, then they'd be on the ballot. Same with Prince Paul. Hall of famer, but we are talking about back to back years, two consecutive. 3 Feet is 89 and DLSID is 91....disqualifies him.

Kawame was cool but Hurby Luv Bug on this list? LOL naw sun. and I fux with Salt-N-Pepa

and 96-97 RZA fails against the other nominees

I love RZA but Primo 94-95 and Tip 93-94 can't be fucked with

make this a 4 year poll, and 93-96 RZA wins (maybe)

Method Man - November 15th, 1994
ODB - Return to 36 - March 28th, 1995
Rae & Ghost - Only Built for Cuban Linx - August 1st, 1995
Gza - Liquid Swords - November 7th, 1995
Ghost & Rae - Ironman - October 29, 1996

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He too was banging out complete albums (which cannot be overstated IMO), and the Purple Tape is an absolute monster. But I'm not sure his side work quite matches Primo's, at the very least

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half-playing, but Dre's run from Efil4zaggin to Deep Cover to The Chronic to Doggystyle is as impressive as any.

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When there is a poll for an producer who took credit for others helping him produce then Andre will get a mention.

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Timbaland: Aaliyah - One In A Million joints, Ginuwine - Bachelor, Missy - Supa Dupa Fly, Timbo + Magoo - Welcome To Our World

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busta - enjoy the ride, badu - didn't cha know, black star - little brother, roots - dynamite, slum vol. 2, like water for chocolate joints...yeah, u probably right lol.

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didn't see reply under you.

Welcome to Detroit?

would that fall in his 2 year span?

Fantastic Vol.2 and WTD were less than a year apart - I remember that much.

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i'm pretty sure jimmy jam + terry lewis did it

But I don't wanna discredit Jam and Lewis

I'd tend to believe them considering that Dilla never struck me as the type of person to lie about his work that way.

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I mean, MY GOD!

Dude was an absolute beast during that time.

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During that span RZA also had the ill You're All I Need Remix, plus soundtrack/compilation cuts like America, Wu-Wear, Semi-Automatic Full Rap Metal Jacket, The Riddler and Who's The Champion.

Yeah he should've listed dirty's album instead of gravediggaz if he was going by albums he produced. Prince Paul did the gravediggaz album.

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and really his 2 years goes like this:

Method Man - November 15th, 1994
ODB - Return to 36 - March 28th, 1995
Rae & Ghost - Only Built for Cuban Linx - August 1st, 1995
Gza - Liquid Swords - November 7th, 1995
Ghost & Rae - Ironman - October 29, 1996

this is the 2 year span. NO producer is touching that run.

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Out of all the great producers, RZA benefited most from the MCs he worked with.

A lot of what made those albums great was the Wu-Tang MCs and I would dare say even more so than RZA.

Meanwhile, not even Lil Dap's mom was copping Livin' Proof to hear her son rhyme.

can't deny that the beats weren't fire on their own.
they just became incredible songs and bodies of work
because of the addition of the emcees.

peanut butter and jelly.

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Stringing the albums together with the interludes and creating the atmosphere that defined Wu.

Work It
Get Ya Freak On
Ching Ching
Cry Me A River
Raise Up
Ugly
We Need A Resolution
Rollout
Oops...Oh My

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>Work It
>Get Ya Freak On
>Ching Ching
>Cry Me A River
>Raise Up
>Ugly
>We Need A Resolution
>Rollout
>Oops...Oh My

We Need a Resolution was great though. Greatly prefer his 96-97 stuff that was mentioned above.

What about the

96-97 run

Both Aaliyah, Ginuwine AND Missy's Supa Dupa Fly + SWV single

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And not just doing side work, but establishing people's careers with his cultural stamp of approval. The last part tips it in his favor against anybody.

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if you came outnof NYC, that's all I'm saying.

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Hyperbole. But 5 NY producers is laughable.

lol... name better two year runs, or stfu.

and then still haven't named any better two year runs? niggas need to stfu when grown folk are talking

Other people are offering suggestions and you aren't even replying to them lol

Organized Noize can compete with the others. 95-96 they did Soul Food, ATLiens, Brainchild, Phobia, Benz or Beamer, Mista, Set it Off Soundtrack, Curtis Mayfield, etc.

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...if only "Dah Shinin" didn't straddle the 94/95 line so close


My pick is Pete Rock...i put owning an era higher than just having multi classic albums in said era.. Pete Rock OWNED 1992 (93 too but less so) ...if you didn't have a Pete Rock remix you were fucking losing out hahaha

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Premier had 'em both

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not to say he was in the running for the best 2 year run, but he dropped a lot of heat during that period.

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96-98 definitely has to get a mention

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Madlib 2010-2011

The whole Medicine Show thing in retrospect is truly an artistic achievement to me. Its criticisms were lack of consistent quality, but I think for the most part it was a pretty large breadth of work reminiscent of Frank Zappa.

Alchemist 2012-2013

This is his RZA impression. The guy really took over at this time. Tons of consistent quality through this era for tons of dudes.