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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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"Poll question: Beat, Rhymes & Life vs Ridin' Dirty: 20th Anniversary Edition"


  

          

Three years after the flawless Midnight Marauders album, Tribe drops their fourth LP, Beat, Rhymes & Life, with assist from Detroit newcomer Jay Dee (Dilla). The album is good and suffers because expectations were very high following two classic LPs (The Low End Theory and Midnight Marauders). This was Tip's best performance as an emcee IMO. Down south, Bun B and Pimp C stepped it up another notch dropping their classic third LP, Ridin' Dirty which followed the solid SuperTight LP from 1994. Most cats wouldn't recognize until the Jay co-sign three years later but Bun and Pimp been kings down south. This is the album Bun let it be known he was a problem on the mic and Pimp kept improving as a producer. Beat, Rhymes & Life and Ridin' Dirty were both released on July 30, 1996. Which album do you prefer and why? This is also a celebration of the greatness that was 1996. I miss new release days where you had multiple great rap albums to choose from.

Favorite track from BR&L
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91kaFxBoTno

Favorite track from Ridin' Dirty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pztxn5-Pj0

Poll result (20 votes)
ATCQ (11 votes)Vote
UGK (9 votes)Vote

  

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
These niggas STILL kissin.
Jul 30th 2016
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Murder
Jul 31st 2016
2
There is so much revisionist history around RD
Jul 31st 2016
3
I agree with this
Jul 31st 2016
4
There is so much revisionist history around the other RD too
Jul 31st 2016
5
For real...
Jul 31st 2016
6
      it was a top 5 album..jus wasnt recognized bcz it wasnt mainstream
Aug 01st 2016
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           It was as mainstream as other albums that year outside of...
Aug 01st 2016
10
           and the only thing keeping The Score from being better is Pras
Aug 01st 2016
11
                Lauryn's greatness on that album outshined Pras' wackness
Aug 03rd 2016
14
           It sold more than most rap albums released in 96
Aug 01st 2016
12
One Day was a pretty big song. Got play in NYC
Aug 03rd 2016
13
Diamonds & Wood>entire BR&L album
Aug 01st 2016
7
Faith wasn't on the first single
Aug 01st 2016
9

JFrost1117
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1. "These niggas STILL kissin."
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kevb
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2. "Murder"
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nuff said

  

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ry 213
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3. "There is so much revisionist history around RD"
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When it dropped it was really appreciated by fans of independent gangsta rap, mainly southern and bay area rap fans but the mainstream rap audience totally ignored it. It wasnt until after Big Pimpin that people started jocking UGK. After that everyone jumped on the bandwagon...

  

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4. "I agree with this"
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We weren't playing UGK up in CT at all when that dropped.

We loved Kast and Face. Even 8ball and MJG got more play than they did.

It is a dope album though and my favorite by them.

I just don't see it as a classic like many people do.

I have to give both these albums another spin to see which I feel is better in 2016.

I obviously played BR&L more in 96 and I'm more closely tied to that one

  

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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5. "There is so much revisionist history around the other RD too"
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Jay has that effect on the east coast.

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6. "For real..."
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I don't even mind an album getting better over time but I've seen Reasonable Doubt listed as a legit top 5 album of all-time online.

Shit wasn't even top 5 of 96.

And I loved that album when it dropped.

  

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8. "it was a top 5 album..jus wasnt recognized bcz it wasnt mainstream"
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10. "It was as mainstream as other albums that year outside of..."
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Pac, Nas, and Fugees.

And of those, I'd say only It Was Written is better.

  

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11. "and the only thing keeping The Score from being better is Pras"
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Pras hurt that album a lot. Dude is a terrible emcee.

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14. "Lauryn's greatness on that album outshined Pras' wackness"
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Which is why I've still got The Score over RD (and I like RD quite a bit).

Lauryn's lyrical performance on that album was an all-timer. Pras could've spent the entire album reciting nursery rhymes (which he essentially did), and that album still would've been great.

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12. "It sold more than most rap albums released in 96"
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With the exception of All Eyez On Me, The Score, IWW and Makaveli. What your top 5 of 96 looking like?

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13. "One Day was a pretty big song. Got play in NYC"
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7. "Diamonds & Wood>entire BR&L album"
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I was HEATED when I heard BR&L, a complete letdown and the formulaic first single with faith evans did it no favors

Then I heard RD and got stuck on Diamonds & Wood: Bun's classic verse, the beat, the hook, Pimp's emotion on the first verse, knowledge on his second, everything about it was a 5 mic classic.

In Miami we listened to everything. It wasn't until I started traveling later that I realized people were on some regional shit.

  

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9. "Faith wasn't on the first single"
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And I understand BR&L being a let down but there are some absolute gems on there, specifically Get A Hold and Jam which both hold up to anything on Ridin Dirty imo.

  

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