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BNueve
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"A-F-R-O POLO FEAT. PHAROAHE MONCH- SWARM!"


  

          

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Lesson gonna hate for no reason...but GOOD FUCKING LORD!!!
Jul 19th 2016
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OOOOOOOOOOOOOH-WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! FLAMES!!!
Jul 19th 2016
2
that MFer...
Jul 19th 2016
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RE: A-F-R-O POLO FEAT. PHAROAHE MONCH- SWARM!
Jul 19th 2016
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Superrappin'
Jul 19th 2016
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whoa.
Jul 19th 2016
6
RE: damn
Jul 19th 2016
7
Pharoahe paying homage to the top 5 rappers of all time.
Jul 20th 2016
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jesus
Jul 20th 2016
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rapped Pharoahe's lyrics before hearing the joint
Jul 21st 2016
10
incredible track, best monch has sounded in years and marco
Aug 06th 2016
11
That Sunshine and Flowers track gets the side eye...
Aug 06th 2016
12
dope
Aug 06th 2016
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RE: A-F-R-O POLO FEAT. PHAROAHE MONCH- SWARM!
Aug 06th 2016
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Nah...his output hasn't matched his skill imo
Aug 06th 2016
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Madness...
Aug 06th 2016
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      that being said...
Aug 07th 2016
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      His albums have still been lacking though
Aug 07th 2016
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           I agree with that assesment
Aug 07th 2016
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                Top 5 imo requires more output than Monch or GZA
Aug 07th 2016
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                     nah, top 5 for me is skill...
Aug 08th 2016
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                     well that's a drastically flawed way to look at it
Aug 08th 2016
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                          Huh? Man, at some point
Aug 09th 2016
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                               I didn't say having Monch top 5 was flawed...
Aug 09th 2016
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                     how much?
Aug 08th 2016
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                          it's not about quantity though
Aug 08th 2016
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                               Word
Aug 09th 2016
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                                    Monch and Marco should do an album.
Aug 09th 2016
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                                         RE: Monch and Marco should do an album.
Aug 09th 2016
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Agreed
Aug 09th 2016
27
gotdamn monche is a monster
Aug 08th 2016
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Orbit_Established
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1. "Lesson gonna hate for no reason...but GOOD FUCKING LORD!!!"
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2. "OOOOOOOOOOOOOH-WEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! FLAMES!!!"
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howardlloyd
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3. "that MFer..."
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can rap boy

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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Johnny
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4. "RE: A-F-R-O POLO FEAT. PHAROAHE MONCH- SWARM!"
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damn pharoahe monch wow

  

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Garhart Poppwell
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5. "Superrappin'"
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MaxPtah
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6. "whoa."
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This is a fucking problem...


flames...

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rmcphedr
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7. "RE: damn"
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i mean, they both killed it. but pharoahe? SHEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

  

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8. "Pharoahe paying homage to the top 5 rappers of all time."
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He spit hot fiyah.

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rmcphedr
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9. "jesus"
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A panic and heroin addict
Sicker than Mr.Robot
Anakin Sky-walking
Annamma animal on the mic
Cannibal sidewalk protesting fighting for his mechanical
Rights, publishing, in my fucking mechanical riots
Swarm, west african killer bee abilities
A martyr with modern day smart bombs
Armed with Kevlar body armor
That's a part of my particle melting artillery
Kidnap the president's daughters without a plan
Brrat!
Clap at the Klu Klutz Klan and hack hillary
And all this while I was getting head service
From my personal server
Shit she should not have been
On HER personal server
Cherry picking nicking nipples playing contra
With Jane Fonda now that's a triple entendre
Pharoahe A-Actually Mastered the supernatural
Strike you out like Satchel
Then I'll clap at you in a tabernacle
Clack a statue wrapping Matthews backwards
If you're attacking A-F-R-O
High-jack a cracker jackass in a ransom if he's
Asking for cash flow
Fascist radical bastard with a beard
It would be casted as Castro
Attacking the assassin with a spear
Put my actions out on these assholes
You gotta be kidding me you're forbidding
A battle of god when he got a gas mask on
Got a gas mask gas mask on we swarm.....

  

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High Society
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10. "rapped Pharoahe's lyrics before hearing the joint"
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thought the flow would be different, faster.

dope song none the less but felt like Pharoahe's verse coulda been more enjoyable with a more attacking delivery.

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Hellyeah
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11. "incredible track, best monch has sounded in years and marco"
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polo is doing his best jake one impression here

the whole EP is fantastic..this kid afro is a star

  

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12. "That Sunshine and Flowers track gets the side eye..."
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13. "dope"
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Monch, crazy

  

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14. "RE: A-F-R-O POLO FEAT. PHAROAHE MONCH- SWARM!"
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Someday I hope Monch gets his due credit...top 5 all time...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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15. "Nah...his output hasn't matched his skill imo"
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16. "Madness..."
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Completely disagree...Cat been doing it forever, since the days of Organized...stays sharp...so many dope cuts...longevity, creative, messages, battle raps, concepts, even concept albums...his willingness to speak on mental health in the black community is commendable given the taboo nature of the topic in the community...an MC's MC...just one example of his next type ish...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acUoJ-GP37g

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17. "that being said..."
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...top 5 is a little hard to crack

  

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18. "His albums have still been lacking though"
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He is without a doubt one of the best skilled MC and he has covered topics but his overall productions choice and his songs just don't always click...

  

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19. "I agree with that assesment"
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but it opens up a discussion IMO, with top 5 everyone has certain criteria

for example, if someone told me GZA was in their top 5, dude isn't in mine, but I can respect that because despite the fact that his solo career outside of Liquid Swordz isn't all that, he has LS and was a part of Wu classics etc

Monch isn't in my top 5, but when I look at the OK albums (Stress is a 5/5 classic to me) plus his first solo album (even though I enjoyed desire as well) I can see how someone could have him up there....

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20. "Top 5 imo requires more output than Monch or GZA"
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And to me, Monch has nothing close to Liquid Swords

  

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22. "nah, top 5 for me is skill..."
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thats it, thats all...

and Monche is definitely in the convo for my top 5.

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24. "well that's a drastically flawed way to look at it"
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*shrugs*

  

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26. "Huh? Man, at some point"
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You really do need to fall back and let
people have their opinions.

I don't fault you for not having Monch
in your top 5, but if you can't see/accept
that someone else might...damn man
I'm not even sure what to say.

No one is "flawed" for having Monch in
their top 5....what a strange thing to say.

It's not even close to flawed- it's not even
an uncommon opinion.

Different tastes for different people
at some point.

For instance, I'd take Monch's catelog over
AZ and OC hands down.

I don't expect you to agree, but neither is
even close in my opinion...

In fact, is guess the majority of rap
fans would have Monch above your
boys.

Neither side is flawed though, c'mon...

  

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29. "I didn't say having Monch top 5 was flawed..."
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I said only basing it on skill was flawed.

I'm not mad at anyone for having Monch there.

I simply was just stating my opinion on why *I* don't have him there.

  

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23. "how much?"
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Mon Aug-08-16 09:54 PM by Kosa12

  

          

I'd disagree, arguing the classic quality>quantity angle, but I'm curious, because Monch has put out a good number of albums, 4 solo and 3 with OK. Of course I don't think they are all good......lol

I mean if Nas only released Illmatic and It Was Written....then retired from rap, he would probably still be somewhere in my top 5.....that is not to say Monch is as good as Nas or to say that the rest of Nas' catalogue didn't influence my ranking of him...but yeah

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25. "it's not about quantity though"
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It's about the quality of your output.

Nothing Monch has done has really hit on that high of a level to me.

He's got a bunch of C+/B- work when his skill level is an A+.

He just can't consistently put together quality songs for the course of an entire album.

He always finds a way to add some suspect shit to his music whether its in the form of a concept, lyrics, hook, or production.

Something is always off and its more frustrating with him because his skill level is so high.

  

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28. "Word"
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Tue Aug-09-16 01:07 AM by Kosa12

  

          

I referred to quantity because you specifically mentioned "more output", but I totally get what your saying now. For everything after Internal Affairs, I agree with your points. Stress is a top 10 hip hop album of all time for me though.

To be honest, I think Monch really needs to sit down and do an album with one producer. I think that would give his projects the focus/consistency that they have lacked in recent times. I'd love to hear a Monch/El-P collab...

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30. "Monch and Marco should do an album."
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I believe we had this conversation before on here about the El-P collabo and I think that is an awful choice for Monch.

When Monch goes the darker route that is when he loses me. El-P's production would just inspire more "butt-fuck MCs" lines and songs like "Rape" which is when I absolutely hate Monch.

Monch is much better when he keeps it soulful or just on some straight boom bap type shit in my opinion.

  

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BNueve
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31. "RE: Monch and Marco should do an album."
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I would LOVE to hear a Marco & Monch album. Every track they've done together works. Make it happen!

I agree with most of your points as well regarding Monch and his solo albums. Always has a bunch of duds in between great songs.

  

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27. "Agreed"
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>Someday I hope Monch gets his due credit...top 5 all time...

  

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21. "gotdamn monche is a monster"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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