2. "Man I have a lot of respect for those 404 guys" In response to Reply # 0
After running out and getting one myself, sticking to making everything out of it is tough work. You gotta really love what you do to stick to it like that.
4. "pretty sure ohbliv's just 404 and a multitrack" In response to Reply # 3
i highly recommend gordymichael too, he does the same but has incorporated some non-sample stuff into his work....he always lists what he uses on his bandcamp
speaking of which, i need a multitrack myself....i made a few 404 beats straight out of the box to cassette and only a couple were servicable but i think a multitrack could help
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I'm going to see if my local spot has the vinyl after work as they DID get 1 copy of Dibiase's album last month (the first release in this Fat Beats series), which I instantly purchased. If not, I'll roll with bandcamp.
What I listened to sounded good, especially a couple of joints on the latter half of the album. STILL say (*ducks*) some of his beats, as soulfully sexy as they are, can go on a little too long for my tastes, but he's nice with it and home state so I'll support. Everything I have from him so far has been digital copies so it'll be nice to have a physical copy of something from him.
__ I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!
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i kinda feel you on that minor criticism, the first beat on this joint is ILL but it does clock in at a good few minutes....nice tho in a cipher id imagine
i really want bliv to do a project with someone bigger (& frankly, better) than Nickelus F
shit, i could hear NASIR ripping some of blivs tracks
he has had a few non-cassette physical releases but all i own are the cassettes, got a nice little collection of his (got a Dark Twaine tape too) including the rare & long out of print cassette only (no digi even) FREEKBEAT
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15. "I think is was solid but forgettable" In response to Reply # 0
And it's a shame because I can feel the talent that this guy has throughout this tape, but I have some issues with it:
1. Like other have said: some of these tracks run a little too long. If you aren't deliberately making an "instrumentals" release or adding variation throughout, you need to cut it down to 1:30 to 2 minutes at most. He doesn't do enough there to warrant some of the lengths of these
2. I don't walk away from this knowing this guy's sound or style. I mean it seems to be firmly entrenched in the 404 style of filtered loops that guys like Knx and such are known for, but whereas I feel like I know a Knxwledge beat or a Samiyam beat when I hear one, I don't know an Ohbliv beat from the rest.
Otherwise, there's some some real talent here and I wish he brought his A-game to a release like this where it exposes who he is to a lot of us who don't digest bandcamp/soundcloud like some hardcore fans do. It should have been more carefully crafted and this felt like he played it too safe.
16. "i'm gonna try not to stan this post up but..." In response to Reply # 15
let me just say for his fans...what you're criticizing him for is either WHY we are big fans of his music (the raw soul of his sound, regardless if he's chopping jazz or boogie) or what you're saying (about not hearing a specific sound or style in his beats) is completely off base
like, i think dude has one of the most unique original and recognizable styles in...the world really...
i think he's leagues better than knx (no dis to knx intended)
but i think maybe he just makes the music he likes to make, he's built a very solid and loyal fan base, and he's also been doing it consistently and well for several years now (i posted here in like 2011 thinking i was late on him myself)
i don't think that every instrumental artist has to prove that they can do "more than just loops"...i think there's a very real place and market for a dude who makes very well crafted but repetitive beats...it's kinda how hip-hop started musically and there is a long tradition of hypnotic repetitiveness in MUSIC, particularly a lot of spiritual incantations from various cultures, period. for folks like me we need a dude like this to drop these kind of beats, they're like medicine to me honestly...
now if you want to hear dude getting even more "basic" with it:
the thing about your post is that it brings up a frustration i've long had with the expectations of fans for "instrumental hip-hop" and really rap in general...that dope samples/chops/filters/drums are "not enough" anymore...i used to let it get to me but really, that's why dudes like ohbliv garner a following and a loyal one at that ...they give us what we need and what many are trying to write out of the game...
for every Oddisee that keeps adding stuff to his beats with every new project (and we love him for it)there is a dude like bliv that doesn't feel the need to switch it up and sticks with what he and we loved about hip hop music in the first place (while still sounding wholly unique and original)
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18. "RE: i'm gonna try not to stan this post up but..." In response to Reply # 16
> >i think he's leagues better than knx (no dis to knx intended) >
Just interested in what you say and wondered in what way is Ohbliv "leagues better"? No snark, just wondering because I think Knx has a lot more variation to his work and I find what he does (even with the joints I don't really fuck with) incredible to listen to because they always have interesting elements to them and a lot of originality.
19. "Circling back to this post." In response to Reply # 16
I've just about digested all of the stuff you included as well as all of the work on his bandcamp: https://ohbliv.bandcamp.com/
And I gotta say it's starting to make a lot of sense to me. I was really a fan of the tape you sent that was like pause-record stuff, I'm really big on minimal when it comes to instrumental hip hop.
He truly is a generational talent and seems to have that Madlib/Dilla/Pete Rock work ethic.
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