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dula dibiasi
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"drake - views"


  

          

have at it.

"Keep the Family Close" (prod. Maneesh)
"9" (prod. 40, Boi-1da & Brian Alexander Morgan)
"U With Me?" (prod. 40 & Kanye West)
"Feel No Ways" (prod. Jordan Ullman of Majiid Jordan)
"Hype" (prod. Boi-1da, nineteen85 & Beat Bully)
"Weston Road Flows" (prod. 40)
"Redemption" (prod. 40)
"With You" f. PARTYNEXTDOOR (prod. Murda Beatz)
"Faithful" f. Pimp C & dvsn (prod. 40, Boi-1da & nineteen85)
"Still Here" (prod. Daxz & 40)
"Controlla" f. Popcaan (prod. Boi-1da, Supa Dups & Allen Ritter)
"One Dance" f. Kyle & Wizkid (prod. nineteen85, 40 & WizKid)
"Grammys" f. Future (prod. 40, Southside, Cardo & Yung Exclusive)
"Childs Play" (prod. 40)
"Pop Style" (prod. Sevn Thomas & Frank Dukes)
"Too Good" f. Rihanna (prod. nineteen85)
"Summers Over" (prod. Maneesh)
"Fire & Desire" (prod. 40)
"Views" (prod. Maneesh)
"Hotline Bling" (prod. nineteen85)

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RE: drake - views
Apr 29th 2016
1
Really enjoying it so far.
Apr 29th 2016
2
i wonder why popcaan wasnt on Controlla
Apr 29th 2016
3
This is a surprisingly and disappointingly awful album
Apr 29th 2016
4
yeah, this is the first drake album i've skipped through
Apr 29th 2016
5
Man people LOVE them some Sturgill Simpson huh
Apr 29th 2016
8
      yea I dunno, I love him and especially the new album.
Apr 29th 2016
9
           I'll check it out and let you know - thanks.
May 02nd 2016
33
           that was excellent.
May 14th 2016
48
This is the dude who thought Kendrick wasn't on HIS level?? Lol. nm
Apr 29th 2016
6
Bwahahahahahaha! For real.
Apr 29th 2016
7
      I thought it would at least have stronger hooks than this.
Apr 29th 2016
10
           I think that Rihanna song might be the worst of the bunch.
Apr 29th 2016
11
           'With You' for starters...that's a no-brainer club hit.
Apr 29th 2016
21
ain't nobody going to listen to a 20 tracks album nowadays
Apr 29th 2016
12
confused honestly
Apr 29th 2016
13
anybody see the digital booklet?
Apr 29th 2016
14
yeah, the digital booklet is borderline self-parody.
Apr 29th 2016
15
this album suffers badly from the absence of any experimentation...
Apr 29th 2016
16
      you know what else...
Apr 29th 2016
17
           Only ONE thing surprises me about this album.
Apr 29th 2016
18
                agreed.
Apr 29th 2016
19
                Drake's usually been good for some "anthems"
Apr 29th 2016
20
this one?
May 02nd 2016
31
never been a huge fan
Apr 30th 2016
22
I would maybe like to hear an instrumental version of this
May 03rd 2016
39
It's straight for a rainy sunday like today...
May 01st 2016
23
people commenting that this album is too safe don't get it.
May 01st 2016
24
But he does indeed claim to be the #1 hip-hop artist. For example...
May 01st 2016
25
Or the whole "I can go conscious and take all your fans"
May 01st 2016
26
Your point would be more valid if "If You're Reading This..." didnt happ...
May 01st 2016
27
      Agreed on pretty much all fronts
May 02nd 2016
29
           good point to add
May 02nd 2016
30
this album reminds me of 'encore' by eminem.
May 02nd 2016
28
Lol the one where he became a parody of himself?
May 03rd 2016
36
said something similiar on twitter.
May 03rd 2016
40
RE: the sequencing is the problem...
May 02nd 2016
32
gonna try this...
May 03rd 2016
34
man how you not gonna post your tracklist lol
May 03rd 2016
37
yeah the sequencing is a mess...lets see your tracklist man
May 03rd 2016
35
post your tracklist.
May 03rd 2016
41
Reordered Views
May 04th 2016
43
      still too many tracks
May 14th 2016
46
Here are the tracks that are rap songs: 3, 5, 6, 13, 14, 15, 19
May 03rd 2016
38
Haha.
May 03rd 2016
42
The Independent: 'Rarely has one man moaned quite so much'
May 04th 2016
44
The Lesson in 'Drake dropped a garbage album' non-shocka.
May 14th 2016
45
i like the album, but One Dance is a horrible hit song.
May 14th 2016
47
10 years from now
May 15th 2016
49
Man, nah
May 15th 2016
50
You know what man...
May 15th 2016
51
      RE: You know what man...
May 15th 2016
52
      lulz
May 16th 2016
53
      RE: You know what man...
May 19th 2016
54

Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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1. "RE: drake - views"
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A few joints on here. This def ain't for me. I'll check in with my lil bro and younger cousins to see what they think

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Steve O Tron v2
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2. "Really enjoying it so far."
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"Weston Road Flows" is an early favorite.

  

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3. "i wonder why popcaan wasnt on Controlla"
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i made it about halfway through the album. too much singing.

  

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Tiger Woods
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4. "This is a surprisingly and disappointingly awful album"
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Where's the vigor of "If Youre Reading This" ?
All of the energy, flows, memorable hooks...what is this shit?

Maybe it's because I've been listening to Sturgill Simpson and Beyoncé all week (tight sounds, big hooks)...

Almost every one of these songs is a throwaway. The hallmark of this guy was songwriting, but there's no songs here, just drifting pissing and moaning and the SINGING ugh.

This is such a disappointment.

  

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GROOVEPHI
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5. "yeah, this is the first drake album i've skipped through"
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a couple joints are keepers, but the others i really gotta go back and listen to again. first listen, joints aint hitting.

  

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8. "Man people LOVE them some Sturgill Simpson huh"
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>Maybe it's because I've been listening to Sturgill Simpson

My friend talked me into going to see him in concert last year in Boston (I agreed so long as he'd come to PRhyme with me the next nite) and it was one of the most awful experiences of my life. I *hate* twangy country music and he is the epitome of that.

So whatever, not for me, sounded just like every other country singer I've ever heard. But a couple people are into that stuff, pretty standard.

But his new album just came out or whatever and legit EVERYBODY is raving about it. So many people I wouldn't have expected included.

Just weird to me. Maybe it's just because of how "standard twang country" it sounds to my ears but I just can't understand why he stands out from the rest of the people who sound just like him. Haha.

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9. "yea I dunno, I love him and especially the new album. "
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In recent years he'd still play stuff from his first album which is definitely more twangy. He'll likely phase most of that out when he starts touring this new album.

If your mind is made up that's cool, but give this recent performance on The Daily Show a chance if you can. It's definitely not standard "twangy" stuff

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/pu2tn3/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-exclusive---sturgill-simpson----call-to-arms-

  

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Brew
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33. "I'll check it out and let you know - thanks."
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Also if I came off critical of your tastes I didn't mean to. Clearly I'm the minority. Just meant to express how perplexing it was to me that this one dude stood out so much to so many people. Obviously there's something I'm missing so I'm actually really interested to check out this performance and give the new album a spin.

I'll report back.


>In recent years he'd still play stuff from his first album
>which is definitely more twangy. He'll likely phase most of
>that out when he starts touring this new album.
>
>If your mind is made up that's cool, but give this recent
>performance on The Daily Show a chance if you can. It's
>definitely not standard "twangy" stuff
>
>http://www.cc.com/video-clips/pu2tn3/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-exclusive---sturgill-simpson----call-to-arms-

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48. "that was excellent."
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heard of dude, never heard his music. that was very nice.

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6. "This is the dude who thought Kendrick wasn't on HIS level?? Lol. nm"
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7. "Bwahahahahahaha! For real."
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You would've thought after TRAB shook up the game, Drake was gonna wanna come correct.

Nope.

This shit is really bad.
Lol.
I'm kinda stunned.

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10. "I thought it would at least have stronger hooks than this."
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Don't even know what will hit, beyond One Dance...Controlla? The Rihanna collab?

To spend years on this project and come out with something so bland and unfocused is just weird to me. The mixtape was better. Even the tape with Future was better.

  

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11. "I think that Rihanna song might be the worst of the bunch."
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21. "'With You' for starters...that's a no-brainer club hit."
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>Don't even know what will hit, beyond One Dance...Controlla?
>The Rihanna collab?
>
>To spend years on this project and come out with something so
>bland and unfocused is just weird to me. The mixtape was
>better. Even the tape with Future was better.

I'm confused by the disappointment in this post. Production-wise, Views sounds like a typical Drake album lol

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12. "ain't nobody going to listen to a 20 tracks album nowadays"
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theres some good stuff on there...but the fillers are overwhelming

  

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13. "confused honestly"
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Drake is in that Curren$y, Jay-Z, or Wiz Khalifa category of having that handful of subjects he never gets away from, this nigga really is making the same album over & over.

I see the Stans sticking up for it of course, and it's not awful, background driving music, but this nigga is making the same album.

I think it's funny how some people think he bit J.Cole's album cover this time around, but Cole held that album down solo and took a real picture at his actual home. Drake got the photoshopped cover, a few features, and sounding like he's following trends this time around.

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14. "anybody see the digital booklet?"
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contrived much?

i didn't really connect with anything on here, he's done all these types of songs before.

<- way before hashtags.

  

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dula dibiasi
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15. "yeah, the digital booklet is borderline self-parody."
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16. "this album suffers badly from the absence of any experimentation..."
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like there's not a single 'rough edge'... not a single idea that isn't polished and processed for your enjoyment.
no challenges to convention.

and as an unabashed POP album, there's very few smash hits on here to my ear.

i mean that fetty wap album was a straight up POP album... every song was swinging for a homerun.

this joint? ehh...

he's done all these songs before and he's retreading ground.

some experimentation would have went a long way to hold peoples attention, even if the overall direction of the songs was the same.

i'm sure this will sell millions of records and get flawless reviews regardless of this, because 21st century, right?

<- way before hashtags.

  

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17. "you know what else..."
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and this is a major problem in today's rap music in general... but here especially.

the effects, plugins and processing take precedence over the actual fucking notes played.

like yo, it's cool you reverbed and filtered the shit out that f# note, it still doesn't change the fact that you're only playing one goddamn note and holding it for 3 seconds or something.

like music of the past had more intricate phrasing because holding one note for a whole bar was... boring.

despite whatever effects and shit you could add to smooth out that one note.

this album doesn't have a single riff or anything that is memorable, just smoothed out, filtered pablum.

even tlop had some structured ideas for memorable riffs (wolves, fml, real friends)

this shit is all reverbed, airy vapor...
the same novice sequencing of the same familiar notes played in the most basic way possible.

<- way before hashtags.

  

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18. "Only ONE thing surprises me about this album."
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The contrived persona? The over-polished sound? The lack of any experimentation or even, as you correctly identify, much musicality at all?

That's what I expected.

But what I also expected was HOOKS. And I don't hear that. I don't even know what's gonna hit off this beyond One Dance. Maybe Controlla, or the Riri joint if there's a video, but i don't know...maybe this is the beginning of the end for the Six God lol.

  

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19. "agreed."
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a strong hook can prop up an otherwise weak song... and yeah, where dey at doe? © t.i.

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20. "Drake's usually been good for some "anthems""
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Even though I was never a fan, there was always a "Started From The Bottom," a "Worst Behavior" a "Headlines," a "HYFR" that niggas would be shouting in the club.
I didn't hear one of those one here.
Did anyone else?

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31. "this one?"
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>contrived much?
>
>i didn't really connect with anything on here, he's done all
>these types of songs before.

are these the photos from it? haha, that's hilarious as are these captions. http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/29/11537836/drake-views-digital-booklet-memes

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22. "never been a huge fan"
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but this is kinda garbage.

all the songs sound the same.

If you played a joint off this one
maybe not If You're..
but any joints off the 2-3 before it??

I probably couldn't tell which album the song came from.

I know it's cool to build a signature sound
and in turn, MANY people have bit that signature sound

he needs to be doing something else. getting outside production
and not have 40 work on it.

just bland and snoozy.

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39. "I would maybe like to hear an instrumental version of this"
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while laying on the couch with my girl when its raining out.

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23. "It's straight for a rainy sunday like today..."
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...but definitely at the bottom of his catalogue.

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24. "people commenting that this album is too safe don't get it."
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drake doesn't need to impress anyone, and he isn't gunning for GOAT emcee. he's already been exposed as someone who uses writers. there's no sense in him trying to make an experimental album.

this album has been described in some places as a "victory lap," which i think is accurate. this album is drake and 40 playing in the sandbox that they created and have utilized to ascend to the top of the game.

divided we fall

  

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25. "But he does indeed claim to be the #1 hip-hop artist. For example..."
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...remember his "I know good and well Kendrick is not murdering me in any format...The one guy I compare myself to is Kanye West."

  

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26. "Or the whole "I can go conscious and take all your fans""
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Or the fact that he repeatedly says throughout his albums how he's the greatest. Trust, he wants to be recognized as one of the GOATs. It burns him up that he's not the critical darling Kendrick is.

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27. "Your point would be more valid if "If You're Reading This..." didnt happ..."
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But it did, and on it Drake used new flows for the first time, crafted memorable hooks, and successfully found a way to marry his "poor me" navel-gazing half with his anthem- master half. You can hear his enthusiasm in his vocal delivery on "If You're Reading This..."; it sounds like he even knows it's fresh and good.

"Views" is a step back. Sonically this is 40's least inspired work. Lyrically, it's Drake's laziest. These songs sound like retreads from the "Take Care" era, like the shit you'd expect to hear on the Target-exclusive disc for that album. And I think the biggest shame is not only that these songs sound like lesser versions of songs we first heard 5 years ago, but that he also led us to believe he was going somewhere else the last time we heard from him. You are correct in saying that he's earned the right to take a victory lap, but that's just lazy on his part.

  

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29. "Agreed on pretty much all fronts"
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He clearly was almost entirely reliant on Quentin. He had this album in the works before If You're Reading This dropped, and yet someone he doesn't even come close matching it's quality. It's just weird. Probably also doesn't help from my perspective that I really don't care for Singing Drake in the slightest.

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30. "good point to add"
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>He clearly was almost entirely reliant on Quentin.

I doubt that kid wrote ALL of "If You're Reading This..." but "VIEWS" can easily lead one to believe that was the case.

And I also have very little use for singing Drake.

  

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28. "this album reminds me of 'encore' by eminem."
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where he's been riding the same formulas and people are collectively just bored as hell.

<- way before hashtags.

  

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36. "Lol the one where he became a parody of himself?"
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lol

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40. "said something similiar on twitter."
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Drake at one time was King of the features and hooks on others joints.

his albums though... aside from If You're Reading...

he suffers from Eminem Angry syndrome.

Drake suffers from sad, lonely, and suspicious of women syndrome.


like someone above said... it's now acceptable to wonder how much
the Quentin kid REALLY wrote on If You're Reading because
Drake was taking his game to new heights and playing ball
with a new confidence that had him scoring buckets.

he back to being broke jumper Lebron.

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32. "RE: the sequencing is the problem..."
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I listened to it one time with the published sequence before going into a&r/exec producer mode. The way I have it works better for old folks like me. And there's a gang of songs I like now. I front loaded it with rapping, used redemption as the bridge into reggae/singing drake, and closed it out with some more rappin.

There's no way views should've be the Intro to the album. It's like they lost their mind on the sequencing. And burying hotline bling at the end? I don't understand. I get that everyone has heard the song a lot but cmon Aubrey.

Reorderthing the album 'unlocked' it for me. I'm enjoying it. Dvsn as Drake's mid-90s r&b cover artist/dream come true works out too.



>
>"Keep the Family Close" (prod. Maneesh)
>"9" (prod. 40, Boi-1da & Brian Alexander Morgan)
>"U With Me?" (prod. 40 & Kanye West)
>"Feel No Ways" (prod. Jordan Ullman of Majiid Jordan)
>"Hype" (prod. Boi-1da, nineteen85 & Beat Bully)
>"Weston Road Flows" (prod. 40)
>"Redemption" (prod. 40)
>"With You" f. PARTYNEXTDOOR (prod. Murda Beatz)
>"Faithful" f. Pimp C & dvsn (prod. 40, Boi-1da & nineteen85)
>"Still Here" (prod. Daxz & 40)
>"Controlla" f. Popcaan (prod. Boi-1da, Supa Dups & Allen
>Ritter)
>"One Dance" f. Kyle & Wizkid (prod. nineteen85, 40 & WizKid)
>"Grammys" f. Future (prod. 40, Southside, Cardo & Yung
>Exclusive)
>"Childs Play" (prod. 40)
>"Pop Style" (prod. Sevn Thomas & Frank Dukes)
>"Too Good" f. Rihanna (prod. nineteen85)
>"Summers Over" (prod. Maneesh)
>"Fire & Desire" (prod. 40)
>"Views" (prod. Maneesh)
>"Hotline Bling" (prod. nineteen85)

  

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34. "gonna try this..."
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37. "man how you not gonna post your tracklist lol "
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LETS SEE IT

  

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35. "yeah the sequencing is a mess...lets see your tracklist man"
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41. "post your tracklist."
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I'll give it another shot before I lose interest in it forever lol.

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43. "Reordered Views"
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Here's what I have so far:

Rappin Drake (Duh Ha Duh Ha)
1. "Views" (prod. Maneesh) - It's the Jay-Z album intro song.
2. 10 Bands Added here
3. "9" (prod. 40, Boi-1da & Brian Alexander Morgan)
4. "Hype" (prod. Boi-1da, nineteen85 & Beat Bully)
5. Summer Sixteen added here
6. "Pop Style" (prod. Sevn Thomas & Frank Dukes) - Swapped it out for the one with 'The Throne'. It makes the pool comments funnier from Summer Sixteen.

Relationships Drake
7. "Weston Road Flows" (prod. 40)
8. "Childs Play" (prod. 40)
9. "U With Me?" (prod. 40 & Kanye West)
10. "Redemption" (prod. 40)

Dancehall Drake
11. "Hotline Bling" (prod. nineteen85)
12. "Controlla" f. Popcaan (prod. Boi-1da, Supa Dups & Allen Ritter)
13. "Too Good" f. Rihanna (prod. nineteen85)
14. "One Dance" f. Kyle & Wizkid (prod. nineteen85, 40 & WizKid)
15. "With You" f. PARTYNEXTDOOR (prod. Murda Beatz)

Promises to get it right Drake
16. "Faithful" f. Pimp C & dvsn (prod. 40, Boi-1da & nineteen85)
17. "Summers Over" (prod. Maneesh)
18. "Fire & Desire" (prod. 40)
19. "Feel No Ways" (prod. Jordan Ullman of Majiid Jordan)
20. "Keep the Family Close" (prod. Maneesh)
21. "Still Here" (prod. Daxz & 40)

'Bonus' Track
>>"Grammys" f. Future (prod. 40, Southside, Cardo & Yung
>>Exclusive)

With this version, you could reasonably stop after Summers Over and have a whole album with nothing that you'd dramatically 'miss'. I only feel kinda weird about where Faithful is.

Redemption --> Hotline Bling makes both songs better for me. And it sets up all of the dancehall songs to 'work' better than they do separated.

>
>I listened to it one time with the published sequence before
>going into a&r/exec producer mode. The way I have it works
>better for old folks like me. And there's a gang of songs I
>like now. I front loaded it with rapping, used redemption as
>the bridge into reggae/singing drake, and closed it out with
>some more rappin.
>
>There's no way views should've be the Intro to the album. It's
>like they lost their mind on the sequencing. And burying
>hotline bling at the end? I don't understand. I get that
>everyone has heard the song a lot but cmon Aubrey.
>
>Reorderthing the album 'unlocked' it for me. I'm enjoying it.
>Dvsn as Drake's mid-90s r&b cover artist/dream come true works
>out too.
>
>
>
>>

>

  

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46. "still too many tracks"
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theres lots of fat that needs to be trimmed on there

  

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38. "Here are the tracks that are rap songs: 3, 5, 6, 13, 14, 15, 19"
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Auto-delete the rest.

EDIT: delete most of the rapping ones too.

  

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42. "Haha."
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>EDIT: delete most of the rapping ones too.

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44. "The Independent: 'Rarely has one man moaned quite so much'"
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http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/reviews/drake-views-album-review-rarely-has-one-man-moaned-quite-so-much-a7013171.html

Drake, Views - album review: 'Rarely has one man moaned quite so much'
Also Kacy & Clayton, Thomas Cohen and John Mayall’s Bluesbreakers

Drake - Views - Island - 2/5

Download this: Still Here; Hotline Bling

Drake’s latest offering isn’t improved by being heard straight after Anohni’s: rarely has one man moaned quite so much about so little. Over 80 interminable minutes, the Canadian rapper appears to find no satisfaction in anything at all: in the opener “Keep The Family Close”, he blubs about someone who “chose a side that wasn’t mine”, the first of an endless litany of autotuned complaints regarding his tiny world of rivals and girlfriends, the latter wooed and warned within virtually the same breath. It’s not completely without merit - some of the b

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45. "The Lesson in 'Drake dropped a garbage album' non-shocka."
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Men lie, women lie, numbers don't. c. Jay Z.

  

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47. "i like the album, but One Dance is a horrible hit song."
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i mean, it's his first #1, congrats on that, but it is so generic, beat wise and chorus wise. i mean, that chorus is HORRIBLE (then again, this is the same dude who made "i know when that hotline bling" a hot line.)

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49. "10 years from now"
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when Drake's on his Jay status where he's culturally relevant but not a factor based on his quality of music, we're gonna look back & realize this was the album that marked his turning point from great music to living off reputation with moments of greatness.

I fuck with the dancehall/tropical/reggae/etc. vibe he's incorporating. It's new for him & those tended to be the best hooks/"songs" on here.

But the rapping was subpar. it sounded like joints that didn't make IYRTITL/WATTBA. There weren't any "hits" or super memorable parts that you'll be singing in the club or songs where he was really killin a verse.

And then the singing sections sounded like Take Care leftovers.

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50. "Man, nah"
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Jay got famous first and foremost for rapping well on hit songs. He's definitely mostly famous for being famous now, but 99-03? Nah dogg. The music brought him to the party - dumb "mogul" myth making and marrying Beyonce kept him there.

Drake is cool. In fact I loved "Take Care" and last year's "If You're Reading This" was my favorite album of 2015...and he's definitely as big now as Jay was in 2000 I'll give you that. But Drake is probably the most deliberate rap star we've ever seen. I mean who knows if he even writes his own songs, right? That's evidence of someone who's obsessed with perception. He wants to be everything to everybody, and that's ok too because he's actually pretty good at everything (great on SNL last night) But all Jay wanted to be from 99-03 was the most badass rapper in the world - and he was.

Drake is good but he doesn't have a Can I Live. Period. No Dynasty Intro, no Heart of the City, no So Ghetto. Drake's Tuscan Leather is awesome; U Don't Know is an earthquake. Even Drake's smashes don't compare to Hov's honestly - Drake would sell a testicle for an anthem as unanimously approved of as Big Pimpin.

  

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51. "You know what man..."
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I think I read your post wrong. You weren't saying Jay didn't make great music, just that he isn't known for his music today. And I would actually tend to agree with that. My bad.

  

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52. "RE: You know what man..."
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>I think I read your post wrong. You weren't saying Jay didn't
>make great music, just that he isn't known for his music
>today. And I would actually tend to agree with that. My bad.

It is the innanet man! Go down with the ship of your original argument like a confed flag waver! JUST KIDDING!

With rap, the 'I refuse to like popular stuff...especially if other people like it' contingent will stand on top of tall items, scream/type really hard, and try to muffle at least some of the love that almost anyone gets before they get super big. That or the social and other media will try to catch a dude doing/saying/wearing/not wearing/thinking/standing by someone else doing something goofy to take him down a notch. It really is crazy.

AKA I don't know if any act can get to where Jay was in the late 90s. And even he ate some hatero's when he was clearly a machine who could do most things any rap cat would've wanted to do. Nas came from a borderline career deathbed and gave the contrarians a leg to stand on with the Jay hate. Now, it doesn't even take a murderous Ether. The innanet alone will hate a dude down a notch.

Maybe I'm overstating all of this since Drake is the star rapper, J. Cole is rich, Fewcha is the underground/mixtape master, and Kendrick is the (old) people's champ. Maybe that is it...there's more 'lanes' than ever but it is damn near impossible to have a whole freeway. Even a cat like Curren$y almost messed up when he came from out of his cave and tried his hand at having an 'on the table' hit or two. Now he's back giving away basic but solid work and I'm guessing he's fine.

  

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53. "lulz"
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i was reading your first response like, 'what does this dude think he's replying to?'

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54. "RE: You know what man..."
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>I think I read your post wrong. You weren't saying Jay didn't
>make great music, just that he isn't known for his music
>today. And I would actually tend to agree with that. My bad.

ha, all good man.

Yea, I'd say Drake never got to Jay's level as an mc but he had HITS. And love it/hate it, that plays into perception. And when you keep coming w/hits, you get that status.

But this feels like the first album where he is gonna get by on everything else but the music.

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