"it bothers me that mike dean is the only rap producer from the 90s..." Thu Apr-21-16 12:30 AM by P. Diddy
still getting major label credits in 2016.
not a knock on him, he was a good engineer on top of being a competent producer... but when people talk about knock-out 90's rap production, the in-house rap-a-lot shit isn't really the go-to reference.
and i'm not saying forgotten 90's dudes like self-service or ez elpee need to be in the OVO control room pronto or anything like that...
but it's crazy that people like erick sermon or dj quik are just sitting on the shelf.
they aren't gonna be around forever.
even though the music has changed, you really think they don't have any techniques in their repertoire to take your little orchestral string FL studio production up a notch (a la mike dean's role at GOOD)?
you really think somebody like just blaze couldn't up the energy on your songs arrangement?
and speaking of ghostwriter teams like the ones kanye and drake utilize, you really think somebody like rakim wouldn't have something to offer to your existing verses? no little tweaks or nothing? i mean how many rap catch phrases did dude coin? a dozen or more? think about it.
all these old rap artists who are too old to make any impact in their own music these days should definitely be getting credits behind the scenes sprucing things up.
it would make some of the music more interesting, less conventionally formulaic, and probably more palatable to old fucks like me.
4. "I'm tired of music by committee" In response to Reply # 0
But I understand, if you're going to do it, utilize the resources.
I think a lot of cats just get stuck in their style.
But probably a lot more accurately, a lot of cats realize the music industry ain't shit and hasn't provided anything long term, and ultimately they are better of in most any other industry. Even with that occasional placement on a major album, still not a decent living for someone raising a family.
5. "because Dean is a pianist first." In response to Reply # 0
all whom made your list are producers whose best work relies on derivative soundscapes (samples)
back in the 90s all you had to worry about was Aaron Fuchs.
now the teenagers of hip hop are now adults and inheriting their parents publishing (think Flo & Eddie's kid who was 15 when 3 feet high and rising came out---who let his parents know De La sampled them.---44 now, probably in a position in which they are just DYING for someone to sample their shit to get paid.
only people w a life raft are those who left comfort zone.
lot of them cats messed up by not embracing musicianship and musicians in the 90s (sans Quik & Dilla and a choice few)----least by 2016 if they were consistent in their practice to go full throttle (no samples) they would be in full bang out mode by now
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