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denny
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"RIP David Bowie"
Mon Jan-11-16 02:14 AM by mrhood75

          

Shit man

  

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Furiously looking for confirmation...
Jan 11th 2016
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Fuck.
Jan 11th 2016
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RIP
Jan 11th 2016
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Sadly, his son confirmed it. As did his business manager.
Jan 11th 2016
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This is really unbelievable
Jan 11th 2016
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WTH, come on now, no,please no...
Jan 11th 2016
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RIP
Jan 11th 2016
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Just bought Blackstar earlier today at Rasputins....
Jan 11th 2016
8
RIP,respect
Jan 11th 2016
9
There's a great doc about him called 5 years
Jan 11th 2016
10
Thanks!
Jan 11th 2016
11
great, entertaining documentary
Jan 11th 2016
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Thank you
Jan 11th 2016
29
So sad to hear this this morning!
Jan 11th 2016
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It was horrible waking up to this news today
Jan 11th 2016
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did not expect this at all
Jan 11th 2016
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I've seen you talk about him more around here than anyone else.
Jan 11th 2016
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      so hard to choose
Jan 11th 2016
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           please pretty please do that
Jan 12th 2016
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           ---
Jan 12th 2016
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           damn, hope you get around to doing this
Jan 18th 2016
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He went out with a bang. New album is great
Jan 11th 2016
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One of the greatest....
Jan 11th 2016
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Noooo
Jan 11th 2016
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dude was always so ahead of his time..
Jan 11th 2016
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Holy cow. Ashes to ashes, fun to funky.
Jan 11th 2016
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the god..r.i.p.
Jan 11th 2016
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Had a dream about him 2 nights ago
Jan 11th 2016
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RE: 'Fantastic Voyage' (1979)
Jan 11th 2016
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RIP To A Legend
Jan 11th 2016
26
this really was a downer, waking up
Jan 11th 2016
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RIP
Jan 11th 2016
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One of those cats I assumed would live forever :/
Jan 11th 2016
30
Really left me feeling empty today
Jan 11th 2016
31
Golden Years (Jeremy Sole remix)
Jan 11th 2016
32
INtl Space Station sings "Major Tom" (video)
Jan 11th 2016
33
RIP
Jan 11th 2016
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REST In POWER
Jan 11th 2016
35
Another reason to love Bowie.....
Jan 12th 2016
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And what's great about these things is he did it from a position of powe...
Jan 12th 2016
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RE: And what's great about these things is he did it from a position of ...
Jan 12th 2016
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That was beautiful
Jan 14th 2016
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suddenly i like '"Heroes"' more than i used to.
Jan 12th 2016
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"Planet Earth Is Blue And There’s Nothing I Can Do"
Jan 12th 2016
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my tribute (mix) to bowie..
Jan 13th 2016
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so this new album Blackstar is supposedly heavily influenced
Jan 13th 2016
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not supposedly, his producer admitted it
Jan 14th 2016
45
and that Blackstar record is niiiice....
Jan 18th 2016
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RIP - (young americans)
Jan 14th 2016
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greg tate piece on bowie and black music (swipe)
Jan 15th 2016
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That was fantastic read
Jan 15th 2016
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RE: greg tate piece on bowie and black music (swipe)
Jan 15th 2016
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Lovely.
Jan 18th 2016
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RE: RIP David Bowie
Jan 16th 2016
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mrhood75
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1. "Furiously looking for confirmation..."
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But it looks like his Fwcebook page, Twitter account, and The Hollywood Reporter are all reporting it. Apparently an 18 month battle with cancer. Fuck.

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LuccaTunes
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2. "Fuck."
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So soon after the new album.

He was one I thought who be around till he was 100.

Very sad.

But what a career...

  

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las raises
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3. "RIP"
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This is crazy news

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mrhood75
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4. "Sadly, his son confirmed it. As did his business manager. "
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It's being reported by just about everyone now as well. R.I.P.

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5. "This is really unbelievable"
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█▆▇▅▇█▇▆▄▁▃
Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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ceeq9
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6. "WTH, come on now, no,please no..."
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Mon Jan-11-16 02:28 AM by ceeq9

  

          

rest as only one as unique as you can rest.. with great dare.

  

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obsidianchrysalis
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7. "RIP"
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I'm still getting up on his career, but the fact that was able to reinvent himself speaks to his talent and skill.

RIP to a legend.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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natenate101
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8. "Just bought Blackstar earlier today at Rasputins...."
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Fucking gut punch.

  

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9. "RIP,respect"
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i like some of his material and respected his talent, however
the stand he took for more Black Artists being featured of MTV and the fact he played Soul train at a time when being White you had to have the goods to be on Soul train speaks volumes to me,

prayers go out to his family, friends and fans worldwide

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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denny
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10. "There's a great doc about him called 5 years"
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2973408/

I would guess that his legacy will be his ability to re-invent himself. This movie breaks down his career and artistry into 5 distinct phases/eras. All completely unique from each other. I had no idea that he was the first to put on Luther Vandross until I watched this movie. Anyways....I'd recommend it for anyone who's familiar with him but wants to learn more.

  

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11. "Thanks! "
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Sounds interesting. Gotta peep it.

  

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18. "great, entertaining documentary"
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extremely informative

  

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29. "Thank you"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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12. "So sad to hear this this morning!"
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RIP.

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13. "It was horrible waking up to this news today"
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Im a lifelong fan, this genuinely heartbreaking

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14. "did not expect this at all"
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Truly stunned, truly heartbroken. Not many artist/celebrity deaths have truly affected me --- this one strikes deep.

Need to spend a bit of time processing this.


-thebigfunk

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denny
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15. "I've seen you talk about him more around here than anyone else."
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What's your favorite album or era?

  

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25. "so hard to choose"
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Thinking I'll take a few days and then do an in memoriam post --- talk a bit about the music in-depth a bit. Sometimes I think the theatrics overshadowed his genuinely brilliant musical sensibilities, which is a shame --- and I love the theatrics, but for some they serve as a distraction (I think).

Shit, we could probably do a dedicated album-by-album string of posts and really dive deep...

Anyhow, I will say that the album I perhaps return to the most is Station to Station --- not always even sure why. That run of albums leading up to the Berlin trilogy has this energy that always threatens to run off the rails it's so damn frenetic, but it never does... like you are peering into some otherworld of music-making.

-thebigfunk

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39. "please pretty please do that"
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>Shit, we could probably do a dedicated album-by-album string
>of posts and really dive deep...

i miss that around here

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gnap.

  

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40. "---"
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>That run
>of albums leading up to the Berlin trilogy has this energy
>that always threatens to run off the rails it's so damn
>frenetic, but it never does... like you are peering into some
>otherworld of music-making.

http://www.citsu.ie/contentfiles/images/cocaine-300x200.jpg

fuck you.

  

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54. "damn, hope you get around to doing this"
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your posts are always quality man

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16. "He went out with a bang. New album is great "
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RIP to one of my favorite artists of all-time. Thank you OKP for really getting me into his music.

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17. "One of the greatest...."
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artists to EVER do it. The man hit the recording booth even when he knew he was dying. Bowie wasn't a rock star. He was a alien sent down to confound, astonish and entertain....

RIP.....Thin White Duke.....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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19. "Noooo "
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This sucks, just listening to new album.. RIP

  

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20. "dude was always so ahead of his time.."
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here's a quote of his from a 2002 nyt article..

"I don’t even know why I would want to be on a label in a few years, because I don’t think it’s going to work by labels and by distribution systems in the same way. The absolute transformation of everything that we ever thought about music will take place within 10 years, and nothing is going to be able to stop it. I see absolutely no point in pretending that it’s not going to happen. I’m fully confident that copyright, for instance, will no longer exist in 10 years, and authorship and intellectual property is in for such a bashing.

Music itself is going to become like running water or electricity. So it’s like, just take advantage of these last few years because none of this is ever going to happen again. You’d better be prepared for doing a lot of touring because that’s really the only unique situation that’s going to be left. It’s terribly exciting. But on the other hand it doesn’t matter if you think it’s exciting or not; it’s what’s going to happen."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/09/arts/david-bowie-21st-century-entrepreneur.html?pagewanted=all










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21. "Holy cow. Ashes to ashes, fun to funky."
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my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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22. "the god..r.i.p."
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23. "Had a dream about him 2 nights ago"
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After watching him play Andy Warhol in Basquiat... in which to no surprise he was amazing.

R.I.P.


werd.

  

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24. "RE: 'Fantastic Voyage' (1979)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tD6FayGPyw



"You have to laugh at the things that hurt you just to keep yourself in balance."
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26. "RIP To A Legend"
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This may be a bit morbid to note, but it's eerie how similar his passing is to J Dilla's. They both released their last works on their birthday, and then died three days later.


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27. "this really was a downer, waking up"
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and seeing someone talking about Bowie as if he were dead

and then you find out he actually is

I had no idea he was sick

  

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28. "RIP"
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30. "One of those cats I assumed would live forever :/"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

  

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31. "Really left me feeling empty today"
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Man was an idol of mine for my entire life. Was the first two live shows I ever saw. What a career he left though.

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32. "Golden Years (Jeremy Sole remix)"
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so dope.

RIP to the Thin White Duke.

https://soundcloud.com/jeremysole/bowie-goldenyears-jeremysoleremix

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33. "INtl Space Station sings "Major Tom" (video)"
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this video is a couple years old but its still fitting and very touching.

https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1043455372414183/

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34. "RIP"
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35. "REST In POWER"
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36. "Another reason to love Bowie....."
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Dude getting at MTV and veejay Mark Goodson for not playing black artists (remember how they fronted hard on Rick James' "Superfreak"). Bowie gave NO fucks calling them out as racist....


"David Bowie: “Why are there practically no blacks on the network?”

Mark Goodman: “We seem to be doing music that fits into what we want to play on MTV. The company is thinking in terms of narrowcasting.”

David Bowie: “There seem to be a lot of black artists making very good videos that I’m surprised aren’t being used on MTV.”

Mark Goodman: “We have to try and do what we think not only New York and Los Angeles will appreciate, but also Poughkeepsie or the Midwest. Pick some town in the Midwest which would be scared to death by… a string of other black faces, or black music. We have to play music we think an entire country is going to like, and certainly we’re a rock and roll station.”

David Bowie: “Don’t you think it’s a frightening predicament to be in?”

Mark Goodman:“Yeah, but no less so here than in radio.”

David Bowie: “Don’t say, ‘Well, it’s not me, it’s them.’ Is it not possible it should be a conviction of the station and of the radio stations to be fair… to make the media more integrated?”"

Video link of cringe-worthy interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssMZjic3Mzg

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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37. "And what's great about these things is he did it from a position of powe..."
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Dude could have kept with the status quo because the status quo had him eating very fucking well for over a decade at that point; he was still one of the biggest rock stars in the world.

That's what I love most about him; dude was flamboyant nuts crazy on stage...pure rockstar id.

Offstage, apparently a cool as fuck dude who would have a beer with anybody. By rock star standards dude's ego should have been construction truck big.

  

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38. "RE: And what's great about these things is he did it from a position of ..."
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>Dude could have kept with the status quo because the status
>quo had him eating very fucking well for over a decade at that
>point; he was still one of the biggest rock stars in the
>world.
>
>That's what I love most about him; dude was flamboyant nuts
>crazy on stage...pure rockstar id.
>
>Offstage, apparently a cool as fuck dude who would have a beer
>with anybody. By rock star standards dude's ego should have
>been construction truck big.


True Dat to all this^^^^^

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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46. "That was beautiful"
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>
>Dude getting at MTV and veejay Mark Goodson for not playing
>black artists (remember how they fronted hard on Rick James'
>"Superfreak"). Bowie gave NO fucks calling them out as
>racist....
>
>
>"David Bowie: “Why are there practically no blacks on the
>network?”
>
>Mark Goodman: “We seem to be doing music that fits into what
>we want to play on MTV. The company is thinking in terms of
>narrowcasting.”
>
>David Bowie: “There seem to be a lot of black artists making
>very good videos that I’m surprised aren’t being used on
>MTV.”
>
>Mark Goodman: “We have to try and do what we think not only
>New York and Los Angeles will appreciate, but also
>Poughkeepsie or the Midwest. Pick some town in the Midwest
>which would be scared to death by… a string of other black
>faces, or black music. We have to play music we think an
>entire country is going to like, and certainly we’re a rock
>and roll station.”
>
>David Bowie: “Don’t you think it’s a frightening
>predicament to be in?”
>
>Mark Goodman:“Yeah, but no less so here than in radio.”
>
>David Bowie: “Don’t say, ‘Well, it’s not me, it’s
>them.’ Is it not possible it should be a conviction of the
>station and of the radio stations to be fair… to make the
>media more integrated?”"
>
>Video link of cringe-worthy interview:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssMZjic3Mzg

____________________________

FUCK DONALD TRUMP

  

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41. "suddenly i like '"Heroes"' more than i used to."
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fuck you.

  

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42. ""Planet Earth Is Blue And There’s Nothing I Can Do""
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http://www.staugustinepics.com/black-and-white/planet-earth-blue/

See ya, JAK
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43. "my tribute (mix) to bowie.."
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if anyone wants to give it a spin (my first time posting anything like this on here..and i know there's serious djs all over this thing--be easy)

https://soundcloud.com/rldiaz75/music-to-david-bowie-to-mix

  

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44. "so this new album Blackstar is supposedly heavily influenced"
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by Kendrick Lamar.

Or at least him and his camp were listening to a lot of what I assume was TPAB ....

I listened to the album for the fourth or fifth time after learning
of this piece of news and I can hear def hear little hints of influence. kinda fascinating that a 69 year old white man, who don't get it twisted... loved black music and always championed it...
and was a man who knew his limitations so when he wanted to do a Philly soul record, he went and found the best and brightest to
help craft...

so it's no surprise well maybe a little... that he was fascinated
by Kendrick's album...

just a cool little connection imo.

-----
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Soundshape Records

  

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45. "not supposedly, his producer admitted it"
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the most heavily influenced song on the album is Girl Loves Me. that song is just begging for a kendrick feature.

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52. "and that Blackstar record is niiiice...."
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Blackstar grooves start to finish, amazing textures, hidden melodies, multi-moods, excellent production...

tip of the cap to you mr Bowie, artist through the end...
on your way to the NEXT party, you left the rest of us who are still here in THIS one with a wonderful parting gift.

  

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47. "RIP - (young americans)"
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48. "greg tate piece on bowie and black music (swipe)"
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http://www.mtv.com/news/2727414/brother-from-another-planet/

Brother from Another Planet
Bowie and black music
by mtv news staff 1/12/2016
4k
1
by Greg Tate

David Bowie ranks as high in our electric church’s Afrofuturist pantheon of demiurges as Jimi Hendrix, George Clinton, and Miles Davis. That’s for his outrageous aristocratic style, not-just-skin-deep soul, badass brinksmanship, and all-around Alter-Negrocity. Not to mention the Starman’s own sui generis take on The Funk. Bowie remains that rarity — a white rock artist whose appropriations of black kulcha never felt like a rip-off but more like a sharing of radical and bumptious ideations between like-minded freaks.

It seems 1975 was the first year we saw a white man get busy on Soul Train, “The Hippest Trip in America.” Memory fails us as to whom Don Cornelius chose to lob over the color line before whom: Bowie with ”Fame” or Elton John, whose ”Bennie and the Jets” had become a boom box staple on the back of the school bus that year at D.C.’s Coolidge High. That same year, Average White Band dropped ”Pick Up the Pieces” on Soul Train, too. Doesn’t really matter, because of the three, Bowie had the funkiest track and the more charismatically alien presence — simultaneously the most culturally familiar and the most outright bizarre. The unabashed Brit who fell to Mother Africa and kept on stepping in rhythm and rhyme to his own quasar.

Bowie’s Soul Train appearance offers insight into his enigmatic ability to groove with The People and levitate above the fray, somewhere way beyond the pale. That visit to the Mecca of televised urban Terpsichore came two years after the two biggest pimp-thug cats at Coolidge High, Robert Parrish and his boy, came back from the Capital Center raving about seeing the Ziggy Stardust tour. This was before we knew about the deep and abiding relationship between louche hustlers and transgendered folks in the ’hood. Not long after Bowie dropped “Fame,” George Clinton begrudgingly tossed off this riposte on Mothership Connection’s ”P-Funk (Wants To Get Funked Up)”: ”I was down south, heard some main ingredients like Blue Magic, Doobie Brothers, David Bowie. It was cool — but can you imagine Doobie in your funk?”’ Cite the absence of any snap on Bowie, Starchile Clinton was giving the Starman some major props. Not least because Bowie inspired all of rock and funk ’n’ roll to go more glam, glittery, and avant-haute in the ’70s.

UNITED STATES - OCTOBER 01: RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL Photo of David BOWIE, performing live onstage on Philly Dogs Tour (Photo by Steve Morley/Redferns)
Steve Morley/Redferns/Getty
All roads to Glamgnocity in that era lead back to Bowie — himself inspired by Jimi Hendrix. But Hendrix never got to realize rock theatricality as extravagantly as Bowie did — nor did the Voodoo Chile have a costume-designing wizard like Japan’s Kansai Yamamoto knitting away in his stage-couture shed.

Our ace boon Arthur Jafa likes to say that ”Andy Warhol was so white he was black.” Bowie (who played Warhol in Schnabel’s film Basquiat) was likewise so avant-garde he tipped over into the Avant-’Groid — that Afro-outré dimension where Little Richard and Sun Ra define how far out you can go and command love from the folk. Like Joni Mitchell — another unguilty pleasure of many boho blackfolk — Bowie double-crossed back over to black culture by being his own transcendently pan-everything creation. But not even Queen Mother Joni can say she provoked James Brown to copycat action twice in his career. JB was so blown away by Bowie’s ”Fame,” he cut his own carbon-copy track, ”Hot (I Need to Be Loved, Loved, Loved),” and, years later, when Bowie optioned his publishing for stock points, the Godfather of Soul got the news about how lucrative the deal proved and quickly followed suit. Bowie once said, “The secret to my success was I was always the second guy to come up with the idea.” All hip-hop junkies can relate: How you flip secondhand wisdom to make the meta go mega-pop takes genius, too. (FYI, the ”Fame” story is further complicated by the fact that Brown remembered Bowie’s co-writer Carlos Alomar playing the main riff at the Apollo years before — but chase down the long version here.

This reporter got to hang out with Bowie a few times in the aughts. Iman commissioned moi to write an essay for her cosmetics company’s catalogue. During our initial meeting, Iman leaned in with her cell phone and said, ”My husband wants to talk to you — he’s a big fan of your work.” Say WTF? It was truly the GTFOH gobsmack moment of a lifetime in music journalism. If only because, arrogant as we journos can be on the page, only an idiot thinks anyone of musical consequence actually reads our cantankerous sheet! Upshot is, because of that bizarre turnabout we got to get turnt out in person, as most were, by Bowie’s singular alchemy — utter nobility combined with an easygoing lack of pretension. Later came revelations about this highly irregular regular guy’s generosity of spirit.

During our first convo, Bowie related how he’d recently met P. Diddy — a man so impressed by Bowie’s handshake he inquired as to who Bowie’s trainer was. Whereupon the Thin White Duke informed Mr. Bad Boy, ”That grip isn’t from training, Puff. That’s from 40 years of trying to hold on to your money in the music business.” Talk about pulling a tyro’s coat tail.

Up close and personal, you also got to see how puppy-dog lovestruck Bowie’s goddess-worship of Iman was. Bowie’s curiosity also led him and Iman to truck down to CBGB one night to see this reporter’s then-wife, vocalist Tamar-Kali, rock out with her brand of Geechee Goddess Hardcore Warrior Soul. The couple also made their way to our good buddy Arthur Jafa’s very, very postmodern painting, sculpture, and performance opening in an off-the-beaten-path Soho gallery. There was nothing fake about Bowie’s passion for the people, art, and ideas that captured his imagination. If he was moved by your trip, he’d go the extra mile to show love as one of your fans, too. We also witnessed Bowie’s gangsta-husband come out at Tamar’s CBGB gig, when our 220-pound stage-diving homeboy Luqman Brown crash-landed in Iman’s lap. Bowie, sans security, turned Iceberg Slim–cold and snatched Luq off of his better half with the quickness while snapping ”Get off my wife” to our burly punk rock brother. Luq sheepishly slunk away, but we know that if it had been any other well-dressed white man courting a Somalian supermodel at CBGB back then, foul language and fisticuffs may have ensued. Even more impressive is that even after being rattled and smushed, Bowie and Iman stayed for the rest of Tamar’s set! Hardcore to the bone, yo.

Like anybody in the lily-white rock world of yon who sang, danced, and played saxophone, Bowie was beyond indebted to black culture. But much akin to Miles Davis, assimilating influences for Bowie meant he’d granted himself license to warp and mutilate those sweet inspirations in pursuit of self-renovation. This trait is abundantly evident on 1975’s Young Americans album. Bowie’s rapprochement with Philly Soul in Philly International’s home base, Sigma Sound, remains a watershed moment for our still-racialized world of American music-making. YA marked Bowie’s maiden voyage with Puerto Rican–born Apollo pit band guitarist Carlos Alomar, who’d become a studio and touring mainstay for the next decade. The album also features songwriting collaborations with emergent soul star and then-backing vocalist Luther Vandross. Shape of things to come: Who else but Bowie would later divine a crossroads for Nile Rodgers and Stevie Ray Vaughan to crew up on one of the dopest ’80s dance-floor anthems? Who else but the same man would cede the spotlight to African American bassist/singer Gail Ann Dorsey during the concert versions of ”Under Pressure”? On Young Americans, you hear a white rock star who didn’t want to be read as a mere tourist in Blackonia but as a contributor, a collaborator, and ultimately a real comrade. This latter aspect was never more clear than when Bowie sat down with MTV host Mark Goodman in 1985 and forthrightly addressed the network’s then-glaring race problem:

David Bowie: Why are there practically no blacks on the network?

Mark Goodman: We seem to be doing music that fits into what we want to play on MTV. The company is thinking in terms of narrowcasting.

David Bowie: There seem to be a lot of black artists making very good videos that I’m surprised aren’t being used on MTV.

Mark Goodman: We have to try and do what we think not only New York and Los Angeles will appreciate, but also Poughkeepsie or the Midwest. Pick some town in the Midwest which would be scared to death by a string of other black faces, or black music. We have to play music we think an entire country is going to like, and certainly we’re a rock and roll station.

David Bowie: Don’t you think it’s a frightening predicament to be in?

Mark Goodman: Yeah, but no less so here than in radio.

David Bowie: Don’t say, “Well, it’s not me, it’s them.” Is it not possible it should be a conviction of the station and of the radio stations to be fair, to make the media more integrated?’

The Rolling Stones, Duran Duran, Bruce Springsteen, Talking Heads — no one, to that point, had so publicly challenged the segregated status quo at a network then offering rock artists free mass-market advertising. But from that unprompted interrogation of the race factor in MTV programming, we can infer that Bowie’s love for the most politically committed black artists — Nina Simone, James Brown, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Gamble & Huff, Gil Scott-Heron, et al. — was more than lip service. Bowie got the memo that being a ride-or-die black-and-blue-eyed soul man meant putting your own career at risk in the name of cultural justice. That’s why we weren’t surprised to hear that his last album was majorly inspired by Kendrick Lamar’s To Pimp a Butterfly: ”I’m a black star / Not a rock star.'” Indubitably. And eternally. Down-by-law Bowie kept it 100 percent avant-’Groid until the wheels came off.

  

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49. "That was fantastic read"
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I wonder if that Tamar Ali show was an Afropunk branded one.

What I find fascinating is that reading the artist penned pieces over the past week dude was constantly going to shows of small acts during his hiatus in the 00's. Dude was a genuine lover of music

  

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50. "RE: greg tate piece on bowie and black music (swipe)"
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Awesome piece. Thanks!

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53. "Lovely."
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>http://www.mtv.com/news/2727414/brother-from-another-planet/
>
>Brother from Another Planet
>Bowie and black music
>by mtv news staff 1/12/2016
>4k
>1
>by Greg Tate
>
>David Bowie ranks as high in our electric church’s
>Afrofuturist pantheon of demiurges as Jimi Hendrix, George
>Clinton, and Miles Davis. That’s for his outrageous
>aristocratic style, not-just-skin-deep soul, badass
>brinksmanship, and all-around Alter-Negrocity. Not to mention
>the Starman’s own sui generis take on The Funk. Bowie
>remains that rarity — a white rock artist whose
>appropriations of black kulcha never felt like a rip-off but
>more like a sharing of radical and bumptious ideations between
>like-minded freaks.
>
>It seems 1975 was the first year we saw a white man get busy
>on Soul Train, “The Hippest Trip in America.” Memory fails
>us as to whom Don Cornelius chose to lob over the color line
>before whom: Bowie with ”Fame” or Elton John, whose
>”Bennie and the Jets” had become a boom box staple on the
>back of the school bus that year at D.C.’s Coolidge High.
>That same year, Average White Band dropped ”Pick Up the
>Pieces” on Soul Train, too. Doesn’t really matter, because
>of the three, Bowie had the funkiest track and the more
>charismatically alien presence — simultaneously the most
>culturally familiar and the most outright bizarre. The
>unabashed Brit who fell to Mother Africa and kept on stepping
>in rhythm and rhyme to his own quasar.
>
>Bowie’s Soul Train appearance offers insight into his
>enigmatic ability to groove with The People and levitate above
>the fray, somewhere way beyond the pale. That visit to the
>Mecca of televised urban Terpsichore came two years after the
>two biggest pimp-thug cats at Coolidge High, Robert Parrish
>and his boy, came back from the Capital Center raving about
>seeing the Ziggy Stardust tour. This was before we knew about
>the deep and abiding relationship between louche hustlers and
>transgendered folks in the ’hood. Not long after Bowie
>dropped “Fame,” George Clinton begrudgingly tossed off
>this riposte on Mothership Connection’s ”P-Funk (Wants To
>Get Funked Up)”: ”I was down south, heard some main
>ingredients like Blue Magic, Doobie Brothers, David Bowie. It
>was cool — but can you imagine Doobie in your funk?”’
>Cite the absence of any snap on Bowie, Starchile Clinton was
>giving the Starman some major props. Not least because Bowie
>inspired all of rock and funk ’n’ roll to go more glam,
>glittery, and avant-haute in the ’70s.
>
>UNITED STATES - OCTOBER 01: RADIO CITY MUSIC HALL Photo of
>David BOWIE, performing live onstage on Philly Dogs Tour
>(Photo by Steve Morley/Redferns)
>Steve Morley/Redferns/Getty
>All roads to Glamgnocity in that era lead back to Bowie —
>himself inspired by Jimi Hendrix. But Hendrix never got to
>realize rock theatricality as extravagantly as Bowie did —
>nor did the Voodoo Chile have a costume-designing wizard like
>Japan’s Kansai Yamamoto knitting away in his stage-couture
>shed.
>
>Our ace boon Arthur Jafa likes to say that ”Andy Warhol was
>so white he was black.” Bowie (who played Warhol in
>Schnabel’s film Basquiat) was likewise so avant-garde he
>tipped over into the Avant-’Groid — that Afro-outré
>dimension where Little Richard and Sun Ra define how far out
>you can go and command love from the folk. Like Joni Mitchell
>— another unguilty pleasure of many boho blackfolk — Bowie
>double-crossed back over to black culture by being his own
>transcendently pan-everything creation. But not even Queen
>Mother Joni can say she provoked James Brown to copycat action
>twice in his career. JB was so blown away by Bowie’s
>”Fame,” he cut his own carbon-copy track, ”Hot (I Need
>to Be Loved, Loved, Loved),” and, years later, when Bowie
>optioned his publishing for stock points, the Godfather of
>Soul got the news about how lucrative the deal proved and
>quickly followed suit. Bowie once said, “The secret to my
>success was I was always the second guy to come up with the
>idea.” All hip-hop junkies can relate: How you flip
>secondhand wisdom to make the meta go mega-pop takes genius,
>too. (FYI, the ”Fame” story is further complicated by the
>fact that Brown remembered Bowie’s co-writer Carlos Alomar
>playing the main riff at the Apollo years before — but chase
>down the long version here.
>
>This reporter got to hang out with Bowie a few times in the
>aughts. Iman commissioned moi to write an essay for her
>cosmetics company’s catalogue. During our initial meeting,
>Iman leaned in with her cell phone and said, ”My husband
>wants to talk to you — he’s a big fan of your work.” Say
>WTF? It was truly the GTFOH gobsmack moment of a lifetime in
>music journalism. If only because, arrogant as we journos can
>be on the page, only an idiot thinks anyone of musical
>consequence actually reads our cantankerous sheet! Upshot is,
>because of that bizarre turnabout we got to get turnt out in
>person, as most were, by Bowie’s singular alchemy — utter
>nobility combined with an easygoing lack of pretension. Later
>came revelations about this highly irregular regular guy’s
>generosity of spirit.
>
>During our first convo, Bowie related how he’d recently met
>P. Diddy — a man so impressed by Bowie’s handshake he
>inquired as to who Bowie’s trainer was. Whereupon the Thin
>White Duke informed Mr. Bad Boy, ”That grip isn’t from
>training, Puff. That’s from 40 years of trying to hold on to
>your money in the music business.” Talk about pulling a
>tyro’s coat tail.
>
>Up close and personal, you also got to see how puppy-dog
>lovestruck Bowie’s goddess-worship of Iman was. Bowie’s
>curiosity also led him and Iman to truck down to CBGB one
>night to see this reporter’s then-wife, vocalist Tamar-Kali,
>rock out with her brand of Geechee Goddess Hardcore Warrior
>Soul. The couple also made their way to our good buddy Arthur
>Jafa’s very, very postmodern painting, sculpture, and
>performance opening in an off-the-beaten-path Soho gallery.
>There was nothing fake about Bowie’s passion for the people,
>art, and ideas that captured his imagination. If he was moved
>by your trip, he’d go the extra mile to show love as one of
>your fans, too. We also witnessed Bowie’s gangsta-husband
>come out at Tamar’s CBGB gig, when our 220-pound
>stage-diving homeboy Luqman Brown crash-landed in Iman’s
>lap. Bowie, sans security, turned Iceberg Slim–cold and
>snatched Luq off of his better half with the quickness while
>snapping ”Get off my wife” to our burly punk rock brother.
>Luq sheepishly slunk away, but we know that if it had been any
>other well-dressed white man courting a Somalian supermodel at
>CBGB back then, foul language and fisticuffs may have ensued.
>Even more impressive is that even after being rattled and
>smushed, Bowie and Iman stayed for the rest of Tamar’s set!
>Hardcore to the bone, yo.
>
>Like anybody in the lily-white rock world of yon who sang,
>danced, and played saxophone, Bowie was beyond indebted to
>black culture. But much akin to Miles Davis, assimilating
>influences for Bowie meant he’d granted himself license to
>warp and mutilate those sweet inspirations in pursuit of
>self-renovation. This trait is abundantly evident on 1975’s
>Young Americans album. Bowie’s rapprochement with Philly
>Soul in Philly International’s home base, Sigma Sound,
>remains a watershed moment for our still-racialized world of
>American music-making. YA marked Bowie’s maiden voyage with
>Puerto Rican–born Apollo pit band guitarist Carlos Alomar,
>who’d become a studio and touring mainstay for the next
>decade. The album also features songwriting collaborations
>with emergent soul star and then-backing vocalist Luther
>Vandross. Shape of things to come: Who else but Bowie would
>later divine a crossroads for Nile Rodgers and Stevie Ray
>Vaughan to crew up on one of the dopest ’80s dance-floor
>anthems? Who else but the same man would cede the spotlight to
>African American bassist/singer Gail Ann Dorsey during the
>concert versions of ”Under Pressure”? On Young Americans,
>you hear a white rock star who didn’t want to be read as a
>mere tourist in Blackonia but as a contributor, a
>collaborator, and ultimately a real comrade. This latter
>aspect was never more clear than when Bowie sat down with MTV
>host Mark Goodman in 1985 and forthrightly addressed the
>network’s then-glaring race problem:
>
>David Bowie: Why are there practically no blacks on the
>network?
>
>Mark Goodman: We seem to be doing music that fits into what we
>want to play on MTV. The company is thinking in terms of
>narrowcasting.
>
>David Bowie: There seem to be a lot of black artists making
>very good videos that I’m surprised aren’t being used on
>MTV.
>
>Mark Goodman: We have to try and do what we think not only New
>York and Los Angeles will appreciate, but also Poughkeepsie or
>the Midwest. Pick some town in the Midwest which would be
>scared to death by a string of other black faces, or black
>music. We have to play music we think an entire country is
>going to like, and certainly we’re a rock and roll station.
>
>David Bowie: Don’t you think it’s a frightening
>predicament to be in?
>
>Mark Goodman: Yeah, but no less so here than in radio.
>
>David Bowie: Don’t say, “Well, it’s not me, it’s
>them.” Is it not possible it should be a conviction of the
>station and of the radio stations to be fair, to make the
>media more integrated?’
>
>The Rolling Stones, Duran Duran, Bruce Springsteen, Talking
>Heads — no one, to that point, had so publicly challenged
>the segregated status quo at a network then offering rock
>artists free mass-market advertising. But from that unprompted
>interrogation of the race factor in MTV programming, we can
>infer that Bowie’s love for the most politically committed
>black artists — Nina Simone, James Brown, Stevie Wonder,
>Marvin Gaye, Gamble & Huff, Gil Scott-Heron, et al. — was
>more than lip service. Bowie got the memo that being a
>ride-or-die black-and-blue-eyed soul man meant putting your
>own career at risk in the name of cultural justice. That’s
>why we weren’t surprised to hear that his last album was
>majorly inspired by Kendrick Lamar’s To Pimp a Butterfly:
>”I’m a black star / Not a rock star.'” Indubitably. And
>eternally. Down-by-law Bowie kept it 100 percent
>avant-’Groid until the wheels came off.

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FUCK DONALD TRUMP

  

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51. "RE: RIP David Bowie"
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One thing about the tragedy is it made me go back thru his catalog again. I started with Space Oddity and on Station to Station now, had such a strong album run as a solo artist, maybe kept his prime going more than any other solo artist, debatable at least. A few mediocre ones but most his shit was on point up thru Let's Dance, then kinda hit or miss after that but did like 95's Outside and this new one is pretty great.

  

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