"Only if Dam-Funk got his albums mixed properly..."
And added some background vocals, his stuff would be amazing. I was listening to Invite the Light and couldn't help thinking how amazing his stuff would be if he just got a proper mix done on his projects.
It's like, everything seems to coming at you straight from the center and there are MANY clashing sounds and frequencies.
It is especially evident during the guitar solo on this outtake:
I know that Stones Throw is very much about the lo fi aesthetic and having their projects reflect closely as possible the artist's original intent, but, nothing wrong with maximizing the the potential of a project with proper mixing.
Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.
2. "Because I cot damn chose to..." In response to Reply # 1 Tue Oct-06-15 12:39 PM by Remedial
Why should I have posted my comment in there? Because I reference the track that you SPECIFICALLY posted about? My issue does not revolve solely around that track. I just posted that track as an example because it is readily available to link.
It's not like you have a monopoly on all Dam-Funk posts...
Your logic is akin to someone making a post about how great a Tribe song is while someone else makes a post on Tribe's discography on a whole which includes a reference to the first poster's "song" along with others and someone saying they should be consolidated.
Come on...
You need to chill bro, you ain't no mod to be questioning cats about what they post and where...
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4. "Dude, do you not understand?" In response to Reply # 3
My post and yours are not one in the same and was I supposed to search to find your post before I made mine?
That post surely wasn't on the first page.
This has nothing to do with fracturing.
And you can't FORCE folks to support your post if they don't want to. I've had MANY a post tank and someone else post something quite similar and it skyrockets.
That's the name of the game round here.
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6. "Dude, I'll let you have the last word after this one..." In response to Reply # 5 Tue Oct-06-15 01:13 PM by Remedial
Cause it's obvious that's what you want, and, it's all yours.
But, I'll say this, I laid out pretty well WHY I made my post and even gave you an analogy to show you why your train of thought wasn't functional.
And your only response is to call me lame?
Like a kid?
At least man up and lay out your claim as to why things should be different.
Fracturing is lame?! That's it? Yours was just a fan boy post. You offered nothing in the way of critique, analysis, NOTHING. And you wanted me to start what is basically a whole new post in the comments of your post?
How old are you?
That's all I got to say. Last word is all yours..
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7. "for a recent track, a brief glance on the 2nd page of posts isn't" In response to Reply # 6
too much to ask to avoid fracturing. And fracturing is lame.
I said fracturing is lame in reply #3
"lame is lame" is saying FRACTURING is lame - no matter how it is justified (not calling you personally lame).
The Lesson has gone down from where people remember it was in the not-so-recent past. If the Lesson will get going again, people should say in most cases: "this is a new tract that's out on an artist lot's of people in the Lesson check for, let me look at a page of posts to SEE if there's a recent post about this artist.
In a recent post on such an artist, a person in a reply should then add whatever new twist they want to on the artist. A new dimension, etc.
If the Lesson is going to improve, replying to a post in the ballpark on a recent thing, rather than making a new post just from a different angle should be the norm.
19. "Trust me, not saying his music is bad..." In response to Reply # 8
>there's always something a lil "off" about his music but I >enjoy it all the same. > >There is one song where he wasn't fooling around though, and >that was his cover of Prince's "17 Days", which I adore. > >as much as I do the rest of that single ("I Don't Want To Be A >Star!")
I've been a fan since the Baron Zen Burn Rubber Remix. I just would like to hear it a little more refined sonically...
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9. "thats how 8os boogie musoc sounds" In response to Reply # 0
And thats what he does. Nothing wrong with his music. Bigger sounding doesn't equate to better.
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I think it adds character to the music. I even heard one mistake on there, a bad keyboard note and I loved it. All his shit is still one take all the way through.
>I think it adds character to the music. I even heard one >mistake on >there, a bad keyboard note and I loved it. All his shit is >still one >take all the way through.
I would personally rather a performance that is perfected and a sound that is the best that can be achieved within the budget available.
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25. "It's not a problem." In response to Reply # 22 Tue Oct-13-15 02:07 PM by Remedial
>U don't sound like a fan, and that's cool that's been his >sound from >day one.
Just an opinion and, just because I would like to hear a better mix does not make a non-fan. I've been a fan.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
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>And thats what he does. Nothing wrong with his music. Bigger >sounding doesn't equate to better.
My thing is, 80s boogie music sounded like that because that's was probably the limitations of the gear that they had available to them at the time.
Your argument is similar to that of Beatles fans who keep clamoring for music to go back to what it sounded like during their heyday. One counter to that was, what the Beatles were using when they recorded their most popular albums WAS bleeding edge and the most hi-tech equipment they could get their hands on at the time.
So, I'm kind of mixed on cats trying to keep it so "real" that they are willing to sacrifice quality in order to stick to some creed.
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21. "he mixed it the way he wanted it to sound" In response to Reply # 17
You mix your music the way you want it to sound. It was done intentionally. If you think it would sound better doing it another way, that is totally fine. But the album sounds great as is and making it more up to whatever today's standard might be wouldn't necessarily make it sound better. More contemporary, perhaps, but not better.
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20. "I've always figured as much..." In response to Reply # 11
>so i think it's safe to assume that the sound of the end >result was very much intentional.
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23. "I'm with you on this. I stopped listening after a while" In response to Reply # 0
I know he makes music I like, but the mix is trash and I can't listen if he doesn't respect his output enough to treat it properly.
Miss me w/ the "he meant it" or "80s sounded like", too. If that's the case, he just doesn't have the ear to mix. Not all creators have that ability; that's fine.
Let Quik mix a DamFunk record and I'll be in the middle of the dance floor, shit. Let him do a one-off on Brainfeeder instead of Stones Throw and he'll never look back.
24. "did you really think thatvreply through all the way?" In response to Reply # 23
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I'm a fan of the stereo sound myself, I don't mind the mix in mono but record in stereo sounds, and yeah it has a sound onto itself but it seems more like he doesn't hear it sounding muddy or overlapping in sonics verses "oh he's doing it on purpose for an old school sound" and everyone needs to quit saying that r&b kats didn't have use of good equipment cause they did and 90% of funk didn't sound flat or in mono maybe if you transfer your vinyl to some cheap turntable without e.q.ing it first to mp3 then yeah it would sound all upfront and flat.
I dig Dam-Funk's music but not so much that his output mixdowns don't vibe, I love the collaboration with Snoop (which got me wondering he they had somebody else to do the recordings verses Dam himself).
--------- "We in here talking about later career Prince records & your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak
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