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ChampD1012
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"Hey guys...The Minstrel Show is 10 Today..."


  

          

There are a lot of memories from that album...some of this board...

Let's pay homage to this classic album...

  

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I'll just place this here (link)
Sep 13th 2015
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It's my favorite period...
Sep 14th 2015
12
RE: Hey guys...The Minstrel Show is 10 Today...
Sep 13th 2015
2
Bumped in the whip while running errands. Still holds up.
Sep 13th 2015
3
Wait so were these actually true?
Sep 13th 2015
4
1st paragraph YEP...2nd Paragraph i believe it...
Sep 14th 2015
13
I really hate the mixing on this album
Sep 13th 2015
5
RE: I really hate the mixing on this album
Sep 13th 2015
6
And I do. he mixed the whole thing like a Kaney record
Sep 13th 2015
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      RE: And I do. he mixed the whole thing like a Kaney record
Sep 13th 2015
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           Ah explains why I've felt something missing
Sep 13th 2015
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I agree. I pulled it out a few months ago
Sep 14th 2015
10
Using the same techniques
Sep 15th 2015
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Remembered by Tay, Pooh, and 9th [link]
Sep 14th 2015
11
good read!
Sep 14th 2015
14
They were always a group I thought I would like more.
Sep 14th 2015
15
that early 2000s LB/JL is still my favorite stuff since the 90s...
Sep 14th 2015
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I copped it at PX on an army base RIGHT before I deployed to Iraq...
Sep 15th 2015
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one of my most anicipated albums ever
Sep 15th 2015
19
Still one of my all time favorite songs, ever
Sep 15th 2015
20
this is my favorite joint on the album
Sep 15th 2015
21

Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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1. "I'll just place this here (link)"
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One of my favorite opening tracks of all-time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fzbnhsXQjM

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ChampD1012
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12. "It's my favorite period..."
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I listen to this track once a week minimum...

  

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howardlloyd
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2. "RE: Hey guys...The Minstrel Show is 10 Today..."
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10 years goes fast as fuck...

i loved this joint when it dropped... thought it outdid the listening at the time...

now i don't know...i love both

really dope record i wish i had on wax

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mrhood75
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3. "Bumped in the whip while running errands. Still holds up. "
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Everyone involved was in a zone with this one: Tigallo, Pooh, 9th, Khyrsis, etc.

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4. "Wait so were these actually true?"
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For many reasons, the furor surrounding The Minstrel Show overshadowed the music itself. On August 16, 2005, hip hop magazine The Source's Editor-in-Chief, Joshua "Fahiym" Ratcliffe, announced his retirement due to conflicting opinions on the rating The Minstrel Show was to receive in the next issue of the publication. According to Ratcliffe, his original rating of 4.5 (out of 5) was reduced to 4 by the magazine's Chief Brand Executive, Raymond "Benzino" Scott and CEO Dave Mays because Ratcliffe gave then-upcoming artist Young Jeezy a rating of 4. After they refused to change the rating back to 4.5 he decided to step down from his editorial position. For his part, Benzino admitted at the time of questioning, that he had yet to listen to the album for himself and had no problem with Ratcliffe's original rating.

While this may have built up anticipation for the album, another more serious obstacle reared its head when the entertainment network BET (Black Entertainment Television) refused to play the group's video for the single, "Lovin' It", allegedly because they deemed it "too intelligent". Michael Lewellen, a publicist and program director for BET, responded, "It's not true, not in that context. BET reserves the right to show or not to show music videos of any type based on the network's own standards and decision-making processes." In a portion of the video, the group lightly pokes fun at the different stylistic aspects of hip hop subgenres such as "gangsta", "backpack", "earthy" and "icy". The rest of it sees them performing to a zealous crowd.

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ChampD1012
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13. "1st paragraph YEP...2nd Paragraph i believe it..."
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Folks wanted to give that album 5 Mics in The Source though...The Naked Truth by Lil Kim got that award in the magazine...and The Minstrel Show got 4.5...

XXL was suppose to give it a perfect rating too...but because they just gave Common's Be a perfect rating...they couldn't give The Minstrel Show that...

  

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Garhart Poppwell
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5. "I really hate the mixing on this album"
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it sounds really flat and devoid of life. But musically it's pretty great. Thematically they really knew how to execute from song to song, which is something not many groups can or even know how to do.

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6. "RE: I really hate the mixing on this album"
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>it sounds really flat and devoid of life. But musically it's
>pretty great. Thematically they really knew how to execute
>from song to song, which is something not many groups can or
>even know how to do.

You can blame Young Guru (Roc-A-Fella) for that.

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Garhart Poppwell
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7. "And I do. he mixed the whole thing like a Kaney record"
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9th's drums had tons of character to them, and in the attempt to polish the sound he ended up getting rid of all of that.

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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8. "RE: And I do. he mixed the whole thing like a Kaney record"
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You can def hear the difference between this album and The Listening. I remember Young Guru speaking about how proud of that album he was and I'm thinking "Fam, you kinda muffled their sound."

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9. "Ah explains why I've felt something missing"
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As much as I liked the album, I always chose The Listening over it... the mixing must be the reason

  

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10. "I agree. I pulled it out a few months ago"
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And was really disappointed in how flat and muffled it sounds.

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17. "Using the same techniques"
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to mixing the Akai processed MPC to mixing the "what you put in is what you get out" raw quality of FL didn't translate well.

  

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11. "Remembered by Tay, Pooh, and 9th [link]"
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http://watchloud.com/little-brother-minstrel-show-10-years-later/

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14. "good read!"
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thank you muchly.

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15. "They were always a group I thought I would like more."
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They were so much like those Native Tongue records that I always compared them to Little Brother's music. As solid as the Little Brother albums were, they just didn't have the extra spark that groups like Tribe or De La had to me.

That being said, The Minstrel Show was a really good album and got alot of burn from me. We Got Now is one of the best closing tracks I've ever heard and there's alot of diversity in terms of themes in the album - introspection, humor, songs that just go.

  

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16. "that early 2000s LB/JL is still my favorite stuff since the 90s..."
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18. "I copped it at PX on an army base RIGHT before I deployed to Iraq..."
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it got me through some tough times. That album will always have a very special meaning to me.

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19. "one of my most anicipated albums ever"
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Could not wait to get out of work to go get it. I was not disappointed.....easily my most played album that fall, and one that I still go back to sometimes. Even more than loving the music, I really wanted them to win. I always felt like if people heard the music, they would like it. Kanye was blowing up at the time, with some similarities and I felt like they made better music than Kanye(who I also liked). I was frustrated that the album didn't get much traction on that front.

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20. "Still one of my all time favorite songs, ever"
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https://youtu.be/TSV6RlStK1o

I remember this came on in the whip and I lost my damn mind. Still one of the most played songs on my iPod, apparently

As a group, LB was the last 'movement' type feel I can remember, or at least the last group (and satellite members) that I really rode for. It's a shame this album didn't get more burn than it deserved

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21. "this is my favorite joint on the album"
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I used to listen to this album all the time. been about 5 years since it's been out of the rotation. gonna add it on my spotify again.

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