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"So Hold Up...Yall Aint Like NOTHING On Ma$e's Double Up?"


  

          

When the boy Murder retired from the game his second album was either about to drop or just dropped. The reception was kinda luke warm because the game got way more aggressive with DMX at the top. When I first heard Double Up I didn't think it was a smash but I did like a good amount of the records. It seems like I'm the only one.

The first record at radio "Stay Out My Way" with the Madonna sample was heat IMO. Get Ready with Blackstreet was dope but might have been a year too late. The slow tempo joints like Make Me Cry and Same Niggas were good. Especially the latter. If You Want To Party goes on some Harlem shit.

Ultimately I want to know why this album was generally panned by the people.

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RE: So Hold Up...Yall Aint Like NOTHING On Ma$e's Double Up?
Sep 11th 2015
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You Aint Smart is my joint
Sep 11th 2015
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So I was JUST thinking about this as I made my 99 mix
Sep 11th 2015
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RE: So I was JUST thinking about this as I made my 99 mix
Sep 11th 2015
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Shitt, and it was the Tunnel era. And could you go to like the Premo typ...
Sep 11th 2015
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      RE: Shitt, and it was the Tunnel era. And could you go to like the Premo...
Sep 11th 2015
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Reading that made me miss diversity so much.
Sep 12th 2015
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I remember liking Blood Is Thicker and Make Me Cry
Sep 11th 2015
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He made a lot of money on the first go round
Sep 12th 2015
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      Elaborate on this, please.
Sep 12th 2015
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           Hot 97 interview where Ma$e and Cam and Jim Jones discuss the issues
Sep 12th 2015
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Wasn't into the Bad Boy party records much at the time, but in retrospec...
Sep 12th 2015
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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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1. "RE: So Hold Up...Yall Aint Like NOTHING On Ma$e's Double Up?"
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He had several cuts I dug

Stay Out of My Way
Make Me Cry
Same Niggas <- My shit!
Another Story to Tell
You Ain't Smart <- My other joint!
All I Ever Wanted

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13Rose
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2. "You Aint Smart is my joint"
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Even with the sneak Jay diss.

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-DJ R-Tistic-
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Fri Sep-11-15 11:25 AM

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3. "So I was JUST thinking about this as I made my 99 mix"
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Fri Sep-11-15 11:29 AM by -DJ R-Tistic-

  

          

The game changed a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT from 97-99, even 98-99. ESPECIALLY for New York.

The East Coast in 99 had Da Rockwilda, Quiet storm, even more DMX and Ruff Ryders hits like Party up, the Vol. 2 Jay songs in rotation like Hard knock life and Jigga what, Simon Says, those party drops like Be faithful (You got a 100 bill throw ya hands up!), Jigga my nigga, Nas is like, Biggie Dead wrong, ODB Got your money, The next movement, Ms. Fat Booty, 50 Cent's "Life's on the line" and "How to rob."

And that's just the East....the South's whole sound was darker, slower, and bouncier, and they REALLY came in strong that year. Left right left, Who dat, Get rich to this, Bling Bling, Cash Money is an army, Back that azz up/400 Degreez finally getting recognized since it came in 98, and then the more Regional/club tracks like Slob on my knob and We ready (Pastor troy).

Just listening to all those........there was no longer a place for the Jiggy Rap that came in strong in 97. Not only this, but the songs on Double up just weren't touching ANYHTHING commercially/club wise that Bad Boy had in 97-98...No Benjamins, Mo money mo problems, Feels so good, Been around the world, Can't hold me down....nah. Tracks like "If you want to party" just didn't have that "it" to it, and felt burnt out by 99...the hook was horrible, even worse than "If you think I'm jiggy." An artist like Mase at the time thrived on his commercial appeal and hits on that side, so once that dried up...he was a wrap, sadly.

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4. "RE: So I was JUST thinking about this as I made my 99 mix"
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I tell you...

This was a fun ass time to be a DJ...

In Philly to be able to go from Jiggy shit To Swizz Beatz to Cash Money to Gogo to Reggae to some Luke to Sporty Theivz

lotta foggy ass house parties mang..

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5. "Shitt, and it was the Tunnel era. And could you go to like the Premo typ..."
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Hip Hop too? Or even a Roots "Dynamite?"

>I tell you...
>
>This was a fun ass time to be a DJ...
>
>In Philly to be able to go from Jiggy shit To Swizz Beatz to
>Cash Money to Gogo to Reggae to some Luke to Sporty Theivz
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>lotta foggy ass house parties mang..

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7. "RE: Shitt, and it was the Tunnel era. And could you go to like the Premo..."
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That I did not play.. lol..

but mad Rawkus tho

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9. "Reading that made me miss diversity so much."
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People were doing all types a shit in 99....but was still winning. Pretty much from then until The Blueprint anything goes in terms of singles.

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6. "I remember liking Blood Is Thicker and Make Me Cry"
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All I Ever Wanted was cool as well, to me that would've had the best chance commercially if it would've gotten a video.

They didn't push that album at all after it dropped, because Mase retired right when it was dropping. I believe "Get Ready" was the only video made for that album.

The few other commercial attempts like "Do It Again" with Puff were just awful songs IMO.

I remember being surprised by how bitter Mase came across on a lot of that album.

  

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8. "He made a lot of money on the first go round"
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But he also made a lot of enemies. Especially in Harlem shit got bad. It sucks to me because I think dude could really rap and was unique. Guess he just wasn't meant to last. He still got it honestly. People just don't wanna hear him. That G-Unit mixtape had HEAT on it too.

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10. "Elaborate on this, please."
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Sat Sep-12-15 07:48 AM by Brew

          

>But he also made a lot of enemies. Especially in Harlem shit
>got bad.

^^^^ I'm interested to know more. I haven't exactly gone out of my way to research the subject all that much so the whole Mase retirement/post-Bad Boy life is somewhat of a mystery to me outside of the well-reported-on stuff like the G-Unit comeback, etc.

>It sucks to me because I think dude could really rap
>and was unique. Guess he just wasn't meant to last. He still
>got it honestly. People just don't wanna hear him. That G-Unit
>mixtape had HEAT on it too.

Yea I like Mase, always have.

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12. "Hot 97 interview where Ma$e and Cam and Jim Jones discuss the issues"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s509nAULeAc

  

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11. "Wasn't into the Bad Boy party records much at the time, but in retrospec..."
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I can appreciate Mase's place for what it was and their contribution set a social tone for NYC that I remember. I'm a Harlem resident since the mid 80's. From a collector standpoint I remember feeling like I'd rather go listen to other artists like Nas, Timbaland or DMX if I want to be impressed by a party record. In comparison to those artists I felt something was lacking in Mase's music although Mase and Bad Boy had their own sound and could be enjoyed while at the party. I also remember being more rebellious to Bad Boy then than I am now because I was immersed in the underground indie Hip Hop movement of the time living in Fat Beats Record store. I have yet to hear Double Up in it's entirety, I felt like I was already overwhelmed with his music at the time it came out from neighborhood play.

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