When it comes to Production, Lyrics, Albums, who do you prefer?


Production = This is wayyyyyy too hard. I don't like Oddisee's old production (the tracks that sound like Kev Brown beats). But his NEW STUFF?

Lyrics = Black Milk. Oddisee is way more complex lyrically. And his flow is insane, but I'll still go with Black Milk for now. I can see Oddisee easily surpassing him though. Oddisee has tons of potential, he gets better with every new release.

Overall Albums = Black Milk

As far as hip hop artists in the past 10-15 years who are producers first, rappers second, mostly work solo, who have experimented with using different live instruments, synths, song structures, rhythms, without ever sounding too out of the box of traditional hip hop.

I listen to a lot of instrumentals, and while just listening to instrumentals from Black Milks solo albums are great, I wish he'd try his hand at a couple more instrumental releases that are less beat tapey - I think Oddisee's instrumental-only releases - "The Beauty In All", "Rock Creek Park", "Traveling Man" are great, and would love to see Black Milk try again - Synth Or Soul was good, but I prefer any of Oddisee's instrumental stuff to it. If I had to choose one of them, I'd go with Oddisee just because I love those releases, but for vocal albums and production for other rappers, they are equally great to me.

I prefer Oddisee on pretty much everything though. He's stepped his game up incredibly over the last few years. Would love an OddMilk album.

>I prefer Oddisee on pretty much everything though. He's
>stepped his game up incredibly over the last few years. Would
>love an OddMilk album.

That wouldn't be too bad. They could do a Jaylib kind of thing where each one of them produces for the other. I think it would be a good idea.

I once envisioned a collabo album with Milk, Nottz and Quik. All A level producers who are pretty nice on the mic. Probably will never happen, but with them all being independent, it surely wouldn't be too hard to execute.

And, imagine them ACTUALLY working together on the beats, not just each one of them submitting their own pieces for the project?

IT WOULD BE CRAZY!!!

But, that's one of those dream situations that will probably never happen.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

recently on twitter they both stated mutual interest to work with each other though, so we'll see what happens.

if only because he's more...fun? To me. Oddisee is excellent both on the boards and on the mic but he can be kind of a drag sometimes.

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>When it comes to Production, Lyrics, Albums, who do you
>prefer?

All of these are REAL close, but...

>Production = Black Milk. My preference leans a little more towards boom-bappy, hard drum, beat-tapish stuff.

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>Lyrics = Oddisee wins for flow, content, complexity.

>Overall Albums = Black Milk


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Lyrically, Oddisee pretty easily.

i bet it would have looked like that "LWFC vs BOBS" post

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on tha reels, I love me some black milk, but for overall content, production and flow, hands down oddisee, plus I think his catalog has far more depth.

I am biased that I saw oddisee live and it was one of best hip-hop show if seen in a very long time. He just came correct on the beat, rhymes (could understand every word) and the stage presence.




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when was the last time you heard anyone even talking Black Milk?

I must say that Oddisee is better lyrically and his releases (although I haven't heard like the past two and need to revisit his older stuff) seem to be more focused and his songs have more purpose and direction.

Also, he's pretty good on a hook and has a MUCH bigger personality and presence than Milk.

Now, the reason I choose Milk is because his production ethos just resonates with me. Like Ishwip mentioned, I'm must more into that heavy drum, boom bap, beat tape type of sound. Also, his albums have this way of growing on you. They might not hit you initially, but, give them time and they'll creep up on you one day.

I'm fine with instrumentals alone from Milk. I don't even really need lyrics on top. Can't really say the same for Oddissee, ALTHOUGH that man DOES have heat. Don't get me wrong. I could just really be me having a preference for the Detroit beat sound over the DMV sound.

Also, he helmed the Caltroit album. Nuff said. That album is so criminally underrated, it's INSANE. I REALLY thought he was going to be one EVERYONE'S list when it comes to producers to recruit for albums after that one. But, reality and fantasy didn't align with that one....

I do think Milk needs to focus more on putting together an album that can tap the overground a lil bit like AOTY did. That one could have done much better if he had chosen the singles a little better.

By the way, for anyone that might have missed it or was not aware, he dropped a video for "Story and Her": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhKARyhV8a8

It's pretty good. They have some nice fluid shots with no cuts (specifically the scene with him walking down the stairs headed to the car) and the segue into the second movement of that song is done really well,.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

Oddisee is just the man right now, and that's not taking anything away from Milk....like it's been said before, a collab LP like Dilla and Madlib did would be a monster...

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but he can't f*ck with Oddisee right now ... five years ago, MAYBE (BM was on fire, bu Oddisee had that Diamond District out) ... eight years ago, I would likely say BM ... but now in 2015, Amir Mohammed got it

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They're both dope overall though.

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>They're both dope overall though.


Like someone said, Black Milk is just more fun to listen to. And Black Milk stepped up his rapping significantly. He got flows too.

https://soundcloud.com/blackmilkofficial/i-guess

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Some Questions are just too hard to answer, this being one of them. But if I have to i'd give Oddisee the slight edge

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>He's a complete artistin the vein that Q-Tip carved out. His
>emceeing and production are about even with each other for the
>most part.

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Especially Black Milk production anyway.