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"Skyzoo "Music For My Friends" Discussion"


  

          

This is in my top 5 of the year so far. I didnt care for Barrel Brothers very much, but 80% of this album is as good as anything he's ever done

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
I love it. This dude's ear for beats is ridiculous.
Jun 18th 2015
1
Crap! my music budget is at its limit...
Jun 18th 2015
2
9th Wonder diss? Any insight on what happened
Jun 18th 2015
3
RE: 9th Wonder diss? Any insight on what happened
Jun 29th 2015
21
RE: Skyzoo "Music For My Friends" Discussion
Jun 18th 2015
4
Damn, I LOVED Barrel Bros...busting this out at the gym tomorrow morning
Jun 18th 2015
5
I love that this album fully embraces the jazz side.
Jun 19th 2015
6
Sounds great. Another 2015 winner
Jun 19th 2015
7
The beat selection is boom-bap glorious
Jun 23rd 2015
10
Man this dude loves The Wire more than I do!
Jun 19th 2015
8
Solid 4 Mics on first listen
Jun 20th 2015
9
Black Thought appears courtesy of Himself
Jun 27th 2015
14
This is Top 5
Jun 23rd 2015
11
Theres some hot tracks on this album but his hooks are subpar
Jun 26th 2015
12
Is he doing the same shit as on the last album where he
Jun 26th 2015
13
Yeah, his hooks sound like the hook on this track
Jun 27th 2015
15
      that song bangs, though...prolly my fave track off Dream Deferred
Jun 27th 2015
17
very valid assessment. no argument here, however,
Jun 27th 2015
16
      What's wrong with LUPE hooks?
Jun 30th 2015
23
           I agree.
Jun 30th 2015
24
                Ok
Jul 09th 2015
31
This brother's discography is immaculate.....
Jun 28th 2015
18
He rocked the house last night at Blue Note with his band...
Jun 28th 2015
19
this is dope to me
Jun 28th 2015
20
This is a damn good album
Jun 30th 2015
22
while I don't like this quite as much as Dream Deferred...
Jul 07th 2015
25
I keep trying with Skyzoo, but I just can't seem to do it
Jul 07th 2015
26
very good point about Barrel Bros....I really enjoy Torae's verses
Jul 08th 2015
27
Same here!
Jul 14th 2015
33
He did a Google Hangout last night...few things came out of it
Jul 09th 2015
28
Sky stay missing out on big collabs....
Jul 09th 2015
30
This shit is good...thx
Jul 09th 2015
29
Between this, Lupe and Joey's albums
Jul 12th 2015
32
"money makes us happy" with black thought and bilal is jammin'
Aug 04th 2015
34
sure is...really good song
Aug 04th 2015
36
Anyone else know Skyzoo did some writing for Dre?
Aug 04th 2015
35
that's dope!
Aug 04th 2015
37
This is the opposite of the drake/meek beef...
Aug 05th 2015
38
RE: Skyzoo "Music For My Friends" Discussion
Aug 05th 2015
39
Yup.
Aug 05th 2015
40
dope.
Aug 29th 2015
41
i liked almost all of what he's done
Aug 30th 2015
42
Who the fuck is this nigga!?!?!?! This nigga DOPE
Jan 12th 2016
43
just checking it now?
Jan 12th 2016
44
Yeah, heard songs but never got to it
Jan 12th 2016
45
      yeah. have you checked for his past albums?
Jan 12th 2016
46
      yeah, his music is never really transcendent but just consistently good....
Jan 12th 2016
48
      A Dream Deferred is a beautiful album.
Jan 12th 2016
52
I wish someone would book him in Detroit man...
Jan 12th 2016
47
damn O_E, i thought you'd be up on him
Jan 12th 2016
49
      I have to sift through the Lesson talking about Wiz Khalifah
Jan 12th 2016
50
           He's one of my favorite ever
Jan 12th 2016
51
           Yes, Dream Deferred is fantastic.
Jan 12th 2016
53
           even that shit he did with 9th was good
Jan 12th 2016
55
           you mean these niggas don't hype it enough
Jan 12th 2016
54
           lol...we been on it fam...
Jan 12th 2016
56
                like i don't take his music off my phone
Jan 13th 2016
57
                     dude...I need to peep that....I'm stuck on Dream Deferred so much...
Jan 13th 2016
58
                     that was so good
Jan 13th 2016
59
This nigga might be my favorite rapper at the moment.
Feb 08th 2016
60
I share the sentiment.
Feb 09th 2016
61
      i've heard boring too
Feb 09th 2016
62
      Nobody with above a 5th grade reading level says that
Feb 10th 2016
63
           Lol
Feb 10th 2016
64
This is top 5 in the last 5 years to me
Mar 07th 2016
65
I still haven't really listened to this, and I don't know why
Mar 07th 2016
66
I'm in the same boat
Mar 08th 2016
67
RE: Skyzoo "Music For My Friends" Discussion
Mar 08th 2016
68
GOING BACK THROUGH THE DISCOGRAPHY
Jan 12th 2018
69
He's rounded into a never-disappoints favorite
Jan 12th 2018
70
Ummm 'In Celebration of Us'!??! Good grief this dude is incredible
Feb 03rd 2018
71
After a few listens this album is crazy.
Feb 03rd 2018
72
      Dude. Cannot. Miss.
Feb 03rd 2018
73
           Maybe it deserves its own post?
Feb 03rd 2018
74
                Yes, it does
Feb 03rd 2018
75

BNueve
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1. "I love it. This dude's ear for beats is ridiculous."
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Here's the production & feature lineup...

01. All Day, Always (prod. by AntMan Wonder)
02. Suicide Doors (prod. by MarcNfinit)
03. The Moments That Matter feat. Kay Cola (prod. by Jahlil Beats)
04. Luxury feat. Westside Gunn (prod. by Skyzoo)
05. Everything’s For Sale (prod. by !llmind)
06. See A Key (Ki’) feat. Jadakiss (prod. by Thelonious Martin)
07. Money Makes Us Happy feat. Black Thought & Bilal (prod. by The Rvlt)
08. Playing Favorites feat. Christon Gray (prod. by !llmind)
09. Meadow Of Trust feat. Saba (prod. by Black Metaphor)
10. Women Who Can Cook (prod. by Thelonious Martin)
11. Civilized Leisure feat. MoZaic (prod. by !llmind)
12. The Experience (prod. by MarcNfinit)
13. Asking Bodie For A Package feat. Skarr Akbar (prod. by !llmind)
14. Things I Should’ve Told My Friends (prod. by Apollo Brown)
15. Sweet Pursuit feat. Kay Cola (prod. by Seige Monstracity)

  

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2. "Crap! my music budget is at its limit..."
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J/k there's no music budget limit. (though there should be)

I hope this is dope!

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3. "9th Wonder diss? Any insight on what happened"
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between Skyzoo & 9th?

the bars in question:
"...But I stopped thinkin that rappers and producers was my friends
Cuz it's a wonderful world* til they cuttin out the odds
And it turns out loyalty just wasn't in they cards"

*9th has two labels (for some reason), Jamla Records, and It's a Wonderful World Music Group, on which he released The Wonder Years.

Very, very dope album by the way...Skyzoo is the dopest rapper there is right now in my opinion, right between Lupe and maybe Kendrick, and the production is immaculate too...

...but I'm just like, man, what went wrong there?

  

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21. "RE: 9th Wonder diss? Any insight on what happened"
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>between Skyzoo & 9th?
>
>the bars in question:
>"...But I stopped thinkin that rappers and producers was my
>friends
>Cuz it's a wonderful world* til they cuttin out the odds
>And it turns out loyalty just wasn't in they cards"
>
>*9th has two labels (for some reason), Jamla Records, and It's
>a Wonderful World Music Group, on which he released The Wonder
>Years.
>
>Very, very dope album by the way...Skyzoo is the dopest rapper
>there is right now in my opinion, right between Lupe and maybe
>Kendrick, and the production is immaculate too...
>
>...but I'm just like, man, what went wrong there?

9th moved everybody under Jamla a few years ago...

  

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4. "RE: Skyzoo "Music For My Friends" Discussion"
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Those first 8 tracks are flawless. Not a fan of the bonus track, but this goes.

Sky does it again.

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5. "Damn, I LOVED Barrel Bros...busting this out at the gym tomorrow morning"
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6. "I love that this album fully embraces the jazz side."
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Most of Sky's solo albums have jazzy songs, but then pull back into the 90 homage feel. This album is jazz almost all the way through, but not in a Pete Rock way.

I'm still digesting it, but I think it' better listen all the way through than A Dream Deferred was.

I wish he rapped on Meadow Of Trust tho.

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7. "Sounds great. Another 2015 winner"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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10. "The beat selection is boom-bap glorious"
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Off first listen it's his best album.

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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8. "Man this dude loves The Wire more than I do!"
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I've only heard Dream Deferred and I just got to "Asking Bodie For A Package" on this one... and man. Both albums are FILLED with Wire references

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9. "Solid 4 Mics on first listen"
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Damn good album. Beat selection (as noted above) is superb.

Glad to see Black Thought get some shine - with Bilal!

If Nas had his ear for beats...

  

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14. "Black Thought appears courtesy of Himself"
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When I read that in the liner notes...I LOLed

  

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11. "This is Top 5"
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Don't know why people think this cat is boring or a Jay-Z clone.

Your ears have to be able to discern nuance n order to appreciate dude.

If you're looking for something immediate, Skyzoo might not be for you.

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12. "Theres some hot tracks on this album but his hooks are subpar"
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His hooks all sounds the same, they all have the same pattern.

  

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13. "Is he doing the same shit as on the last album where he"
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Does the 4 bar hook and then repeats the last line for 4 more bars?

  

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15. "Yeah, his hooks sound like the hook on this track"
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>Does the 4 bar hook and then repeats the last line for 4 more
>bars?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFGd2drY4OQ


  

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17. "that song bangs, though...prolly my fave track off Dream Deferred"
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16. "very valid assessment. no argument here, however,"
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as far as elite-level lyricists go, I'll take Sky's hooks over those of the rest of the guys like him that seem to do hooks just because it's what's expected of a songwriter...my man Lupe, for example.

so I'm choosing to be no more mad at the hook formula that he leans on than I was at, say, Rakim's, Tupac's or Gang Starr's.

  

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23. "What's wrong with LUPE hooks?"
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He had one of the most genius hooks of the year in MAGI.

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24. "I agree."
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>He had one of the most genius hooks of the year in MAGI.
That one was incredible.

I'm talking about F&L2 (which was pretty good overall) & Lasers (no). Not "Superstar", but the "Superstar" formula he used on those two albums. I don't like my rap stepped on.

  

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I hear you on that.

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18. "This brother's discography is immaculate....."
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just a seemly endless vault of dope music....


And co-sign his extraordinary ear for beats

his choice in production is damn near 2nd to none

  

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19. "He rocked the house last night at Blue Note with his band..."
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20. "this is dope to me"
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sky just knows how to put albums together, period, and that's an unsung skill imo. i dug the overall sound of this one, as well as the overarching concept

  

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22. "This is a damn good album"
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25. "while I don't like this quite as much as Dream Deferred..."
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Suicide Doors, Everthing's for Sale, See a Key, Asking Bodie for a Package and Falling out of the Sky are straight HEAT...and "Meadow of Trust" might be my favorite beat off either album.

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26. "I keep trying with Skyzoo, but I just can't seem to do it"
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His stuff on his own never clicks with me. And that's how I felt with this album; it can't quite hold my interest.

I just don't think I personally find him interesting on his own. I really like the Barrel Brothers album, but I find like Torae's presence provided some balance. I'm struggling to get through this new album.

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27. "very good point about Barrel Bros....I really enjoy Torae's verses"
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33. "Same here!"
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I knew when I heard them Sky x 9th joints waayy back dude had somethin, and when he hooked up with Tor and did them two Premier joints? I was amped...

Been stickin with Tor ever since, thru the mixtape, Double Barrel (one of my fav albums), the For/Off The Record albums - all FIYAH!!!

Skyzoo tho? Not so much... I really like his raps, but his beat selection off point when he on his own. Hell, I even felt Barrel Bros was zzzZZZ...

Also, someone tell Apollo Brown to lay off the drum machines and stick to the smack, he got that LOCKED, thx!!!

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28. "He did a Google Hangout last night...few things came out of it"
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First thing...J. Cole was suppose to be the last verse on Money Makes Us Happy...Cole tour schedule made that fall through...still could possibly work on something else with him

Wale was suppose to have a verse on Sweet Pursuit...

No beef between him and 9th Wonder...discussed his bar from Sweet Pursuit with 9th when 9th was recently in NY with Rapsody...

That's all I got...

  

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30. "Sky stay missing out on big collabs...."
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Lupe and John Legend was supposed to be on A Dream Deferred.

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29. "This shit is good...thx"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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32. "Between this, Lupe and Joey's albums"
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We've had incredibly well done albums this year with thematic lyricism at the heart of them. I'm not mad at all, Skyzoo has proven he's a lot more than a battle rapper (not that there's anything wrong with that really). He's even started doing creative things with his stage shows to continue the album experience into the live setting.

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34. ""money makes us happy" with black thought and bilal is jammin'"
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36. "sure is...really good song"
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35. "Anyone else know Skyzoo did some writing for Dre?"
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http://www.beatstars.com/blog/brooklyn-emcee-skyzoo-in-the-studio-with-dr-dre/

Not sure anything ell ever be released but good for Skyzoo regardless.

  

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37. "that's dope!"
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congrats to him.

  

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38. "This is the opposite of the drake/meek beef..."
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Like, this reaffirms my faith in hip hop. Skyzoo is an excellent writer. Very low on drama and very high on quality output. He has great features who are there because they're dope, not for name recognition.

On the other hand I'm old. I wonder if the youth are into this dude. People say we shouldn't care about if other people are rocking to it but that is what sets the path and what determines if artist like this will be a trickle, or if more young rappers take the lyrical route. I don't wanna be listening to the same artists for the next 30 years.

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39. "RE: Skyzoo "Music For My Friends" Discussion"
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Album is dull as fuck.

  

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40. "Yup."
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Hit the spot.

Skyzoo is a DOPE writer, but these beats? Nah...

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41. "dope."
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bit of a step back musically from Dream Deferred in my opinion, but also a step up from the boom bap he was doing beforehand. really enjoy this, the sort of album you can just put on and do chores to but you could also listen in real close if you wanted.


also, it's a real trip hearing that "Come Back to Me" beat under "See a Key", I used to listen to that beat all the time three years ago. cool to hear it on an album but I think I prefer it without vocals (no knock on Skyzoo and Jada, it's kind of a distracting beat).

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42. "i liked almost all of what he's done"
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i do like that he's growing a bit tho. i prefer this record to Dream Deferred, but I think Dream Deferred had his closet chances to making "hits" versus this very well-constructed piece he has now.

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43. "Who the fuck is this nigga!?!?!?! This nigga DOPE"
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Tha fuck!?!?

How y'all let shit like this be all whatever!!?!?!?

This shit incredible!!

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44. "just checking it now?"
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45. "Yeah, heard songs but never got to it"
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This is super enjoyable great music

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46. "yeah. have you checked for his past albums?"
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or are you just getting into him now? dude has been quite consistent for a while now and keeps getting better.

  

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48. "yeah, his music is never really transcendent but just consistently good...."
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which is perfectly fine. i always check for dude, i know what i'm getting, and i pretty much always enjoy his shit on some level.

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52. "A Dream Deferred is a beautiful album."
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My review for PopMatters from then:


Skyzoo may just be the most accessible "über lyrical miracle" rapper since Ghostface's heyday. He's an MC that seems custom fitted for these times. His flow acts like a falling Tetris piece, locked into a constant rhythm and yet able to assume a myriad of forms on its way to the end point. The voice follows suit, with a nasally drawl that feels very Houston or Atlanta yet backed by a gnarled sort of urban confidence that could only truly resonate from underneath the corner store street lights of 1990s Brooklyn. Being obsessed with the artform and the nuances of how much a great voice and delivery can push even subpar work into the spotlight, it's hard to convince myself that Skyzoo's nuanced delivery isn't the definitive bridge point between the new school's swaggering and the old school's dense formalism.

And yet all signs point to the fact that he's not: The Salvation, for all its positives, was at times criticized for Skyzoo's sticking to script as a rhymer (again, I'd argue the appeal is in the subtle nuances within his template) and at others simply for not being what it represented, an underground album for mainstream heads. The release barely cleared five figures, which on a longstanding independent like Duck Down is a hard figure to measure as a bystander, but through a Billboard lens just feels like an unworthy number for someone whose style is so rooted in dangling upon the border between obscurity and radio play.

A Dream Deferred appears on the heels of a pair of mixtapes, 2011's The Great Debater (admission: I never found time for it) and Theo vs. J.J., a release that was seemingly set up to display the differences between the aims of Salvation and Dream Deferred. If Salvation represented Skyzoo as Theo Huxtable, the rapper who knew success was just a rhyme and a beat away so long as his label supported his every move, then Dream Deferred is certainly Skyzoo seeing the world more from J.J. Evans' perspective, worried that maybe hope isn't enough to "make it through hysteria", though Skyzoo posits he's "made it through hysteria, show 'em how" late in the album. But that doesn't mean the album is a notably somber affair compared to his would-be coming out party; in fact, to Skyzoo's great credit, this is an album that expands on everything that Salvation did well while folding on most of its more questionable decisions.

In addition to a more focused effort on Skyzoo's part, the production is just on a whole different level. In part, this is because he's graduated from what's considered in the 21st century to be basic underground production to beats that bridge that void between boom bap and the grandeur that approaches larger artists like a J.Cole, Kanye West or Drake. Fans of Kanye West and Buckwild can coalesce here in equal measure, with about half the project guided by the steady hand of Illmind. The guy is just on another level here, for just one example the Late Registration levels of orchestral grandeur on the album opener "Dreams in a Basement". Or check how "Pockets Full" comes off as a Moment of Truth-era DJ Premier cut until its horn-driven outro without jarring the listener out of the vibe at all.

Addressing production without looking towards Illmind's (who moonlighted during Kanye's Cruel Summer sessions) "Give It Up" would be an accident. This is a track that's so rooted in the odd, wobbly histrionics of dubstep while maintaining a very deliberate grounding in mid-90s boom bap that it's amazing Illmind was able to hide this from Kanye's team. It's not the best track here, but for an army of hip-hop listeners that have wondered why density-focused artists like Skyzoo struggle to gain their shine they can now point to "Give It Up", claiming that this is a monument dedicated to both clubs and headphones with impunity.

After collaborating in full with Skyzoo on 2010's Live from the Tapedeck, Illmind appears in front or in back of six of the fourteen tracks here, providing a guiding light for other producers like 9th Wonder, Black Milk, DJ Khalil and Tall Black Guy to follow. The message is simple: embrace your most marketable qualities, but don't be afraid to expand the boundaries of those formulas. Hip-hop fans who were entranced by Black Milk's 2008 release Tronic will have some familiar feelings throughout this album.

However, even with all he's learned and all he's capable of, listening to Skyzoo certainly results in a feeling of impermeability. Even as he rocks increasingly ambitious production - and trust, Dream Deferred is one of 2012's great accomplishments - it's sometimes hard to get on Skyzoo's side as much as he seem tailored towards accessibility. He'll do the double back thing, where a line becomes a line within a triplet or a note becomes a pun, almost on impulse, as though he can't find a way out of a writing hole other than adjusting his word choice. And as subtle as his verbal display is, as region-abstract as I've presumed it can be, I'm not willing to argue it definitely is.

The professionalism Skyzoo exerts, then, sometimes works in a minorly antagonistic fashion to the work he's presenting here as the increasingly amazing production and intricate rhyme schemes fall into place. As impressed as I am by Dream Deferred, to the layman's ear it could certainly feel like an album that's less impressive than it is, if only because one nuance or another doesn't fit where they think it should. But these are truly minor nitpicks, as the old adage goes that dense rhymes plus fantastic production equals out to spinning the LP over and over in order to decode the puzzle.

To be truthful, in my nearly four years writing for PopMatters it's rare I've wished for a middle ground more than writing about this album. 8, 9? The difference is negligible, it's just a number. The idea is to listen, not to read.



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47. "I wish someone would book him in Detroit man..."
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at a jazz club with a full band.

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49. "damn O_E, i thought you'd be up on him"
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He's got quite a hefty discography and a consistent, if not always great, catalog of music.

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50. "I have to sift through the Lesson talking about Wiz Khalifah "
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You niggas don't talk about good music

Talk about the right shit and I cop

I come here TO FIND SHIT to BUY

As in, I BUY shit.

You nigga don't hype it enough.

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51. "He's one of my favorite ever"
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This and A DREAM Deffered are my shit

hell everything he does.

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53. "Yes, Dream Deferred is fantastic. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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55. "even that shit he did with 9th was good"
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and he was a FAR LESS savvy rapper then.

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54. "you mean these niggas don't hype it enough"
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but The Lesson ain't the Lesson of old.

but all that aside, get into his other shit.

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56. "lol...we been on it fam..."
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there's been a post for like all of his joints...including Barrel Brothers. I made a post for the song he did with Sean Price and Torae...Duck Down...talkin about how crazy his flow was...joint went wood. Only so much you can do.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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57. "like i don't take his music off my phone"
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whenever i reset my phone or wipe it clean all his shit gets added first

man that Dreams vs Reality mixtape was the shit too

@geahuwine

  

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58. "dude...I need to peep that....I'm stuck on Dream Deferred so much..."
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this weekend I did some side work at my crib. I just threw on DD and linked to my bluetooth speaker and let it bang the whole time...then straight into Barrel Bros.

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59. "that was so good"
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>man that Dreams vs Reality mixtape was the shit too

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60. "This nigga might be my favorite rapper at the moment. "
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Like, he's stellar. Not good. Not cool

Stellar

He got that OC-ish style that is just impeccable to me

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61. "I share the sentiment. "
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people say hes boring

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62. "i've heard boring too"
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He doesn't change his flow up much nor his patterns, but he's so damn good at his lane, it doesn't matter.

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63. "Nobody with above a 5th grade reading level says that"
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It's a fact

  

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64. "Lol"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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65. "This is top 5 in the last 5 years to me"
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This is a SPLENDID record.

Heartfelt, sincere. Fun and witty.

I'm having so much fun with this.

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66. "I still haven't really listened to this, and I don't know why"
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A Dream Deferred was one of my favorite albums of that year, and he was probably my favorite rapper for a minute. Love that album.

I need to give this album some run.

  

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67. "I'm in the same boat"
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Gave it one quick spin, didn't grab me, and I never went back to it. Despite knowing full well that Skyzoo's material often takes a while for me to appreciate, and then I love. Need to make amends for this.

"Yes I see all the nummmberrs... I still root for the dreeeamerrs... I thank God for the dreeeamerrs..." - Mos

  

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68. "RE: Skyzoo "Music For My Friends" Discussion"
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Quality LP

  

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69. "GOING BACK THROUGH THE DISCOGRAPHY"
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For some reason this album passed me by. Agree with the overwhelming sentiment on this thread. This album is dope.

I loved Peddlers Theme as well

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70. "He's rounded into a never-disappoints favorite"
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>For some reason this album passed me by. Agree with the
>overwhelming sentiment on this thread. This album is dope.
>
>I loved Peddlers Theme as well
>
>werd.

He's always on point lyrically and no matter who he works with the beat selection is immaculate.
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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71. "Ummm 'In Celebration of Us'!??! Good grief this dude is incredible"
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72. "After a few listens this album is crazy."
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73. "Dude. Cannot. Miss. "
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74. "Maybe it deserves its own post?"
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75. "Yes, it does"
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