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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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"A$AP Rocky - At.Long.Last.A$AP (tracklist + album cover link)"


  

          

album cover: http://static.stereogum.com/uploads/2015/05/21134309/ASAP-Rocky-AtLongLastASAP-560x560.jpg

Tracklist:
01 “Holy Ghost” (Feat. Joe Fox)
02 “Canal St.” (Feat. Bones)
03 “Fine Whine” (Feat. M.I.A., Future & Joe Fox)
04 “L$D”
05 “Excuse Me”
06 “JD”
07 “Lord Pretty Flacko Jodye 2″
08 “Electric Body” (Feat. Schoolboy Q)
09 “Jukebox Joints” (Feat. Kanye West & Joe Fox)
10 “Max B” (Feat. Joe Fox)
11 “Pharsyde” (Feat. Joe Fox)
12 “Wavybone” (Feat. Juicy J & UGK)
13 “Westside Highway” (Feat. James Fauntleroy)
14 “Better Things”
15 “M’$” (Feat. Lil’ Wayne)
16 “Dreams (Interlude)”
17 “Everyday” (Feat. Rod Stewart & Miguel)
18 “Back Home” (Feat. Mos Def, Acyde & Yams)

In stores June 2, 2005

http://www.stereogum.com/1803357/aap-rockys-at-long-last-aap-features-kanye-west-m-i-a-lil-wayne-ugk/news/

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I thought this Yams cover was pretty dope
May 21st 2015
1
RE: I thought this Yams cover was pretty dope
May 21st 2015
2
He should've gone with this one. The one he chose....
May 27th 2015
39
who is this joe fox dude? also that ye joint supposed to be dope
May 21st 2015
3
Yup. Joe Fox everywhere, no other A$AP members visible...
May 21st 2015
5
      that def seemed strange
May 24th 2015
21
Lol
May 21st 2015
4
Lulz at the Mos Def feature
May 21st 2015
6
why
May 22nd 2015
8
I'd argue a decent percentage of Mos's fans hate Rocky
May 22nd 2015
12
      Lulz
May 23rd 2015
14
How much you wanna bet hes gonna be singing?
May 23rd 2015
17
      Either rapping or yodeling.
May 23rd 2015
18
      And the rhymes in his songs are gonna be better than A$AP's raps
May 24th 2015
19
           ^^^Save your mad for when the album actually comes out
May 24th 2015
22
                You lost...the Mos song is the best on this horrible record Lulz
May 28th 2015
40
interesting features...but the leaks so far have been ass
May 22nd 2015
7
you didn't like Lord Pretty Flacko Joyde?
May 22nd 2015
9
      eh...he hasn't really wowed me since Live.Love.ASAP
May 23rd 2015
16
"electric body" f/ schoolboy q (link)
May 22nd 2015
10
this is nice..but it sounds like he's releasing a winter album in june
May 23rd 2015
15
ehhh, it's cool. that's it
May 24th 2015
20
Lol
May 22nd 2015
11
Actually pretty stoked for this.
May 22nd 2015
13
It's out there
May 25th 2015
23
I like this album ALOT after 1 listen.
May 25th 2015
24
He hustled CDs in London and lucked up, article below.
May 25th 2015
25
Yeah, it's really good.
May 25th 2015
26
This album is REALLY good.
May 26th 2015
27
It's King Thelonious and D Dot Omen
May 26th 2015
28
      thanks.
May 26th 2015
29
I'm really digging this album so far
May 26th 2015
30
How we feel about this Rita Ora line?
May 26th 2015
31
Rocky has a number of misogynist lyrics
May 26th 2015
33
RE: Rocky has a number of misogynist lyrics
May 26th 2015
35
      You're wrong, because this isn't a hip-hop beef
May 27th 2015
36
      RE: You're wrong, because this isn't a hip-hop beef
May 28th 2015
43
      Going at a non-rapper who u fucked is the most anti-Hip Hop shit ever
May 28th 2015
42
I believe it as far as I can throw Jared Lorenzen, breh
May 31st 2015
57
it's solid. probably better than his previous album
May 26th 2015
32
yo.
May 26th 2015
34
Better than the 1st album. Reminds me of th mixtapes
May 27th 2015
37
boring and horribly sequenced.
May 27th 2015
38
Black people: what do you like about this artist?
May 28th 2015
41
He's cool?
May 28th 2015
44
LOL
May 28th 2015
45
He's cool? What are you 12?
May 29th 2015
53
      I assumed he was joking.
May 30th 2015
55
You seem to be getting mad.
May 28th 2015
46
He's good for what he does.
May 28th 2015
47
i kinda wondered the same
May 29th 2015
48
This is why I asked black people
May 29th 2015
49
      Black people have been liking D- rappers since at least the '90s, breh
Jun 01st 2015
60
           doesn't fit the O_E agenda fam
Jun 01st 2015
61
           Nah, you're missing the point here
Jun 01st 2015
62
                cmon, dogg
Jun 01st 2015
64
Only heard it once, but honestly this album killed it.
May 29th 2015
50
I chuckled at this
May 29th 2015
51
RE: Black people: what do you like about this artist?
May 29th 2015
52
I think he's hilarious but it hasn't always come out in his music
May 31st 2015
56
I'm sure he has a really swell twitter account
Jun 01st 2015
58
      the most likely answer is 'I like the music'
Jun 01st 2015
59
           This is definitely not true
Jun 01st 2015
63
                I agree with this
Jun 01st 2015
65
                     I'm with you brotha
Jun 01st 2015
69
great ear for production. and then gets out of the way of the production
Jun 01st 2015
67
      Hey, I respect this reply.
Jun 01st 2015
68
           Lol man.
Jun 01st 2015
70
this album is everything i expected from him
May 30th 2015
54
RE: A$AP Rocky - At.Long.Last.A$AP (tracklist + album cover link)
Jun 01st 2015
66
I fuck with this.
Jun 01st 2015
71
Canal St. is the only song that really sticks
Jun 07th 2015
72

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1. "I thought this Yams cover was pretty dope"
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http://www.themathhattan.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/asap-rocky-at-long-last-asap-album-covers.jpg

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2. "RE: I thought this Yams cover was pretty dope"
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Def better than what he went with

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39. "He should've gone with this one. The one he chose...."
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...is somewhat creepy and somewhat confusing to look at. This one is clean, simple, and makes his statement effectively.




Since 1976

  

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3. "who is this joe fox dude? also that ye joint supposed to be dope "
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from all the reports.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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5. "Yup. Joe Fox everywhere, no other A$AP members visible..."
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21. "that def seemed strange"
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like no Ferg at least

  

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4. "Lol"
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Lol

  

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6. "Lulz at the Mos Def feature"
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8. "why"
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that's the one I'm most interested in

  

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12. "I'd argue a decent percentage of Mos's fans hate Rocky"
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14. "Lulz"
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n/m

  

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17. "How much you wanna bet hes gonna be singing?"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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18. "Either rapping or yodeling."
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19. "And the rhymes in his songs are gonna be better than A$AP's raps"
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22. "^^^Save your mad for when the album actually comes out"
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40. "You lost...the Mos song is the best on this horrible record Lulz"
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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7. "interesting features...but the leaks so far have been ass"
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9. "you didn't like Lord Pretty Flacko Joyde?"
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that shit is NICE

LSD sucks ass tho

  

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16. "eh...he hasn't really wowed me since Live.Love.ASAP"
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10. ""electric body" f/ schoolboy q (link)"
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http://www.audiomack.com/song/random-2/electric-body

this is better but the beat switches/"movements" have already lost their novelty. that's 3 songs in a row with at least one beat switch. maybe 2-3 beats per song is a theme of the album. perhaps rocky has had "a name i call myself" on repeat for the past year or so...

  

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15. "this is nice..but it sounds like he's releasing a winter album in june"
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20. "ehhh, it's cool. that's it"
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11. "Lol"
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Lol

  

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13. "Actually pretty stoked for this."
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From what I've heard, including the SchoolBoyQ feature released today, I'm actually really excited for this album!

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23. "It's out there"
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One listen in and it's WAAAAY better than the last album. It's a fun summer album.

  

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24. "I like this album ALOT after 1 listen."
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The joint with Ye?
Dilla knockoff?

And this Joe Fox guy, before I do my own googles...
Anybody know anything about him?
He have any solo material?

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25. "He hustled CDs in London and lucked up, article below."
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http://www.highsnobiety.com/2015/05/22/who-is-joe-fox-asap-rocky/


...The fact that he didn't know who Rocky was is kinda amazing. I wonder if someone is gonna upload the CD he was selling?

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26. "Yeah, it's really good. "
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Weird that L$D and Everyday are singles as they're some of the weaker songs on there. They do improve when heard with the context of the album though.

  

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27. "This album is REALLY good."
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It definitely delivers much closer to the "promise" of Long.Live.A$AP than Live.Love.A$AP did.

there's some pretty crazy shit on here.

is that track with Mos Def and Yams a DJ Premier beat? kinda sounds it but could also not be.

edit: btw, Wavybone is like a million fire emojis.

  

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28. "It's King Thelonious and D Dot Omen"
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>is that track with Mos Def and Yams a DJ Premier beat? kinda
>sounds it but could also not be.

  

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29. "thanks."
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30. "I'm really digging this album so far"
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31. "How we feel about this Rita Ora line?"
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"I swear that bitch Rita Ora got a big mouth/Next time I see her might curse the bitch out/Kicked the bitch out once cause she bitched out/Spit my kids out, jizzed up all in her mouth and made the bitch bounce."

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33. "Rocky has a number of misogynist lyrics "
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but this lyric is over the top. Talking that way about some fictional woman is one thing, but talking about another person like that is flat out wrong.

This is a tangent, but I feel the same way about the guy Kendrick dissed on 'These Walls'. Talk about someone all you want on your own, but it's wrong to aire out your grief in the general public.

  

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35. "RE: Rocky has a number of misogynist lyrics "
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A lot worse has been said in hip hop beefs in the past than that line. Some of the greatest diss records of all time got personal against their opponent, that's what makes them great. No Vaseline and hit em up both come to mind. I hate how hip hop music is being softened on all fronts. Producers can't sample like they used to because rap music is a business now and everyone wants their cut. Now people are offended by lyrics? Political correctness will be the death of hip hop as we once knew it.

  

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36. "You're wrong, because this isn't a hip-hop beef"
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>Now people are offended by
>lyrics? Political correctness will be the death of hip hop as
>we once knew it.

and the thing is, he wouldn't have thrown those bars at Minaj because THEN it would be hip-hop beef...this is as PC as he can get launching salvos at someone who can't clap back on wax.

It was a bitch made move, similar to when Jay-Z fucked up talking about Nas's baby moms on wax.

  

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43. "RE: You're wrong, because this isn't a hip-hop beef"
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I read the article and see your point now, I didnt realize they had a history together.

  

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42. "Going at a non-rapper who u fucked is the most anti-Hip Hop shit ever"
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>A lot worse has been said in hip hop beefs in the past than
>that line. Some of the greatest diss records of all time got
>personal against their opponent, that's what makes them great.
>No Vaseline and hit em up both come to mind. I hate how hip
>hop music is being softened on all fronts. Producers can't
>sample like they used to because rap music is a business now
>and everyone wants their cut. Now people are offended by
>lyrics? Political correctness will be the death of hip hop as
>we once knew it.

And it's cornball middle school grade corny

Nobody does that

That isn't Hip-Hop

That's sensitive bitch shit



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57. "I believe it as far as I can throw Jared Lorenzen, breh"
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32. "it's solid. probably better than his previous album"
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i keep seeing the word "experimental" tossed around re: this album and i'm just not hearing that in these songs. it sounds like a polished version of the yams aesthetic plus danger mouse. there is this interesting ebb and flow of tense, dark minimalist tracks juxtaposed with lush psychedelica and throwback soul samples but i'm not sure that it works. there are a lot of starts and stops throughout the record. some of that is due to the incessant mid-song beat switches and/or interludes and some of it is from the different style songs placed next to each other. i kind of wish he would have stuck with one style or maybe split it into 2 or 3 "sides" of the album

to rocky's credit he sounded at home on everything. he's rarely saying anything of worth but he makes it sound really good

q's verse on 'electric body' is fantastic. ye's verse on 'jukebox joints' is embarrassing. i can't believe he allowed it to be released. i'm not sure what joe fox adds to this album

i think 'multiply' should have made the cut. it's better than most of the tracks on here

  

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34. "yo."
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this album is horrific.

gave it a front-to-back full listen at work today and i was blown away at how bad some of it is was

i'm listening now and i think the thing that really gets at me is just how every single thing he says is an absolute cliche

and i listen to wayne and thug and plenty of people who say a whole lot of nothing. but it feels disingenuous to that point that it's really unlistenable for me

his persona never changed but he really just sounds like someone trying to fill in the blanks at every single turn. sometimes i wonder if he's so dumb that he's literally incapable of introspection

i've said this before, but i loved his first tape and consider it a borderline classic, but everything since then has been middling at best and horrible at worst. front-to-back, this album is the worst case scenario

hey, maybe some of it will grow on me with time. but sheesh, at least the last album had gunplay

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37. "Better than the 1st album. Reminds me of th mixtapes"
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I dig this. I think Yams' made him go a lil introspective

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38. "boring and horribly sequenced."
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41. "Black people: what do you like about this artist? "
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Honest question, and only for black people, sorry

What is appealing about him?

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44. "He's cool?"
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I think he's a rapper that is actually cool. He has a good voice. He can ride a beat and supports his team. Oh and he doesn't sound like anyone else.

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45. "LOL"
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>Oh and he
>doesn't sound like anyone else.

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53. "He's cool? What are you 12?"
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55. "I assumed he was joking. "
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Nobody black and over 21 thinks he is "cool"

Maybe "funny" or "that nigga crazy right there" or
"that's a dope watch"

But "cool?"

Nope.

  

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46. "You seem to be getting mad."
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47. "He's good for what he does."
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That's all I have to say.

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48. "i kinda wondered the same"
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i honestly dont get it
he is a D- rapper lyrically
his last album was actually trash
(even though it had a couple joints i fucked with)

but i really dont know why he gets as much burn as he does honestly
i mean i do but i dont.

  

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49. "This is why I asked black people"
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Because *most of us* have a sibling, uncle or
are ourselves as cool and edgy a personality, so
that can't be it. I don't need A$AP to feel cool,
or for fashion. Most of us grew up with uncles who are
firefighters who dress better and got super fly women

Don't get me wrong: Coolness is never IRRELEVANT

But the whole "edgy" thing used to be relevant only
if you were GOOD

Like, Jay-Z is cool, but he can rap. So could Kane. So
could Rakim. Same with Nas. Same with Kendrick. Hell,
Drake can actually rap.

But A$AP? I can understand white America fetishization..
...I saw that Lana Del Rey video with him and was like
"yup, now I get." Video was legitimately the white woman's
sexual fantasy....so I get it.

Maybe there's a generation of upper middle class black
kid that didn't grow up with "coolness" as a part of
their household

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60. "Black people have been liking D- rappers since at least the '90s, breh"
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I mean...

look at what shit was most popular in the '00s.
No Limit was a thing.
Dipset was a thing.
NORE was a "thing", perhaps even more so than his time with Capone.

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61. "doesn't fit the O_E agenda fam"
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62. "Nah, you're missing the point here"
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Every group likes bad music, we're talking about something
different here, though

>I mean...
>
>look at what shit was most popular in the '00s.

>No Limit was a thing.

That was the South feeling left out of rap and music,
plus most of the South is still in Jim Crow, so they were
mostly happy at a black man getting over, which I fully
support

Harlem has a long legacy of black genius from Langston Hughes
to Big L. A$AP does nothing for black people from Harlem, which
is why most of his appeal is from white people

>Dipset was a thing.

a) All of the visible members were better rappers, much better,
than A$AP

b) White kids actually made Dipset the cult phenomenon that
they became. Rap Genius founder dude says Dipset era Cam'ron
was one of his inspirations, for example

>NORE was a "thing", perhaps even more so than his time with
>Capone.

NORE was a "thing" mostly because of the Nas co-sign, and pretty
much fell off right after that first album

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64. "cmon, dogg"
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>That was the South feeling left out of rap and music,
>plus most of the South is still in Jim Crow, so they were
>mostly happy at a black man getting over, which I fully
>support

the South had long been in rap music before No Limit.
No Limit was a populist revolt, I'll give you that.
but Geto Boys, UGK, Kast, Ball & G (on the low, P.A. and 'em) take a diarrhea-fied shit on most of the core members catalog (their best rappers were the bench: Mia, Mac, etc).

Master P was to 2Pac what the Kia Amanti is to a Mercedes S-Class

C-Murder was a poor man's stereotypical "West Coast gangsta rapper"

and Silkk never met a beat he could catch.

BASURA.

Cash Money was a much better version of what No Limit was doing (minus Birdman).

that "did it on the cheap" crew bullshit spawned the Ruff Ryderz, which lived and died on how high DMX's buzz was... still allowed too many weak-ass beats to be cosigned.

>Harlem has a long legacy of black genius from Langston Hughes
>to Big L. A$AP does nothing for black people from Harlem,
>which
>is why most of his appeal is from white people
>
>>Dipset was a thing.
>
>a) All of the visible members were better rappers, much
>better,
>than A$AP
>
>b) White kids actually made Dipset the cult phenomenon that
>they became. Rap Genius founder dude says Dipset era Cam'ron
>was one of his inspirations, for example

Really? Even Juelz Santana (of whom I'm a bit of a fan)?
back in '03... once you got past Cam it was a SHARP decline. JR Writer might have been the best rapper behind Cam, Juelz got better over time, but there is no way you're gonna tell me Jim Jones was a better rapper than Rocky, LOL. Jim Jones was probably the most visible member of Dipset besides Cam and Juelz, and his rap skills were suspect...

(aside from "Dutty Clap", that is. his ad-lib skills were GDLK)

regarding the "Harlem" component, when I first learned of Ocho Seis I thought it was wack that he decided to rap like a dude NOT from NYC, but when I consider how old he is, and what rap he likely was exposed to in the key years... it makes sense. It's not totally a bad idea for artists to honestly follow their muse in that way. When it's part of some trend-hopping bullshit, then it's a problem.

But then again, there's Joey Bada$$. Whose whole career is kind of a "fuck you" to 2000s A&Rs.


>>NORE was a "thing", perhaps even more so than his time with
>>Capone.
>
>NORE was a "thing" mostly because of the Nas co-sign, and
>pretty
>much fell off right after that first album

Possibly, but Black folks loved the hell out of "Superthug".
(I personally hated the shit out of it, and songs like it caused me to point at the Neptunes as a catalyst in the fuckin' up of rap music... a stance I've somewhat backpedaled since)

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50. "Only heard it once, but honestly this album killed it."
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and by "it" I mean the incredible run of albums I've been enjoying since 'Cadillactica'....


gonna give it another spin on the train ride home from work, but right now, I'm listening for Kanye's and Wayne's verses (damn, I just typed that out loud).

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51. "I chuckled at this"
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>right now, I'm listening for Kanye's and Wayne's verses
>(damn, I just typed that out loud).
>
>

  

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52. "RE: Black people: what do you like about this artist? "
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On his tracks he has charisma, but I wouldn't want to hang with someone like that in real life because he's just too ignorant.

Like you said in a post, most black people of our generation have a relationship with someone who has a real sense of coolness AND is actually a decent human being.

Rocky would just seem like a knucklehead. He'd be a young cousin who you would just hope would get some perspective about his life an grow into maturity.

  

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56. "I think he's hilarious but it hasn't always come out in his music"
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he's very much an artist of the 2010s, maybe the last few years of the Aughts

he sometimes reminds me of a less tweaked Lil B

  

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58. "I'm sure he has a really swell twitter account"
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>he's very much an artist of the 2010s, maybe the last few
>years of the Aughts
>
>he sometimes reminds me of a less tweaked Lil B

But I asked about the artist

  

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59. "the most likely answer is 'I like the music'"
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which is the only reason I listen to an artist.

all the image shit is irrelevant, unless it overrides the music to a point that it's a distraction.

I'm sure this is true of any listener, Black or otherwise

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63. "This is definitely not true"
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>which is the only reason I listen to an artist.
>
>all the image shit is irrelevant, unless it overrides the
>music to a point that it's a distraction.
>
>I'm sure this is true of any listener, Black or otherwise

This is astonishingly, tragically false, and I expect
better from you

People liked Chief Keef because it's entertaining to some
(white kids, black middle class kids) to watch and listen to
black genocide, not because he makes good music



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65. "I agree with this "
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>People liked Chief Keef because it's entertaining to some
>(white kids, black middle class kids) to watch and listen to
>black genocide, not because he makes good music

assessment of Keef, because the only thing I've ever liked where he was involved was that one song on Yeezus. his whole shit is bullshit.

the whole "Drill Music" phenomenon has the stink of "ghetto tourism" that might have always been around rap music, especially post-NWA but to such a perverse degree that it can't be ignored. shit's disgusting, when you really think about the conditions that brought about that scene.

I wouldn't put Rocky in the same boat as Keef though.
He's a goofnugget in many ways but not so "look at him, he's black and ______" like all that drill shit.

I think he's kind of hit-and-miss with his music actually, but the things that "hit", how can you fault any listener for being interested? especially when they're as "promoted" as he is.

  

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69. "I'm with you brotha"
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>>People liked Chief Keef because it's entertaining to some
>>(white kids, black middle class kids) to watch and listen to
>>black genocide, not because he makes good music
>
>assessment of Keef, because the only thing I've ever liked
>where he was involved was that one song on Yeezus. his whole
>shit is bullshit.
>
>the whole "Drill Music" phenomenon has the stink of "ghetto
>tourism" that might have always been around rap music,
>especially post-NWA but to such a perverse degree that it
>can't be ignored. shit's disgusting, when you really think
>about the conditions that brought about that scene.
>
>I wouldn't put Rocky in the same boat as Keef though.
>He's a goofnugget in many ways but not so "look at him, he's
>black and ______" like all that drill shit.
>
>I think he's kind of hit-and-miss with his music actually, but
>the things that "hit", how can you fault any listener for
>being interested? especially when they're as "promoted" as he
>is.

This makes some sense

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67. "great ear for production. and then gets out of the way of the production"
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he rides the beat better (ayo) than most rappers. he's not better than any of contemporaries, but he's not trash truck juice on the mic lyrically. there's always gonna be spot in mainstream rap for a dude just flowing laid back over nice instrumentals.

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68. "Hey, I respect this reply. "
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>he rides the beat better (ayo) than most rappers. he's not
>better than any of contemporaries, but he's not trash truck
>juice on the mic lyrically. there's always gonna be spot in
>mainstream rap for a dude just flowing laid back over nice
>instrumentals.

So much so that I'll give his stuff another listen

(I am, however, on my fifth "another listen" with this
nigga, and after every one I'm like "naw, he sucks")

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70. "Lol man."
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I've given this album like 10 spins man.

on the subway.

off the subway.

on the surround sound.

on the studio monitors.

with the windows opened.

with the windows closed.

on a Mac, with Windows opened.

"it" is there, but I just don't get "it".....like the music is (cool?) and what he (does?) with it. He aint (wack?), and he aint killing shit, but for his lane, it's like......ok, I could see how that could be a thing to some people.

this shit made me browse drop crotch sweat pants on eBay, and had me like extensively looking for a pair that I would actually cop....and I ended up being like "nah, but I could see how they would look right on the right person that's into that"....that's the metaphor for this album to me. There are maybe some songs I could relisten to (regularly?) but like.....meh.

lol I won't call it wack anymore tho. I know he's going for that White dollar, and he possibly could have delivered that without truly compromising his (sound?) so....I guess there's some redeemable (B?)lackness in that.

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54. "this album is everything i expected from him"
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half good half trash... definitely not an album i see myself bumping in the summer...

  

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66. "RE: A$AP Rocky - At.Long.Last.A$AP (tracklist + album cover link)"
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I don't listen to rap albums with Rod Stewart involvement.

  

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71. "I fuck with this. "
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L$D yes.

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72. "Canal St. is the only song that really sticks"
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The album is cool.

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