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melmag
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"Poll question: LWFC or BOBS?"


  

          

Really I felt both were overrated; LWFC being too rigid & contrived, and BOBS just all over the place thematically. but both are lauded as classics

The Light or Ms Fat Booty? Umi Says or 6th Sense?

better album?

Poll result (109 votes)
LWFC (56 votes)Vote
BOBS (53 votes)Vote

  

  

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Neither were overrated, insecure hipster. Both are outstanding.
May 19th 2015
1
^^^^
May 19th 2015
6
^^^^^
May 19th 2015
8
^^^^^^
May 19th 2015
10
^^^^^
May 19th 2015
13
^^^^
May 19th 2015
23
^^^^
May 20th 2015
30
/post
May 20th 2015
34
**GOLF CLAPS**
May 21st 2015
39
....and it's true too! n/m
Mar 18th 2016
44
what i came to say
Mar 19th 2016
49
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oct 26th 2017
78
^^^^Damn straight.
Oct 30th 2017
102
this the only reply that matters.
Oct 30th 2017
103
BOBS is one of the best post-96 Hip Hop albums.
May 19th 2015
2
I go back to BOBS often
May 19th 2015
3
man, late 99 into 2000 was one of my fav periods ever
May 19th 2015
4
HA! Man, that shelby lynne album does not get the props it deserves
May 19th 2015
19
great GREAT album
May 20th 2015
37
Ghost Dog soundtrack + The Unseen came out around then too
May 19th 2015
28
yup, and i forgot about dead prez!
May 20th 2015
36
Best hip-hop and R&B albums of the decade dropped in its first month lol
Mar 19th 2016
56
TIE. seriously
May 19th 2015
5
The production on LWFC is still crazy as shit, maybe even underrated
May 19th 2015
7
That intro, plus the "last page" of Vibe that month, was how I
May 19th 2015
14
I rocked BOBS more but both were classics.
May 19th 2015
9
I picked BOBS just to tie up the poll at 5...lets keep it that way...
May 19th 2015
11
Honestly depends on how I'm feeling
May 19th 2015
12
both outstanding. LWFC more cohesive > soulquarian production
May 19th 2015
15
no snark
May 19th 2015
16
      He does say C double O on Time Traveling
May 19th 2015
21
           sure sounds like it
May 20th 2015
31
           I've always heard it as "C to the O..."
Mar 19th 2016
48
                Man I wish you were right.
Mar 27th 2016
69
gotta be lwfc for me
May 19th 2015
17
black on both sides
May 19th 2015
18
Black on Both Sides, by a good bit
May 19th 2015
20
Black On Both Sides is my personal favorite album ever.
May 19th 2015
22
Black On Both Sides...both are classics
May 19th 2015
24
Hard choice but I will go with BOBS
May 19th 2015
25
this is impossible
May 19th 2015
26
I'm rollin with LWFC
May 19th 2015
27
I cant pick, but I liked both those albums more than Reflection Eternal
May 20th 2015
29
RE: LWFC or BOBS?
May 20th 2015
32
Nag Champa is one of the best hip-hop songs ever made.
May 20th 2015
33
      !!!!! RE: Nag Champa is one of the best hip-hop songs ever made.
Mar 17th 2016
42
      that song and "thelonious" are just so fucking smooth!
Mar 19th 2016
53
Mos Def ALL DAY
May 20th 2015
35
love both
May 20th 2015
38
better bars: Mos ... better beats: Com
May 21st 2015
40
I can dig that when comparing these two
Mar 17th 2016
43
I'm good with this position also
Mar 19th 2016
52
^^^
Mar 17th 2016
41
LWFC
Mar 18th 2016
45
#LeaveItTied
Mar 19th 2016
46
BOBS is all around better to me
Mar 19th 2016
47
Yeah Hip-Hop is ridiculous and seems to never be mentioned.
Mar 19th 2016
50
      I love that song so much.
Mar 19th 2016
58
           We sort of tske this album for granted
Mar 20th 2016
60
                Yeah it does...
Mar 20th 2016
61
                RE: We sort of tske this album for granted
Mar 20th 2016
63
Side Poll: The 6th Sense vs Mathematics
Mar 19th 2016
51
Mathematics
Mar 19th 2016
54
+ - × / % ÷
Mar 19th 2016
55
Man fuck off.
Mar 19th 2016
57
I think 6th is more important to the album it's on
Oct 26th 2017
80
      Yea I think this is very accurate.
Oct 26th 2017
81
LWFC
Mar 20th 2016
59
Yea me too.
Mar 20th 2016
62
RE: LWFC or BOBS?
Mar 20th 2016
64
not overrated but One Day > LWFC and Blackstar > BOBS
Mar 22nd 2016
65
I feel the oppposite
Oct 26th 2017
77
      Man I know exactly what you're talking about.
Oct 26th 2017
79
           See, Train of Thought was highly anticipated by me though
Oct 26th 2017
83
                Yea good call actually.
Oct 26th 2017
84
lwfc "rigid and contrived"? GTFOOHWTB.
Mar 23rd 2016
66
RE: lwfc "rigid and contrived"? GTFOOHWTB.
Mar 26th 2016
68
BOBS
Mar 26th 2016
67
Wait - THOSE are the songs you pick out from that album...
Mar 27th 2016
70
      RE: Wait - THOSE are the songs you pick out from that album...
Mar 28th 2016
71
           RE: Wait - THOSE are the songs you pick out from that album...
Mar 28th 2016
72
LWFC
Mar 28th 2016
73
LWFC sounds better to me now than BOBS does n/m
Mar 28th 2016
74
LWFC is in another league to me.
Mar 28th 2016
75
Mos' emcee performance was superior to Comm's on LWCF
Oct 29th 2017
97
      If you're talking about Common here I agree 10000000%
Oct 29th 2017
98
      Mos *was* the better emcee.
Oct 29th 2017
99
           I think Mos and Comm are pretty even, personally.
Oct 30th 2017
101
           NOW THE TRUTH COMES OUT!!!!
Oct 31st 2017
104
                Production and feel are big components of how I absorb an album
Nov 02nd 2017
106
                     Agree with this a TRILLION percent.
Nov 02nd 2017
108
bump
Oct 25th 2017
76
already voted
Oct 26th 2017
82
Neither is overrated.
Oct 26th 2017
85
AWESOME that my LWFC vote tied it at 40...
Oct 26th 2017
86
and my LWFC vote but it over the top
Oct 26th 2017
87
Speech is my hammer, bang the world into shape now let it fall
Oct 26th 2017
88
as an admitted Mos stan, even I am scratching my head a little
Oct 27th 2017
89
I agree re: the Busta joint but ...
Oct 27th 2017
90
      I like the Busta joint now more than I did originally
Oct 27th 2017
91
      RE: I like the Busta joint now more than I did originally
Oct 27th 2017
93
      I'm irrationally anti-remix ...
Oct 29th 2017
96
      I don't disagree
Oct 27th 2017
92
           Yea I agree.
Oct 29th 2017
95
           agree w/ everything you said
Nov 02nd 2017
107
Broke the tie in favor of LWFC
Oct 29th 2017
94
BOBS all day
Oct 29th 2017
100
I voted BOBs just to make it 50/50. No one else should vote
Nov 01st 2017
105
Had to go with LWFC
Nov 03rd 2017
109
"L.W.F.C." Gets My Vote
Nov 07th 2017
110

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1. "Neither were overrated, insecure hipster. Both are outstanding. "
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39. "**GOLF CLAPS**"
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103. "this the only reply that matters. "
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2. "BOBS is one of the best post-96 Hip Hop albums. "
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3. "I go back to BOBS often"
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It's the best project Mos has delivered IMO. I'm not big on Soulquarians era Common. I dig it. I just prefer the No-ID era that proceeded it.

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4. "man, late 99 into 2000 was one of my fav periods ever"
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BOBS set it off, going into fall. and LWFC opened spring.

and everything in between:

2001
midnite vultures
when the pawn
amplified
voodoo
I am Shelby lynn
supreme clientele
nia

etc.

Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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19. "HA! Man, that shelby lynne album does not get the props it deserves "
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in soul circles.

Great album

  

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37. "great GREAT album"
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it rips your guts out in the same way meshell's "bitter" does.

dropped the same day as "voodoo" too, so I slept on it until later. but when I finally got to it, I was blown away big time.

and yeah, I agree, I wish it would get more love from soul music fans. at the time, it really connected the dots for me between contemporary soul and country platforms.


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28. "Ghost Dog soundtrack + The Unseen came out around then too"
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that was a good time

  

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36. "yup, and i forgot about dead prez!"
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great time.

Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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56. "Best hip-hop and R&B albums of the decade dropped in its first month lol"
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Voodoo and Supreme Clientele.

And in 2000 you also get:
Vocalcity (Luomo)
Pop (Gas)
Multila (Vladislav Delay)
Felt Mountain (Goldfrapp)
De Stijl (White Stripes)
Rated R (QOTSA)
XTRMNTR (Primal Scream)
some underrated albums for older bands - Machina II (Smashing Pumpkins), Bloodflowers (the Cure), and NYC Ghoss & Flowers (Sonic Youth)
and Kid A!

  

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5. "TIE. seriously"
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i can't choose one over the other

these are "my" classics. the LPs that defined the era *I* grew up in

both are just fantastic pieces of creative work

  

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7. "The production on LWFC is still crazy as shit, maybe even underrated "
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Even that Fela intro, one of my favorite Drum tracks EVER

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got introduced to Fela.

  

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9. "I rocked BOBS more but both were classics."
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11. "I picked BOBS just to tie up the poll at 5...lets keep it that way..."
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Both are classics to me...

  

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12. "Honestly depends on how I'm feeling"
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both are OUTSTANDING hip hop albums

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15. "both outstanding. LWFC more cohesive > soulquarian production"
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''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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16. "no snark"
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but isn't it C - O - Double M - O to the N.

What's CdoubleO?

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21. "He does say C double O on Time Traveling"
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Not sure what he means though lol

  

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31. "sure sounds like it"
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''i went from bashful to asshole to international''- CdoubleO

  

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48. "I've always heard it as "C to the O...""
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not "C double O.."

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69. "Man I wish you were right."
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I just listened to it so hopeful that I had been hearing it wrong all these years......but he definitely says "double" and now that you bring "C to the O..." to my attention it's even more mind-blowing that he would have made such a terrible, blatant blunder on an otherwise amazing album.

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17. "gotta be lwfc for me"
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time travellin to heat to cold blooded to dooinit is an AMAZING run of tracks for side a of record production wise. thats the ideal soulquarian sound to me. The light is aiight too, but i was sick of it by the time the album came out.


always thought the title was corny, on the nose and unimaginative... guess that was a sign of things to come with com

  

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18. "black on both sides"
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20. "Black on Both Sides, by a good bit"
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Both are great, but the roots/soulquarians groove was a little bit too polite for me

  

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22. "Black On Both Sides is my personal favorite album ever."
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But both are incredible.

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24. "Black On Both Sides...both are classics"
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25. "Hard choice but I will go with BOBS "
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26. "this is impossible"
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2 of the most important albums in my Hip-Hop life

  

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27. "I'm rollin with LWFC"
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Nag Champa/Thelonious were damn near life changing for me

  

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29. "I cant pick, but I liked both those albums more than Reflection Eternal"
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& i liked them more than the Black Star album as well (which id give an 8/10)

LWFC and BOBS are 10/10 in my book though.


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32. "RE: LWFC or BOBS?"
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I voted for LWFC.

I have huge respect though for BOBS. Mos was on a roll in that era. Too many memorable moments in that album even tracks where he is not rapping like 'Climb', 'Rock n Roll' or 'Umi Say'.

Mos was rapping his ass off. For an album with different producers it was very coherent.

But mayne LWFC was life changing as someone has alluded. I believe that is Com's peak as an hiphop artist, whatever he tried to achieve with LWFC he achieved it and surpassed it.

He managed to capture the spirit of the time (2000 AD). Year 2000 was more exciting than year 2010 in terms of anticipation of what the millennium had in store for us.

An Album that was difficult to skip a song.

It hipped me onto Fela, Tony Allen and Afrobeat.

Nag Champa would stay on repeat for hours.

This was one album i could work out on, make love listen to it, study listening to it, party to and cry to. It managed to stir up all types of emotions depending on the mood.

Probably my all time favourite hiphop album.

  

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33. "Nag Champa is one of the best hip-hop songs ever made."
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So beautiful in so many ways. That beat is hypnotizing.

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42. "!!!!! RE: Nag Champa is one of the best hip-hop songs ever made."
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>So beautiful in so many ways. That beat is hypnotizing.

Good gaawd yes it is

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53. "that song and "thelonious" are just so fucking smooth!"
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35. "Mos Def ALL DAY"
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38. "love both"
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But LWFC has way more filler (imo):
Everything up through The Light is slamming but then it starts to get real spotty real quick:
Funky for You
The Questions
A Film Called (Pimp)
Payback is a Grandmother

None of these are bad or unlistenable - I like all of them well enough - but they're lagging. I also skip the Pops track, and as much as I *love* Song for Assata, for whatever reason I skip it these days.

Compare w/BOBS:
Rock n Roll is the *only* track I *always* skip (probably the worst track b/w the two)
I've always thought that "Do It Now" feels a bit out of place (still a good track though)
But other than that? The second half of the album lags a bit more than the first, but I listen to BOBS top to bottom al the time and it stays in pretty steady rotation for me. I pull LWFC out far less often and skip around on the lp a lot more.

Both are great albums, but BOBS edges out by a more than a bit in my book.



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40. "better bars: Mos ... better beats: Com"
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43. "I can dig that when comparing these two"
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52. "I'm good with this position also"
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41. "^^^"
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45. "LWFC"
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enjoyed BOBS too...but I always find myself listening to LWFC....I was just playing it at work earlier this week or last I think.... Plus I think I love Nag Champa, Time Travelin, Geto Heaven, Funky For You (Lawd, Bilal KILT IT at the very end), 6th Sense, Cold Blooded, Dooinit, Thelonious, etc way more than anything I can think of off the top of my head from BOBS.....not that it wasn't dope too, it's just...I LOVE that album.....

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46. "#LeaveItTied"
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47. "BOBS is all around better to me"
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I play it frequently now but I haven't listened to Water in a few years now. There's a few so gs I go back to but what Mos did was absolutely astounding. That opener over the Diamond D beat? Jesus Christ.

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50. "Yeah Hip-Hop is ridiculous and seems to never be mentioned."
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58. "I love that song so much."
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One of my most-revisited tracks from that album. Top 3 at least.

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60. "We sort of tske this album for granted"
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Look at the 25 year old rappers now and what they're coming up with pales in comparison. This album had a maturity thst you just don't see anymore.

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61. "Yeah it does..."
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Songs like Love, Speed Law, Got, New World Water, Habitat, Mr. N and Mathematics are great conceptual songs with great social commentary.

Like I said, the only thing that would've helped this album was the elimation of Rock N Roll and Climb. And it's not even that I dislike those songs but the album tends to drag for me at the end and those are the two that really break of the flow and cohesiveness of the album for me. And really more so Climb, even though I like that one better than Rock N Roll, because it just seems to completely halt the entire album.

  

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63. "RE: We sort of tske this album for granted"
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Exactly….still don't get how brothers who rocked that ish in that era can support the junk that is 95% of what is dropped today….the maturity of both Com and Mos in that era only added to the flavor of those releases….

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51. "Side Poll: The 6th Sense vs Mathematics"
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54. "Mathematics"
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55. "+ - × / % ÷"
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57. "Man fuck off."
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Ha. No way I can choose between these two. Mom vs. Dad.

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80. "I think 6th is more important to the album it's on"
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of the two, it's the heart and soul of the album and that's why it's in the middle of the sequence. If you try to take it out, the album falls apart because it's the transitive piece.

But I'd rather hear Math anyday of the week. Mos was more in tune with the beat than Com was with 6th and it really shows on his performance. For my money it's definitely the better song.

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81. "Yea I think this is very accurate."
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Agree with pretty much all of it.

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59. "LWFC"
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it's too late to explain why but I'll be back.

BOBS no slouch either. Some of my fav hiphop songs on there.

The production and interludes on Like Water just changed my life kinda

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62. "Yea me too. "
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>The production and interludes on Like Water just changed my
>life kinda

This album was released like a month after my mom died and the soundscape was just a welcome, perfectly timed escape for me. Such beautiful, soulful production.

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64. "RE: LWFC or BOBS?"
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LOVE both, cant call it…as far as LWFC, it was an eye opening project to me, that showed what Hip Hop could be. The diversity of sound, the maturity, just next level ish that showed a level of depth I had not heard prior to that release….

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65. "not overrated but One Day > LWFC and Blackstar > BOBS"
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like i felt both previous albums had raised the bar and raised my expectations way high

and maybe my age and maturation at the time played into it as well



so each followup album was like... solid, maybe objectively on par with its predecessor, but didnt hit me like the last time


plus as ppl said, there seemed to be banger after banger after banger dropping during that period. mf doom, all the rawkus stuff, outkast, roots, random one off joints like de la, dr octagon, prince among theives, & on & on & on...


strictly head-2-head tho, eh, maybe bobs by a hair. felt like the roots album did the soulquarian thing just a bit better than lwfc



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77. "I feel the oppposite"
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I agree that One Day and Black Star raised the bar high the reason I love the follow-ups so much and place then so high is because they surpassed that expectation for me.

Only other album that did that for me in the same sense off the top was ATLiens.

And those three albums are in my top 10-15 of all-time.

  

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79. "Man I know exactly what you're talking about."
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>I agree that One Day and Black Star raised the bar high the
>reason I love the follow-ups so much and place then so high is
>because they surpassed that expectation for me.

Hell yea. I'll admit I go back and forth about which album I like better, between One Day and LWFC (along with Resurrection, but I'll get to that in a minute) ... but I agree with this. I loved One Day .. so much and had heard that album in real time upon its release. So when LWFC was announced and I knew that Comm had linked w/The Roots/Dilla/D', my expectations were fucking SKY high. The type of expectations that are NEVER matched or exceeded, and always lead to a letdown.

Only that didn't happen. LWFC blew me the fuck away and quickly (at least, for a time) became my favorite Common album.

Kind of the same story for BlackStar and BoBS. BlackStar was a revelation for me as it turned me on to the Rawkus crew and, along with Common and The Roots, was sort of the beginning of my start down the path towards the "underground scene," so to speak. So similar to LWFC, my expectations for BoBS were monumental ... and they were matched/exceeded, just like LWFC.

(As promised, side note re: Resurrection - I didn't hear that album in real time upon its release, so while I loved and love it, and it's top 3 Common albums and possibly my favorite/the best, it doesn't hold that same nostalgia for me).


>Only other album that did that for me in the same sense off
>the top was ATLiens.

For me it was Train of Thought. I guess that's sort of connected to the BlackStar/BoBS thing. But either way ... I *vividly* remember ditching class to buy it the day it was released, then sitting in the hallway back at school vibing, just being wowed by every lyric, every beat turn, every eye-opening piece of wisdom and social commentary, every little interlude (the girl before "The Blast," etc.).

Then transitioning the listening party to my car after school let out, before football practice, and continuing to be absolutely floored. Words can't really describe the feeling, but you and everyone else here obviously know what I'm talking about. In my eyes it's the *perfect* hip-hop album. It's equal parts fun and thought-provoking (while toeing the "preachy" line flawlessly), it's sonically exciting and nuanced ... even though there is diversity in the production from beat to beat, it flows naturally from song to song. Gah I could go on all fucking day. I get giddy like a child just thinking about my first spin(s) of this album.

I never really got those feelings about an album again. Have come very close several times, but nothing *matched* or exceeded that era and those 3 (and a select few other) albums. It's gotta be a combination of my age when they dropped, along with just the excellence of those albums (as well as, like I said above, my having heard them in real time upon release rather than years later), because both artists have dropped phenomenal projects since then. But man oh man was that a fun time.


>And those three albums are in my top 10-15 of all-time.

Yea likewise. Train of Thought is pretty easily top 5 for me. Maybe even top 3. LWFC and BoBs def top 10-15.

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83. "See, Train of Thought was highly anticipated by me though"
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I liked Kweli and I was looking forward to getting a dope album but I didn’t really have the bar set high for that album.

He basically proved me wrong because I wasn’t expected as dope as an album as we got.

So I can’t say it was the same as me going in with high expectations like the other albums mentioned.

  

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84. "Yea good call actually."
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I guess my expectations weren't quite as high for ToT as they were for BoBS and LWFC, so they're a little different. Just different levels. But that speaks more to how highly I was anticipating Comm and Mos' albums, than it does any kind of lack of expectation for ToT.

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66. "lwfc "rigid and contrived"? GTFOOHWTB. "
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that is a bonafide landmark album resulting from the sessions of a magical production team and an emcee on his creative A-game.

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68. "RE: lwfc "rigid and contrived"? GTFOOHWTB. "
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yeah, to my ears, "rigid and contrived" are the opposite of LWFC...
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67. "BOBS"
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and i'm kinda with you on the "contrived" thing with LWFC.. in general: common is great, soulquarians are great..but (and aside from "the questions"/"thelonius"/"the light") something just sounds off & insincere to me about that album (like maybe it wasn't the album common wanted to make, but the album he thought erykah badu wanted him to make?). i've pretty much forgotten about it since like 2003.

  

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70. "Wait - THOSE are the songs you pick out from that album..."
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>and i'm kinda with you on the "contrived" thing with LWFC..
>in general: common is great, soulquarians are great..but (and
>aside from "the questions"/"thelonius"/"the light")

That *don't* sound corny and contrived ? That's weird.


>something
>just sounds off & insincere to me about that album (like maybe
>it wasn't the album common wanted to make, but the album he
>thought erykah badu wanted him to make?). i've pretty much
>forgotten about it since like 2003.

Nah I mean ..... I don't really agree with any of this at all but I *will* say that though I think it's a step below production-wise, if you asked me which album was more "Common," I'd pick One Day...for sure.

But nah - contrived or corny are not the words I would ever come CLOSE To associating with Like Water for Chocolate. I'd save that type of language for Finding Forever.

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71. "RE: Wait - THOSE are the songs you pick out from that album..."
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>>and i'm kinda with you on the "contrived" thing with LWFC..
>>in general: common is great, soulquarians are great..but
>(and
>>aside from "the questions"/"thelonius"/"the light")
>
>That *don't* sound corny and contrived ? That's weird.

maybe, but yeah. i read all the previous comments so i get this album means something different to everyone--i'll try to keep this short (plus we just arguing opinions here): i think Common suffers from the same thing Questlove does..he's already thinking about the critics reviews when creating his music. which is something they can't help, i understand that (shit, *i'd* be the same way if i were to make music probably)...but in my opinion that's that missing thing in their music that keeps them from creating an album that would ever crack my top-5.

so those 3 songs? that "how will they react to this"-trait.. i guess i don't hear that in mos def's or slum village's music (thelonius is basically an SV song). and the light is so anchored by that great sample that it can't go wrong.

>
>
>>something
>>just sounds off & insincere to me about that album (like
>maybe
>>it wasn't the album common wanted to make, but the album he
>>thought erykah badu wanted him to make?). i've pretty much
>>forgotten about it since like 2003.
>
>Nah I mean ..... I don't really agree with any of this at all
>but I *will* say that though I think it's a step below
>production-wise, if you asked me which album was more
>"Common," I'd pick One Day...for sure.
>
>But nah - contrived or corny are not the words I would ever
>come CLOSE To associating with Like Water for Chocolate. I'd
>save that type of language for Finding Forever.

for the record: i'm not one to say "stay in your box, artist!"..i welcome them evolving. so the "that's not common, *that's* common" thing (re: One Day vs LWFC) is never me...but remember that article posted here a while ago quoting common as saying his least favorite album of his is Electric Circus? (ironically, EC>LWFC for me) that's probably what's influencing my opinion here. to me that sounds like that 1999-2002 era was his "lost weekend"--he fucked around listening to stereolab and pink floyd for a bit, realized it wasn't him and then came back "home"(No ID)...anyways, all that to say "hence LWFC not sounding sincere to me".

  

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72. "RE: Wait - THOSE are the songs you pick out from that album..."
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>maybe, but yeah. i read all the previous comments so i get
>this album means something different to everyone--i'll try to
>keep this short (plus we just arguing opinions here): i think
>Common suffers from the same thing Questlove does..he's
>already thinking about the critics reviews when creating his
>music. which is something they can't help, i understand that
>(shit, *i'd* be the same way if i were to make music
>probably)...but in my opinion that's that missing thing in
>their music that keeps them from creating an album that would
>ever crack my top-5.
>
>so those 3 songs? that "how will they react to this"-trait.. i
>guess i don't hear that in mos def's or slum village's music
>(thelonius is basically an SV song). and the light is so
>anchored by that great sample that it can't go wrong.

Word. Like you said it's all opinion. And for the record, I *LOVE* "The Light" and the sample. But I just can't believe you or anyone could say *that* song isn't contrived, of all the songs on the album.

Plus I just can't at all agree that Common was pandering to critics on that album. I have no idea where you would even glean that from. There are definitely a few songs that I would've personally left on the cutting room floor, and that sound a little bit uncomfortable coming from Comm (IMO) but *nothing* about that album says "contrived" or forced to me. In fact it's one of the most naturally soulful hip-hop albums I can think of.

Again, all opinion, but I really think you are in the *VAST* minority with that opinion.


>for the record: i'm not one to say "stay in your box,
>artist!"..i welcome them evolving. so the "that's not common,
>*that's* common" thing (re: One Day vs LWFC) is never me...

It's not me either. Should make clear that I'm saying that as a fan who only knows him from his music and public appearances. I don't want him to stay in a box. All I was saying is that if someone asked me to present them with the album that represents who *I* think Common is or was as an artist best, I'd pick One Day over Like Water.


>but
>remember that article posted here a while ago quoting common
>as saying his least favorite album of his is Electric Circus?
>(ironically, EC>LWFC for me) that's probably what's
>influencing my opinion here. to me that sounds like that
>1999-2002 era was his "lost weekend"--he fucked around
>listening to stereolab and pink floyd for a bit, realized it
>wasn't him and then came back "home"(No ID)...anyways, all
>that to say "hence LWFC not sounding sincere to me".

Hm OK. I get how you arrived there for sure. I just don't agree. I think Be and Finding Forever sound way more forced and contrived than *anything* during the Soulquarian era. And for the record, I LOVE Be.

And actually now that I think of it, Be and Finding Forever are like, the *epitome* of what you were saying above regarding Common pandering to critics. The very reason he denounces Electric Circus so vehemently is because of the critics/fans' negative responses to the left field approach he took. Be was his "safe" response to the critics. So you're kind of talking out of both sides of your mouth here I think. Had he truly been pandering to the critics during the Soulquarian era he would've just made LWFC2 rather than going completely left field with Electric Circus. Your theory simply doesn't make sense. Not trying to be overly critical just making an observation based on what you said above.

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73. "LWFC"
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74. "LWFC sounds better to me now than BOBS does n/m"
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75. "LWFC is in another league to me."
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I don't know a single thing that BOBS did better than LWFC. The only issue I have with LWFC is that it runs a little long, but it reached higher highs and was a more timeless experience than BOBS. I will say that Mathematics may be the best song between the two albums, though.

  

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97. "Mos' emcee performance was superior to Comm's on LWCF"
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he pulled back on his lyricism focus and studied at the Q-Tip Institute for Musical Emcees for a semester, and chose to do different things with his flow and become a part of the music more (with varying results) instead of approaching the songs from a lyric-led standpoint. Mos is at a high level with both aspects and his performance on BOBS shows this.

Also LWFC has more than one piece that really isn't needed, while BOBS has parts that may not be as strong as the others but the album doesn't really suffer for it. Payback Is A Grandmother is a pretty bad Primo impersonation and The Questions is a vastly inferior version of Tribe's What?; the album would be stronger if just those two pieces were taken off.

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98. "If you're talking about Common here I agree 10000000%"
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>he pulled back on his lyricism focus and studied at the Q-Tip
>Institute for Musical Emcees for a semester, and chose to do
>different things with his flow and become a part of the music
>more (with varying results) instead of approaching the songs
>from a lyric-led standpoint.

Very well said. I was blown away by LWFC for a lot of reasons right off the bat, it exceeded my expectations ... but after the initial glow wore off and I was digesting the lyrical content more intently, I remember being *slightly* disappointed in the fact that Comm didn't really pepper his lyrics with the vintage Common wordplay I'd come to love him for. At least on some of the tracks (Funky for You comes to mind, though I *LOVE* that song).


>Also LWFC has more than one piece that really isn't needed,
>while BOBS has parts that may not be as strong as the others
>but the album doesn't really suffer for it. Payback Is A
>Grandmother is a pretty bad Primo impersonation and The
>Questions is a vastly inferior version of Tribe's What?; the
>album would be stronger if just those two pieces were taken
>off.

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99. "Mos *was* the better emcee."
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And I take back my stance on the comparison. I do feel like LWFC is better, but it's personal preference, really. Mos is the emcee I would pick between the two and although the beats on BOBS were killer I feel like the LWFC sound was more focused and polished.

It boils down to the simple fact that I'm a Jay Dee fan at heart and this album really was around the end of that era of his "organic" production style before he became J Dilla and took his approach in a totally different direction. I'm not sure if has anything to do with the emceeing, now that I think about it.

  

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101. "I think Mos and Comm are pretty even, personally."
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Especially around the time just before these albums were released. Comm was coming off One Day It'll All Make Sense which is arguably the strongest front to back lyrical performance of his career (Resurrection had a LOT more wordplay, but IMO on One Day ..., Comm was still coming hard with the wordplay, but was more polished with his flows and content) whereas Mos was coming off his career-sparking performance on BlackStar.

So while Mos may have ultimately come with a stronger performance on BoBS than Comm did on LWFC, I don't think either MC stood head and shoulders above the other at the time these albums were being released.


>And I take back my stance on the comparison. I do feel like
>LWFC is better, but it's personal preference, really. Mos is
>the emcee I would pick between the two and although the beats
>on BOBS were killer I feel like the LWFC sound was more
>focused and polished.
>
>It boils down to the simple fact that I'm a Jay Dee fan at
>heart and this album really was around the end of that era of
>his "organic" production style before he became J Dilla and
>took his approach in a totally different direction. I'm not
>sure if has anything to do with the emceeing, now that I think
>about it.

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104. "NOW THE TRUTH COMES OUT!!!!"
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>It boils down to the simple fact that I'm a Jay Dee fan at
>heart and this album really was around the end of that era of
>his "organic" production style before he became J Dilla and
>took his approach in a totally different direction. I'm not
>sure if has anything to do with the emceeing, now that I think
>about it.

Just kidding, I already knew where you were coming from-most of us that have been posting here for the past decade or so knows how and why that album made people feel.

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106. "Production and feel are big components of how I absorb an album"
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And for this reason I've usually been a big proponent of one-producer albums. This obviously isn't necessary for a great album, just look at Illmatic. But I feel like more often than not a multi-producer album tends to lack continuity and completeness.

As I say that, LWFC is far from a single producer album. But I think the fact that Quest oversaw the album and that they were all a unified group during their time at Electric Lady made it close enough to being that one that I tend to gravitate towards it over BOBS.

  

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108. "Agree with this a TRILLION percent."
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I think Common sees this the same way which is why I tend to enjoy his full albums more than a lot of other artists'. Common, most of the time, has a clear vision for the sound he wants on an album, and allows 1 to 3 producers to kind of shape that vision for him. There's something to be said for that in terms of consistency and theme.

>And for this reason I've usually been a big proponent of
>one-producer albums. This obviously isn't necessary for a
>great album, just look at Illmatic. But I feel like more often
>than not a multi-producer album tends to lack continuity and
>completeness.
>
>As I say that, LWFC is far from a single producer album. But I
>think the fact that Quest oversaw the album and that they were
>all a unified group during their time at Electric Lady made it
>close enough to being that one that I tend to gravitate
>towards it over BOBS.

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76. "bump"
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But I have no idea who I voted for - shit changes


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85. "Neither is overrated."
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I might give LWFC a slight nod for personal nostalgic reasons.

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86. "AWESOME that my LWFC vote tied it at 40..."
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87. "and my LWFC vote but it over the top"
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88. "Speech is my hammer, bang the world into shape now let it fall"
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89. "as an admitted Mos stan, even I am scratching my head a little"
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I think it is LWFC by a mile. It is far more consistent and has aged better imo.

The middle of BOBS was always a little meh to me. That Busta track is awful and overall the album is a little too long.

BOBS could definitely have benefited greatly from the Illmatic treatment, where as LWFC is almost perfect as is.

Then again, I'm in the minority in that I think the Ecstatic is far and way Mos Def's best

  

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90. "I agree re: the Busta joint but ..."
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I think there's some lull on LWFC, too. I loveeeee MC Lyte but I could've done without "A Film Called Pimp". I also think "Payback is a Grandmother" was an unnecessary addition to an already-perfect "Stolen Moments" series.

I actually *like* both tracks just feel like their inclusions kind of ruined the flow of LWFC and could've been left off.

I mean I voted LWFC .. just saying, I don't think either album is necessarily front to back flawless. Think both are classic for multiple reasons but both could've also benefited from some very minimal trimming.

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91. "I like the Busta joint now more than I did originally"
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Just a straight forward high energy banger to me.

I do agree about both benefiting from some trimming though.

I think Mos should’ve put the Respiration Remix and Travelin’ Man on his album.

I know they were already out but those are two of my favorite Mos joints and would’ve added to my love for the album the same way the addition to In Due Time to ATLiens would’ve done.

  

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93. "RE: I like the Busta joint now more than I did originally"
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>Just a straight forward high energy banger to me.
>
>I do agree about both benefiting from some trimming though.
>
>I think Mos should’ve put the Respiration Remix and
>Travelin’ Man on his album.
>
>I know they were already out but those are two of my favorite
>Mos joints and would’ve added to my love for the album the
>same way the addition to In Due Time to ATLiens would’ve
>done.

I'll revisit the track, but I dunno man. Monch also had a wack Busta track that year, right? lol Must have been an underground album requirement in '99.


I do agree on Travelin Man. Would have fit perfectly too.

  

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96. "I'm irrationally anti-remix ..."
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>Just a straight forward high energy banger to me.
>
>I do agree about both benefiting from some trimming though.
>
>I think Mos should’ve put the Respiration Remix and
>Travelin’ Man on his album.

... specifically in terms their presence on proper studio albums, so I wouldn't personally have wanted the Respiration Remix on BoBS or any album, despite it being a really good song. But agree re: Travelin' Man. That's one of Mos' best songs IMO.


>I know they were already out but those are two of my favorite
>Mos joints and would’ve added to my love for the album the
>same way the addition to In Due Time to ATLiens would’ve
>done.

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92. "I don't disagree"
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>I think there's some lull on LWFC, too. I loveeeee MC Lyte
>but I could've done without "A Film Called Pimp". I also think
>"Payback is a Grandmother" was an unnecessary addition to an
>already-perfect "Stolen Moments" series.
>
>I actually *like* both tracks just feel like their inclusions
>kind of ruined the flow of LWFC and could've been left off.
>
>I mean I voted LWFC .. just saying, I don't think either album
>is necessarily front to back flawless. Think both are classic
>for multiple reasons but both could've also benefited from
>some very minimal trimming.

about the two tracks you mentioned...but I definitely hit the "skip" less on LWFC than BOBS.

There are songs on BOBS that aren't necessarily bad, they just don't lend themselves to a ton of reply...like New World Water for instance.

And, again, overall I think LWFC has aged better.

Mos is a touchy subject for me around these parts, because oddly enough, I think people rate BOBS too high and are too hard on his other releases/ rest of his catalog.

Like, I didn't know Blackstar hate existed until recently.


What's funny is I prefer both Mos and Com to Kweli, but I'd put Train of Thought over both these choices...which I'm pretty sure we agree on.

  

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95. "Yea I agree."
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>There are songs on BOBS that aren't necessarily bad, they just
>don't lend themselves to a ton of reply...like New World Water
>for instance.

Def true. Can't argue with that.


>And, again, overall I think LWFC has aged better.

Also agree here. I think the replay value is higher for LWFC.


>Mos is a touchy subject for me around these parts, because
>oddly enough, I think people rate BOBS too high and are too
>hard on his other releases/ rest of his catalog.

Yea I tend to fall into that camp probably. The Ecstatic is really the only post-BoBS release that I ever put on. But with that said maybe I need to revisit New Danger and .... the other album's name escapes me, cause I'm sure with lowered expectations I'll find more to like than I did originally.


>Like, I didn't know Blackstar hate existed until recently.

Whoa this is news to me - did I miss a post ?! I thought BlackStar was bulletproof around here. And it should be.


>What's funny is I prefer both Mos and Com to Kweli, but I'd
>put Train of Thought over both these choices...which I'm
>pretty sure we agree on.

Haha yep - same exact deal here. Train of Thought is one of the most perfect hip-hop albums ever created.

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107. "agree w/ everything you said"
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94. "Broke the tie in favor of LWFC"
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More cohesive and better produced album that I can replay endlessly.

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100. "BOBS all day"
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The beats, the rhymes, the flows, the content, the mood. flowed effortlessly. dope as hell hip hop at its best.

LWFC puts me to sleep at certain moments of the album. Rhymes seemed a bit pretentious....wanted to be deep and say something but missed its mark. It has its moments, but not enough to revisit often. I still play BOBS today.

  

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105. "I voted BOBs just to make it 50/50. No one else should vote"
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to leave this as the proper outcome of this poll.

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109. "Had to go with LWFC"
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Love both albums and it just came down to personal preference.

  

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110. ""L.W.F.C." Gets My Vote"
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I like "Black On Both Sides" as well but I got to be in the mood to listen to that album, but with "Like Water For Chocolate" it puts me in the mood no matter what song it is, I can put it on random and still be fiending for more songs while it's on repeat.

I guess I'm a J-Dilla fan but Mos Def is the superior emcee, Common fits the production so well it's like one goes with the other while I can hear others on some of tracks on "B.O.B.S.", he could've left two songs off that album and it would've been better but I say that with a lot of classic albums.


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"We in here talking about later career Prince records
& your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine
trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak

  

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