being that I was broke and could only afford tapes back then, and b4 cd's were everywhere, I missed out on a bunch of cd only gems. Some I didnt even realize till a full year later. My first cd purchase was Wu Tang Forever in 97

So in a sense, while they were all great songs, my impression of the album was already embedded in my psyche, so I never got to fully appreciate the songs within the album context.. knowhatImean?


perfect example..

North Star (Jewelz) - as much as I've come to appreciate this in later years, this will always remain the album filler for me. for me OB4CL always ended with Wu Gambinos, so havin this linger was too much salt in a perfect meal imo

"Act Like U Want It - I dint catch wind of this til Aug 94 on NY radio. By that time, I was totally consumed with Enta da Stage and Buck was prolly my favorite rapper (before that "slow flow" shit),so I was floating on clouds hearing this. I just assumed it was the 1st single to a new album or sumn

Up North Trip - I heard this on Dont be a Menace sdtk but had no idea it was an Infamous leftover. At the time, MD was heavy in the sdtk game, so I chalked it up to just another Mobb song. I dint get to fully appreciate til I copped the cd years later, and surprisingly fits well within the album.

I don't think "Marvel" was on the cassette.

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Glad I got it when it first dropped. Ghost has to be one of the few artists that always has sample clearance issues with his albums.

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Same here. My little cousin bought it recently and it only had 16 tracks. I grabbed my copy, did the knowledge and yep, Soul Controller is no longer on there.

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....didnt know about the "other" songs till waaaay later

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I dubbed "De La is Dead" tape, so I missed out on "My Brother's a Basehead" and those other three skits. I did save money and keep the CD later that year tho...

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Fortunately, my cousin had the album on cd and made me a copy of the cd version on cassette, I traded my official cassette in for another tape.

Later on I copped the cd for myself, it's still a classic album "Who Do You Worship" & "My Brother A Basehead" are gems.

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thats one of my favorite de la skit/songs too.. and i hate the fact that i could have been enjoying it at the time the album actually came out...... and when Mase said "That jam 'Who Do U Worship'? What they on some old devilish shit or somethin??" i never knew what he was talking about

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.. and when Mase said "That jam 'Who Do U
>Worship'? What they on some old devilish shit or somethin??"
>i never knew what he was talking about

I vaguely remember my boy (who also had De La is Dead on CD) having 3rd Bass with a skit of Serch singing a mock piano-blues song in a Satchmo voice about having soul.

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>I vaguely remember my boy (who also had De La is Dead on CD)
>having 3rd Bass with a skit of Serch singing a mock
>piano-blues song in a Satchmo voice about having soul.

LOL, it's more like a Tom Waitts voice; the beat sampled Waitt's "Way Down in the Hole," (word to The Wire and David Simon) and he imitated Waitts steez on it.

That one was on the tape though. At least the one I dubbed.

You might be thinking of "Check Your Self"; that's a vinyl only track from Derelicts of Dialect. They sing on that one too.

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>>I vaguely remember my boy (who also had De La is Dead on
>CD)
>>having 3rd Bass with a skit of Serch singing a mock
>>piano-blues song in a Satchmo voice about having soul.
>
>LOL, it's more like a Tom Waitts voice; the beat sampled
>Waitt's "Way Down in the Hole," (word to The Wire and David
>Simon) and he imitated Waitts steez on it.
>
>That one was on the tape though. At least the one I dubbed.
>
That was a tape I actually owned not in dubbed or 8th & Market pirated form.

The song, which I can't recall hearing in years, was the one you're referring to now that I read it.

Definitely wasn't on the tape version at least on the original pressing (with the green pressing cover that cover both sides).

>You might be thinking of "Check Your Self"; that's a vinyl
>only track from Derelicts of Dialect. They sing on that one
>too.

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>You might be thinking of "Check Your Self"; that's a vinyl only track from Derelicts of Dialect. They sing on that one too.

Had the tape and the CD, had the vinyl singles, never the album vinyl.

Just heard it for the first time right now on Youtube.
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next to the end of "Bitties" and the "Fat Lady Sings" track on that record.

Wu-Tang used to be kings of this type of shit.

Ol Dirty: "Dirty Dancing" and "Harlem World."

GZA: "B.I.B.L.E."

However, an advantage I has as a tape owner of "Liquid Swords": I got the actual track listing on the back cover and the tape itself. The CD track listing was ALL types of fucked up.

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Cause back then I was copping the albums on vinyl and transferring them to cassette, and when I started hearing others talk about the bonus tracks I was pissed; also later on I found out that the "Return Of The 36 Chambers: Dirty Version" there is a clean version on vinyl with the bonus tracks on them (weird right?).

I still don't own "Liquid Swords" on cd, I need to cop it.

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I be reciting the lyrics, and its all off key with the beat and whatnot. I know Wu producers are notorious for bad mixing

He'd throw the bonus cuts on cassette. Had me so pissed about "Silent Murder"

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Had the tape.too...when I upgraded to CD, wondered what the deal was...that's taking it back...

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>He'd throw the bonus cuts on cassette. Had me so pissed about
>"Silent Murder"
yall got a ni66a over here like 'damn how u member that'

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Wu-Tang Forever had a track titled that as well too.

>Wu-Tang used to be kings of this type of shit.
>
>Ol Dirty: "Dirty Dancing" and "Harlem World."
>
>GZA: "B.I.B.L.E."
>
>However, an advantage I has as a tape owner of "Liquid
>Swords": I got the actual track listing on the back cover and
>the tape itself. The CD track listing was ALL types of fucked
>up.
fffvvkkk yea

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where some cds were equipped with multimedia. I copped WuTang Forever cd strictly for this, but could only get it to work just once. It was a virtual tour of the Wu Mansion I beleive.

Another "alleged" interative cd was Hell on Earth. tho I NEVER got to see the visuals to this day. And the bonus song, "In the Long Run" I didn't hear til years later when Youtube started popping. I still feel somewhat cheated

We were amped when we found the bonus cut.

Keith Murray diss joint!

To see if the EnhancedCD shit still worked. That "She's A Bitch" video is barely bigger than our avatars on here, lol.

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>
>where some cds were equipped with multimedia. I copped WuTang
>Forever cd strictly for this, but could only get it to work
>just once. It was a virtual tour of the Wu Mansion I beleive.
>
>Another "alleged" interative cd was Hell on Earth. tho I NEVER
>got to see the visuals to this day. And the bonus song, "In
>the Long Run" I didn't hear til years later when Youtube
>started popping. I still feel somewhat cheated
bofl my bro had the same prob w/ hell on earth, we always thought his shyt was faulty....good times

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including Xzibit first, which contains the making of the Paparazzi vid
and KRS "I got Next"

and I just found the Wu Mansion snippet.. shit looks rather juvenile now lol
https://youtu.be/-jjoeO-DK8w

It's funny to think about it now, but this was back when the World Wide Web was basically unusable as far as videos and animation is concerned. I remember the Alkaholiks had a website with a bunch of Flash but I couldn't get it to load.

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I know were talking about bonus cd tracks not available on cassette but this one I gotta speak about Wu-Tang's "Forever" cause I bought it just cause of the bonus tracks not available on US pressings (a local record store had tons of imports as regular stock) but on this one it had two bonus tracks "Sunshower" & "Projects (International Remix)" and well worth it, and the funny thing is that this became a regular thing for the UK & Japan have bonus tracks on cds not available in the US.

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Adding two tracks to a release is dope but how about damn near adding a full album? I remember buying Living Colour's Biscuits in 91. The US version was a 6-track EP. The Japan version was 15 tracks long! It had lyrics and a bunch of photography. The US version was pretty much a standard insert with a tracklist and credits.

Basically, it's a ploy to have a country's distributor create an alternate version for their marketplace to compete with a cheaper US import. In Japan, their consumers buy and invest in "their own." They'd buy their higher-priced versions anyway but adding content like obi strips, bonus tracks, alternate covers, lyric books in kanji and even different casing is an incentive to pay the extra money.

It also offers more for the US artist to place their product in a country where the music is already overpopulated with their own domestic stars.

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.....i used to hate how the UK releases would get these dope 12"s with artwork, meanwhile, the US versions were just a jacket w/sticker ...i dont even think Triumph came out as a single in the US, only promo

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'silent murder' was only on the cassette.

that was around the time when i first switched from cassette to cd, specifically because of cd-only bonus tracks. i can still remember the first couple cds i owned -- labcabincalifornia, the 2nd onyx album, liquid swords, brown sugar, don't be a menace OST, high school high OST, america is dying slowly.

then one day we walk into the off-campus clothing store where we used to cop the new clue / kid capri / doo wop / S&S tapes, and 'silent murder' is blaring out the speakers.

"wtf is this?!!"

i remember how salty i was that it wasn't on the cd.

btw, you're bugging re: north star (jewels)

that shit is essential imo, the perfect coda to that album and far from filler.

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Before Nas' second album dropped I got a hold of a cd sampler with snippets of the album and one of the songs was "Silent Murder" and when the album dropped it wasn't on it and I was kind of upset cause it was dope ass song, then a few years later I was telling someone about it and they said it's on the album, and I said no it's not, and they said well it's on the cassette, and I was like whaaaaaaaaaattttt, mane Sony fooled me on that one, the only other time they had a bonus cassette joint I remembered was the Pete Rock & C.L.Smooth first album had the two remixes.

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Digital Underground, Sex Packets: Hip-Hop Doll, Tribute to the Old School, Sound of the Underground, extended version of Gutfest '89. Thank God for the "Cocaine Blunts and Hip-Hop Tapes" mp3 blog (remember when those were a thing?) for posting up the mp3 back in the mid '00s.

LL Cool J, Walking With a Panther: Crime Stories.

Lord Finesse, Return of the Funky Man: Hands in the Air, Mouth Shut. Great closing track not on the CD. Replaced by "Fuck 'Em." Which was CD only.

Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Mecca and the Soul Brother: Creator remix, title track edit.


I remember I bought my first CDs in 1991: Redhead Kingpin's and Craig G's second albums. My younger brother had bought a CD before that, but I decided I was stick with tapes, mostly because CD Discmen and CD players for the car sucked at the time. I pretty much held on to buying until the summer of '98, with the convergence of three events: 1) Getting a new car, and putting a 10 CD changer in the back, 2) Getting a job at Border's, which I could buy CDs on discount, 3) Going away to grad school in the Chicago area, and realizing none of the record stores in Evanston sold tapes.

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>Pete Rock and CL Smooth, Mecca and the Soul Brother: Creator
>remix, title track edit.

The hard drive I have at work has the cd-ripped version and I always feel shorted because I rolled with the cassette version for the 90's through early 2000's.

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the cassette had 3 extra songs that were among the best including Pac's Pain and Loyal to the Game

They released a bonus CD I believe with those songs you had to buy separate

The cassette of I Am had two bonus songs...Pray feat. Breaveheats & Natures Shine by Nature.

I'm pretty sure they were just snippets, but it tripped me out he pulled the cassette only bonus again.

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>The cassette of I Am had two bonus songs...Pray feat.
>Breaveheats & Natures Shine by Nature.
>
>I'm pretty sure they were just snippets, but it tripped me out
>he pulled the cassette only bonus again.

That Pray joint was nice too

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Also the Japan version had an additional bonus track "The Night He Got Caught" which I tried to find but didn't want to pay the money, then Jive released the "B-Sides & Rarities" with it on it.

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Lord Finesse, Return of the Funky Man: "Fuck 'Em." They put this on and left off "Hands in the Air, Mouth Shut." Never knew why.

Craig G, Now That's More Like It: Swiftness, Live Off the Top, and Go For the Throat. Cassette ends with "U R Not The 1." Since this was one of the first two CDs I ever owned, I had these three tracks.

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>Lord Finesse, Return of the Funky Man: "Fuck 'Em." They put
>this on and left off "Hands in the Air, Mouth Shut." Never
>knew why.
>
>Craig G, Now That's More Like It: Swiftness, Live Off the Top,
>and Go For the Throat. Cassette ends with "U R Not The 1."
>Since this was one of the first two CDs I ever owned, I had
>these three tracks.

Hands In The Air was way better than Fuck Em. That always bothered me with that CD.

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Not uncredited separate tracks, but like where the final track is listed at 8 minutes, and it's a three minute song, two minutes of silence, and another 3 minute song. I hoped that it would be the first thing to go in the age of mp3s.

As someone who still buys CDs, I very much appreciate the CD only tracks.

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>Not uncredited separate tracks, but like where the final
>track is listed at 8 minutes, and it's a three minute song,
>two minutes of silence, and another 3 minute song. I hoped
>that it would be the first thing to go in the age of mp3s.

Especially on the first listen and I know it's the last track. When that last song is winding down I watch the cd display to see if it keeps ticking!

To your point, if they're going to do that it is more user friendly if it's just an unlisted track. Or if they're going with the song-then-silence-then song method only make it like 30 seconds. Don't make me skip 5 minutes.


>As someone who still buys CDs, I very much appreciate the CD
>only tracks.

For real.

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Not on the cassette, only on the CD.

I forget about that song because I had the tape. I hadn't thought about it in over a decade until you just mentioned it.

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I mean the track listing is different in the middle of the album on the tape compared to the CD. They changed things around to make sure there was a proper flow. Those with the tape would be used to hearing Silent Murder right after The Set Up. It fades in. From what I remember The Set Up comes on earlier on the tape than on the CD.

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I had the cassette (it was the first hip hop album I actually bought, along with The Score at the same time...prior to that I would use blank tapes to record the radio and whatnot)

Years later when I got my hands on a CD, the tracklisting was different and Silent Murder was either missing or I thought it was missing.

Listening to my downloaded version of "it was written" nowadays still confuses me

Lol

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Salad purple or salad murder

Even tho the track was called silent murder

Plus the steel drum type sounds made me think of produce

Probably some residual sesame street influence in my early teen subconscious. Lol ridiculous I know

>salad murder
>
Lol my girlfriend did say this. It does sound like Salad Murder instead on Silent Murder

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Ha, guess I'm not alone

>Plus the steel drum type sounds made me think of produce



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>I mean the track listing is different in the middle of the
>album on the tape compared to the CD. They changed things
>around to make sure there was a proper flow. Those with the
>tape would be used to hearing Silent Murder right after The
>Set Up. It fades in. From what I remember The Set Up comes on
>earlier on the tape than on the CD.

The sequencing on the tape is def better than the CD. The import CD just tacked Silent Murder at the end of the album.

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Pac's "Pain" was on the tape, but not on the CD. Odd, because it was the opening song of the damn movie.

Streets won't let me chill.

>Pac's "Pain" was on the tape, but not on the CD. Odd,
>because it was the opening song of the damn movie.

This was another one that had me pissed. PE should have made a song called "Cassette wins Again"

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>Pac's "Pain" was on the tape, but not on the CD. Odd,
>because it was the opening song of the damn movie.
pissed me off sooo much years later when I went to cop the CD and it wasn't on there...best fvkk'n song

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I never understood why it wasn't on the damn CD. I love that song.

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Superlady.

I was alive when this dropped but just a wee one. I didn't listen to the album in its entirety until the 2000s so I never missed out on this goodness.

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This is my favorite song from the album. Again, I didn't listen to this album in its entirety until 2000s so I didn't miss out.

I would have mad as fuck if I bought the cassette tape back in 1993.

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I am not ashamed to find a .zip or .rar file for those iTunes-exclusive joints. I don't mess with iTunes, only Google Play, Bandcamp and occasionally, Amazon Music.

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good pick

First CD I ever bought...before I even had a CD player. That and Amerikkka's Most Wanted.

Damn shame this wasn't on all versions.
Apparantly it was only on the original pressings of the album due to clearance issues..

Might as well include Bitches Ain't Shit from The mafukin Chronic. (i could be mistaken on this one tho)

**Man... "North Star" is a beautiful piece of music. Love that shit

on my version of the Chronic the track listing is incorrect toward the end of the CD. It has The Next Episode as a song, but its not on the album. There was an OG version of the next episode that used the same sample as Warren G Runnin Wit No Breaks, but it was cut last minute from the album.

Im pretty sure Bitches aint Shit was on all versions.

My CD had it but it was not listed correctly on the back. Made it seem like it ended after The Roach

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