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fluicide
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"Which rappers have the best ear for beats iyo?"


  

          

Or the worst?

I'll throw Kool Keith out there for having one of best ears for beats ..

  

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One of the best: E 40
Apr 19th 2015
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Curren$y
Apr 19th 2015
Ghostface..........
Apr 19th 2015
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Here's some recent Keith bangers
Apr 19th 2015
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Curren$y, Drake, Future, Rick Ross, Cormega, Ghostface
Apr 19th 2015
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RE: Which rappers have the best ear for beats iyo?
Apr 19th 2015
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right now: Vince Staples
Apr 19th 2015
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Best=Busta
Apr 19th 2015
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the game, though he is cornball as a rapper IMO
Apr 19th 2015
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^^^^
Apr 20th 2015
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You're on point about The Game.
Apr 21st 2015
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Group Home
Apr 20th 2015
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No they don't...they rapped on whatever Primo told them to
Apr 20th 2015
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RE: No they don't...they rapped on whatever Primo told them to
Apr 20th 2015
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On the contrary..........
Apr 21st 2015
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I think the only person that could "nah bruh" Primo was Guru
Apr 20th 2015
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      Obviously Nas and Jay have gone to the next beat
Apr 20th 2015
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      lol
Apr 20th 2015
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      RE: I think the only person that could "nah bruh" Primo was Guru
Apr 21st 2015
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           They were crew crew tho
Apr 21st 2015
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Nore, Fat Joe, Freeway,
Apr 20th 2015
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M.E.D., Curren$y, Ghost, K. Lamar
Apr 20th 2015
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Game's always got credit for this
Apr 20th 2015
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His ear turned to tin on that last album though
Apr 20th 2015
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a few years ago i would've said game & rawse
Apr 20th 2015
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best =Ross / worst = Nas
Apr 20th 2015
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Yet Nas has more great songs than any MC ever...
Apr 20th 2015
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ok
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Not with the beats he's picked over the years.
Apr 21st 2015
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Read what I said again...
Apr 21st 2015
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      This post isn't about MC's with more great individual songs...
Apr 21st 2015
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           If he has that many great songs he can't be that bad at picking beats
Apr 21st 2015
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                Yes he can when the trash beats heavily outweigh the good ones.
Apr 21st 2015
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                     *shrug*
Apr 21st 2015
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He makes a lot of songs
Apr 21st 2015
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I put Nas at half & half
Apr 21st 2015
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Best: Snoop, Rick Ross, Ghost
Apr 20th 2015
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One of the worst has to be the Gza.
Apr 20th 2015
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I hate beats like this
Apr 20th 2015
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      lol for real
Apr 20th 2015
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      Lol, right? The same type of generic beats....
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           Assembly line basic cookie cutter beats
Apr 21st 2015
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                I know exactly what you're talking about.
Apr 21st 2015
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is this basically a...
Apr 20th 2015
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Not really...more like - what does it mean when a good mc
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Eminem = wurst ear for beats.
Apr 20th 2015
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I swear I can't understand how this dude...
Apr 21st 2015
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      Most lyrical rappers like Ras, Chino, Em, pick stage beats vs show beats
Apr 21st 2015
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           Ah good point
Apr 21st 2015
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i was impressed by freeway
Apr 20th 2015
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Good call...Freeway picks bangers
Apr 21st 2015
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Tony Starks...hands down
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ghostface ghostface ghostface
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Keith is GOAT over other people's production..
Apr 21st 2015
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Him & Kurt are great together
Apr 21st 2015
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RE: Which rappers have the best ear for beats iyo?
Apr 21st 2015
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fluicide
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1. "One of the best: E 40"
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"Curren$y"


          

  

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2. "Ghostface.........."
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and Ricardo Ross........lol..........Action Bronson comes to mind as well..........but Kool Keith, tho?......I dont know, bruh

  

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4. "Here's some recent Keith bangers"
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but Kool Keith, tho?......I dont know,
>bruh

Durant And Westbrook https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRLPR0zDmBk

The Flow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmCnR67EM7I&index=13&list=PLbSzkmn6nQcKVi7OWaFDVlBYZwJofE99U

I Want My Dick Sucked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-1wIlS_ZGk&oref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DO-1wIlS_ZGk&has_verified=1

Old Keith bangers

Wanna Be A Star https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ibkzx5k6k38&list=PLFovY8fju3T-ELU0j1G_LHatzoBHY44AQ

Clifton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNkfi0uR9VU

Fat Lady https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cULrTrt0cq0

Sly We Fly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOVYFueJRuA

Talk To The Romans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpTQQHWkXsM&list=PL17DvmzWcKx7cwvfUJI9AXokxIcXjWDRw&index=3

Backstage Passes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asCVx_ojAp8

Half Shark Alligator Half Man https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6lgzqsVslA

Neighbor's Next Door https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taH3hwx4J00

Keith's always had ill beats

  

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3. "Curren$y, Drake, Future, Rick Ross, Cormega, Ghostface"
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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

  

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5. "RE: Which rappers have the best ear for beats iyo?"
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a lot of good ones said (Drake, Curren$y, Ross, Bronson, etc.)

A few others:
Dom Kennedy
Blu
Game
Mac Miller

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6. "right now: Vince Staples"
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some others: Scarface, Bun B, Ludacris, WC, Freeway, Buckshot

  

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7. "Best=Busta"
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Picks not only dope beats, but unusual ones that don't/won't sound good if another person picked it.

phemom's the name, all-star writer/
searching 4 journalistic fame, mindframe igniter....www.twitter.com/hayabusaage

  

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8. "the game, though he is cornball as a rapper IMO"
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but his beat game is tight.

TI got beats as well.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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27. "^^^^"
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dj khalil, SAP, pretty much all the guys that work with dre are damn good on their own

  

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33. "You're on point about The Game."
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He may be annoying with all of his name dropping but dude's ear is undeniable.



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9. "Group Home"
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___________________________________________________________
Giants, Knicks, Yankees, Rangers

  

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10. "No they don't...they rapped on whatever Primo told them to"
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Have you rocked a Group Home album after Livin' Proof?

  

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22. "RE: No they don't...they rapped on whatever Primo told them to"
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It was a joke.

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Giants, Knicks, Yankees, Rangers

  

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46. "On the contrary.......... "
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Although not on the level of their Premo production.....

the majority of Group Homes' beat selection
HAS been pretty dope and hardcore since their 1st LP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06S6SEl2GJw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEFyX3BMk_w

Them dudes got good ears....

Especially Lil Dap on his solos


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7eOvntJKBU

  

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12. "I think the only person that could "nah bruh" Primo was Guru"
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I bet he rarely gets told "go to the next one" lol

  

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13. "Obviously Nas and Jay have gone to the next beat "
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Lol

  

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14. "lol"
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Yeah probably...Jay Z probably gave him a reality check - " you ain't infallible, nigga"

  

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47. "RE: I think the only person that could "nah bruh" Primo was Guru"
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Jeru said in the interview back in the day that he turned down quite a few beats during the making of ‎"The Sun Rises in the East"

  

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49. "They were crew crew tho"
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I doubt he gets challenged as much as maybe he should...but I'm speculating with no idea of the truth so I'll sit down now

  

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11. "Nore, Fat Joe, Freeway, "
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@rob_starrk

  

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15. "M.E.D., Curren$y, Ghost, K. Lamar"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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16. "Game's always got credit for this"
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26. "His ear turned to tin on that last album though"
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If nothing else, in the past I've respected Game's ear for beats, but that "Blood of the Wolf" album was straight basura on the lyrics and beats front.

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Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

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17. "a few years ago i would've said game & rawse"
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now i'd say currensy, nipsey hussle , kendrick, slim thug & freddie gibbs

  

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18. "best =Ross / worst = Nas"
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Fuck your fort!

  

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20. "Yet Nas has more great songs than any MC ever..."
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21. "ok"
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Fuck your fort!

  

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34. "Not with the beats he's picked over the years."
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Dope lyrics don't make a great album when the beats are severely lacking.



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39. "Read what I said again..."
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You can't name another MC with more great individual songs over the course of their career than Nas. He has picked some bad beats that didn't work for him but that doesn't discount ALL of the great music he has put out over the past 20+ years.

This "Nas can't pick beats" agenda is an ignorant one.

  

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41. "This post isn't about MC's with more great individual songs..."
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over the course of their career so your point is mute.

Fuck your fort!

  

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45. "If he has that many great songs he can't be that bad at picking beats"
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So your point is fucking dumb.

  

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54. "Yes he can when the trash beats heavily outweigh the good ones."
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Sorry but Nas' ear is real sometimey. When it's on point, it's really on point. Unfortunately, most of the time it ain't on point and we get hit with horrible and or boring beats.




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55. "*shrug*"
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He's picked enough good ones to have more great records than any other MC so therefore he can't be the worst.

Not sure what's hard to understand.

  

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48. "He makes a lot of songs"
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So he'll have a high volume of both hits and misses. The lows are pretty low, though, and not short in volume, either. Nas is down there with the worst of rappers' ears for beats, though, which has no bearing on his obviously all-time-great level lyrical ability.

But I think the most salient point to make for this argument is Ether's beat. I mean, he knew how big and important that song would be, and he could not have picked a worse beat. I still find myself shaking my head at that choice to this day.

Love me some Nas, though, don't get me wrong. But man he's picked some stinkers in his day.

  

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52. "I put Nas at half & half"
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One ear's good the other one's bad

  

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19. "Best: Snoop, Rick Ross, Ghost"
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Worst: Nas

http://soundcloud.com/deemack1

  

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23. "One of the worst has to be the Gza."
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Outside of Liquid Swords and that Grandmasters project with DJ Muggs, the beats for his albums have been a snooze fest.

I hope his future projects prove me wrong.

Interesting that as soon as I was done reading this another Wu member of Ghost flashed immediately in my head. Strange to see that gulf between two crew members.

  

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24. "I hate beats like this"
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Stringplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM1yhOHqK2o

I can't imagine people getting amped up to go in the booth to a beat like that

  

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25. "lol for real"
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>Stringplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FM1yhOHqK2o
>
>I can't imagine people getting amped up to go in the booth to
>a beat like that



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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

  

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35. "Lol, right? The same type of generic beats...."
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...that Canibus has a knack for picking as well. I don't understand it. You'd think those two had never heard of any of the ill beats from the early to mid '90s that had flavor to them when you hear them rhyming over plain sounding joints like that.



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38. "Assembly line basic cookie cutter beats"
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That's why I hated Wyclef's production on Can-I-Bus

Trackmasters were the kings of this...and post Biggie Bad Boy has a bunch of em

It's hard to put into words but you know exactly what I mean...beats like Eminem's productions (Say Goodbye To Hollywood comes to mind)

  

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53. "I know exactly what you're talking about."
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Those boring flavorless beats that have no distinctive qualities to make them stand out. They are just there. Even wack beats have something about them that makes them stand out; even if what makes them stand out is terrible. Those generic beats drain me for some reason. I'd rather listen to pop radio because at least the wackness on there is a lot more tolerable.

If beats were food, the dope stuff would be the scrumptious, well seasoned meals; the wack stuff would be the stuff that's too salty, over seasoned, or overcooked; and the generic stuff would be the foods that have the potential to be good if they had the right seasonings added but since they don't, they're just bland. They're like a plain bowl of rice or grits.

You hear a lot of bedroom producers on YouTube with that generic style.


Since 1976

  

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28. "is this basically a..."
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'This rapper had a better career than his skills suggested' post?

  

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37. "Not really...more like - what does it mean when a good mc"
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like GZA repeatedly picks unfunky, dry beats and a wack mc like (insert wack rapper name)always has heatrock beats? Is it because GZA has bad taste? Or is it us? Are we the problem? Or something like that...

WHY THO?

Is a song good if it has a wack mc, but the beat is slammin?
Is a song bad if it has a dope mc but the beat sucks?

Nah seriously, it's about whose beats are consistent iyo and whose aren't.

  

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29. "Eminem = wurst ear for beats."
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yupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyupyup

  

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36. "I swear I can't understand how this dude..."
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...can't pick a dope beat to save his life. Even his Dre beats are throwaways compared to the heavy levels of dopeness Dre has put out over the years.



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43. "Most lyrical rappers like Ras, Chino, Em, pick stage beats vs show beats"
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They always pick beats to where their lyrics and style can really get off, just setting a stage, vs beats that seem to take ANY shine away from what they do. And it's not always that intentional...just that they don't seem to know how to make a great song lyrically with a great beat in the way that Jay and Biggie did.

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50. "Ah good point"
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What may rock in the headphones might not translate the same in a huge room/live show setting..and a song/beat that may be underwhelming on an album might rock in a loud/live setting

  

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30. "i was impressed by freeway"
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40. "Good call...Freeway picks bangers"
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31. "Tony Starks...hands down"
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especially the early shit

  

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32. "ghostface ghostface ghostface"
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Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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42. "Keith is GOAT over other people's production.."
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But pretty damn unlistenable since he been producing the majority of his own album in the last 7-9 years.

Kut Masta Kurt gave dude some gems

Not sure what laid to their apparent fall out

  

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51. "Him & Kurt are great together"
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Does anyone know why he stopped fkn with Automator?

  

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44. "RE: Which rappers have the best ear for beats iyo?"
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Ghostface

Planet Asia

Styles P

Fat Joe

Curren$y

Rick Ross

REKS

Edo G.

Juicy J

John Robinson (Lil Sci)

A-Mafia

Skyzoo

Willie Da Kid

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


These guys RARELY spitting over hot doo-doo grits production

  

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