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"Diamond D on Combat Jack"


          

Great ep with the Legend.

The genuine anger at the non-Lauryn Fugees though? A+.

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Diamond D is just a top 5 hip hop PERSON for me personally.
Apr 15th 2015
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yup me too
Apr 16th 2015
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true dat
Apr 16th 2015
22
Diamond was dope. But Combat and Pete kinda annoyed me on this one.
Apr 15th 2015
2
Pete pretty much adds nothing at this point. Combat gave me that pod
Apr 15th 2015
3
Yep.. how'd he forget about the Boom Bap album
Apr 15th 2015
4
Ch'eah
Apr 15th 2015
6
I was close to screaming at my computer screen at work.
Apr 16th 2015
8
Pete shines the most when they have light hearted guests
Apr 16th 2015
10
RE: Diamond was dope. But Combat and Pete kinda annoyed me on this one.
Apr 18th 2015
43
I lost it when he basically told Pras he let him slide off an asswhoopin...
Apr 15th 2015
5
What's with the Fugees?
Apr 15th 2015
7
I don't think Columbia properly cleared the Cymande sample...
Apr 16th 2015
9
he had a problem getting paid too, right?
Apr 16th 2015
11
      i think Diamond D won a grammy for that album as well right???
Apr 16th 2015
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           everybody credited gets a grammy...
Apr 16th 2015
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I just hit that part of the podcast.
Apr 16th 2015
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      certainly felt like he teed it up for him.
Apr 18th 2015
42
           Given his background
Apr 20th 2015
52
Listening to this at my desk isn't good...
Apr 16th 2015
14
This was cool
Apr 16th 2015
15
I'm bugging at my desk at the KRS shit
Apr 16th 2015
24
What he said!!! ^^^
Apr 20th 2015
53
the OutKast stuff too
Apr 21st 2015
55
This dude said "you never got to work on a Gangstarr record right?"
Apr 16th 2015
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Right, like he's the only one that missed out.
Apr 16th 2015
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LOL
Apr 16th 2015
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After their first album, I think only one outside producer even did a re...
Apr 16th 2015
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dont foeget Pete Rock did the Militia Remix
Apr 17th 2015
41
that really was, the ol smile/short-answer-to-a-stupid-question response
Apr 16th 2015
37
So Diamond flipped that Das Efx sample first?
Apr 16th 2015
19
Mmmm mm mm, ain't that something?
Apr 16th 2015
23
      damn it feel good to see people up on it
Apr 16th 2015
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RE: Diamond D on Combat Jack
Apr 16th 2015
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That Pac story was great. That's why I love that dude.
Apr 16th 2015
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when he dropped that "The Light" tho
Apr 16th 2015
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RE: when he dropped that "The Light" tho
Apr 16th 2015
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I'm, like, the biggest Diamond D fan there is...
Apr 20th 2015
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LOL @ the Mos Def comment
Apr 16th 2015
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The Ecstatic had some solid cuts.
Apr 20th 2015
51
Wow, I didnt know Diamond D produced so many classics
Apr 16th 2015
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Hows that The Diam Piece album?
Apr 16th 2015
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Good. Really good even
Apr 16th 2015
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Agreed. I'm happy Fat Joe showed up for his verse
Apr 16th 2015
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dope as hell
Apr 19th 2015
45
VERY good.. only gripe is I wanted more solo tracks...
Apr 20th 2015
50
Combat had multiple brain farts on this one but overall dope episode
Apr 16th 2015
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I'll wash you the fuck up, fam=make by beats, faggot
Apr 16th 2015
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RE: Diamond D on Combat Jack
Apr 16th 2015
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Seems a lot of us didn't know how Deep Diamond D's track record is
Apr 17th 2015
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RE: Diamond D on Combat Jack
Apr 18th 2015
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That KRS joint is insane!!
Apr 19th 2015
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PLEASE tell me you've heard that before
Apr 19th 2015
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      RE: PLEASE tell me you've heard that before
Apr 20th 2015
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           oh if you missed the album then it makes sense
Apr 20th 2015
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                that's the KRS album I still go back to most, that & the live BDP album
Apr 21st 2015
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RE: Diamond D on Combat Jack
Apr 21st 2015
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1. "Diamond D is just a top 5 hip hop PERSON for me personally."
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Stunts Blunts & Hip Hop a top 5 all time hip hop album IMO.

  

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13. "yup me too"
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22. "true dat"
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2. "Diamond was dope. But Combat and Pete kinda annoyed me on this one."
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The Fugees shit was hilarious and to the point. The contempt in his voice was palpable. The 'Pac story was also great.

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3. "Pete pretty much adds nothing at this point. Combat gave me that pod"
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feeling when you hear somebody saying the wrong shit (everything about the KRS joint in here) and you're telling them 'no' like they can hear you while listening.

The Fugee shit was hilarious and yes the Pac story was great.

The song selection was solid I guess for an abridged show, I would have liked to hear one of Tha Alkaholik cuts in there but that's personal preference.

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4. "Yep.. how'd he forget about the Boom Bap album"
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6. "Ch'eah"
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8. "I was close to screaming at my computer screen at work."
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>feeling when you hear somebody saying the wrong shit
>(everything about the KRS joint in here) and you're telling
>them 'no' like they can hear you while listening.

I was doing the exact same thing. "It was on the 'KRS-One' album! Return of the Boom-Bap was the first KRS album without BDP! I Got Next didn't drop for another two years!"

This is behavior I usually reserve for a Juan Epstien podcast ep.


>The song selection was solid I guess for an abridged show, I
>would have liked to hear one of Tha Alkaholik cuts in there
>but that's personal preference.

"Next Level" is a great, great track. Great

But the music selection stuff was mostly their "Usual Suspects" shit. What was it like working with Big L? Why didn't you work with Biggie? Or Jay-Z?

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10. "Pete shines the most when they have light hearted guests"
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and there's things you can play for laughs. It's good that he's there though in general, because Combat doesn't know when to let people talk so any break in him cutting people off is a great thing. Pete's chime-ins actually do a great service in that regard.

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43. "RE: Diamond was dope. But Combat and Pete kinda annoyed me on this one."
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Fugees are only significant when immigrants or self loathing cacs in their 30's try to talk rap.



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5. "I lost it when he basically told Pras he let him slide off an asswhoopin..."
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and the "fuck you, you're cool, and fuck you" bit was the icing on the cake.
Reggie is right though...Diamond D is probably responsible for 79% of all the 4 Horsemen style asskickings in New York between 1993 and 1998.

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7. "What's with the Fugees?"
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I don't think I've ever heard/read anything about this beef.

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9. "I don't think Columbia properly cleared the Cymande sample..."
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...that Diamond used on "The Score." So when they came calling, Columbia and The Fugees tried to put it on Diamond and make him pay the money. And his point is if the label and the Fugees were the ones who made most of the money, they should cover the sample clearance costs.

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11. "he had a problem getting paid too, right?"
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I think I remember him saying he got paid, but Wyclef was the main one trying to not pay him as well.

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12. "i think Diamond D won a grammy for that album as well right???"
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...havent listened to the podcast yet, so he may have mentioned it

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18. "everybody credited gets a grammy..."
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for any album that won.


  

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16. "I just hit that part of the podcast."
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That anger from Diamond D made me sit up straight in my work chair just now. Palpable. I wonder if Combat knew the back story behind that track and if Diamond D was going to react that way before hand.

  

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42. "certainly felt like he teed it up for him."
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52. "Given his background"
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as a lawyer in the rap industry working contracts and such, I'm sure he was aware. I'm surprised Diamond D didn't get more upset because I'm sure he knows of Combat Jack's lawyer background as well and the fact he couldn't claim total ignorance on the matter.

  

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14. "Listening to this at my desk isn't good..."
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I'm tryna suppress groovin and rhymin along to the songs being played. DAYUM!

I'm prolly gonna go in on some 90 - 93 shit when I get home today.

  

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15. "This was cool"
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Baffled at how wrong they were about all of the KRS shit. Including Diamond himself. They played the usual shit. They never venture into his west coast production which includes some of my favorite Diamond D shit. His work with Tha Liks, Xzibit, The Pharcyde, Ras Kass, etc. Nobody ever asks about his work with House of Pain either. Word is Bond OG version and Remix are bangers!

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24. "I'm bugging at my desk at the KRS shit"
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I'm mad they didn't do none of that Liks stuff. SMH great episode though.

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55. "the OutKast stuff too"
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"Southerplayalistic ..." remix was fire

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17. "This dude said "you never got to work on a Gangstarr record right?""
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LOL Diamond's response was perfect.

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>LOL Diamond's response was perfect.

  

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37. "that really was, the ol smile/short-answer-to-a-stupid-question response"
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>LOL Diamond's response was perfect.

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19. "So Diamond flipped that Das Efx sample first?"
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I never knew that.

  

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25. "RE: Diamond D on Combat Jack"
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…thanks for the tip, great listen…dude is nice with his, and might be a top 5 cat in the production game...

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27. "That Pac story was great. That's why I love that dude."
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He had his asshole side but he gets out and helps a random brother and kept it 100. Glad Diamond shared that story.

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28. "when he dropped that "The Light" tho"
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GOT DAMB!!!!

Diamond easily top 10 on them beats.

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36. "RE: when he dropped that "The Light" tho"
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i didn't even know he produced that

and I definitely need that showbiz and ag "runaway slave" and brand nubian's 2nd album now

  

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54. "I'm, like, the biggest Diamond D fan there is..."
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...but top 10 is definitely debatable.

  

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29. "LOL @ the Mos Def comment"
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Yeah Mos fell off after Black On Both Sides.

  

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51. "The Ecstatic had some solid cuts."
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30. "Wow, I didnt know Diamond D produced so many classics"
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This is a very informative episode.

  

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31. "Hows that The Diam Piece album?"
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32. "Good. Really good even"
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Diamond does a little too much #hashtag rap when he's on the mic, but there's a lot to like about the album as a whole.

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33. "Agreed. I'm happy Fat Joe showed up for his verse"
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It's a good album.

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45. "dope as hell"
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50. "VERY good.. only gripe is I wanted more solo tracks..."
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34. "Combat had multiple brain farts on this one but overall dope episode"
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A lot of discussion worthy joints got left out, but what can you do.

  

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35. "I'll wash you the fuck up, fam=make by beats, faggot"
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"Go to the next record, Reg"

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39. "RE: Diamond D on Combat Jack"
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I really expected the interview to be more in depth, I think the time limitations threw the vibe off a bit.
So Bay wit it.

  

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40. "Seems a lot of us didn't know how Deep Diamond D's track record is"
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but there's a pretty heavy sentiment that he hasn't done much great stuff outside his first album. Sounds to me like the loud majority has been running amok without doing the facts.

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44. "RE: Diamond D on Combat Jack"
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Diamond is one of my all-time favorites, but even still, I'm not as familiar with his catalog as I outta be. That KRS joint was bananas.

I dug this ep in spite of the hosts. it annoyed me that they spent so much time letting songs from the 'mixtape' play out—play a snippet and let the man talk so you can squeeze in more gems. (that being said, I'm surprised they went with 'The Light' over 'The Truth' on Pharoahe's album.) still a dope listen, tho.

now that Diam Piece has an instrumental version, I'm ready to dive in...

  

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46. "That KRS joint is insane!!"
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47. "PLEASE tell me you've heard that before"
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I'm literally amazed at how many people didn't know Diamond D produced this stuff. Reason being that was the era that we perused the liner notes before we turned the album on.

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48. "RE: PLEASE tell me you've heard that before"
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Can't remember, but I never bought this album back in the day. I'm perfectly fine with listening to it today.

  

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49. "oh if you missed the album then it makes sense"
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that album was probably his apex as am emcee. He put on an all-world clinic on that record. I thought he couldn't top Boom Bap lyricially, but when this came out? Wow.

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56. "that's the KRS album I still go back to most, that & the live BDP album"
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I know it wasn't as 'important' to the genre as Criminal Minded or By All Means Necessary or even Return of the Boom-Bap but top to bottom that shit is a clinic in emceeing with some great production assists from prime-era DJ Premier and DITC cats like Diamond and Showbiz.

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57. "RE: Diamond D on Combat Jack"
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Diamond is a grump in general during interviews and probably doesn't elaborate enough on these tracks. I put that on CJ though, why play the whole joints? Like someone mentioned above play a snippet, then let Diamond speak. Overall, a worthwhile look into Diamond's high points. Very much agree that many solid ass joints were left out.

Premium Pete is terrible though, I miss Dallas even with some of his nonsense. Pete brings nothing but discomfort when he speaks.

  

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