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cbk
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"raise your hand if you think all vinyl should come with a FLAC download"


          

or a WAV, AIFF, ALAC, etc. lossless/high-def download instead of an mp3.

vinyl buyers are usually sound quality fetishists, right? what good is an mp3 download to folks like this???

hopefully labels recognize this soon.

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Shit, some don't even come with MP3
Apr 15th 2015
1
RE: By chance, was it something on Drag City?
Apr 15th 2015
3
RE: Or a CD copy of the album, yes.
Apr 15th 2015
2
sure.. I'd probably still record the record myself though.
Apr 15th 2015
4
do you feel guilty for "illegally" downloading the album????
Apr 16th 2015
5
Nope
Apr 16th 2015
6
      ^^^This
Apr 17th 2015
9
      ^
Apr 17th 2015
11
Why?
Apr 16th 2015
7
Yup.. And black Messiah sealed it for me
Apr 17th 2015
8
I'm So Used To Vinyl Being Just It
Apr 17th 2015
10
Nope, a WAV rip of the wax is all I need
Apr 17th 2015
12
raises hand
Apr 19th 2015
13
no. the point of vinyl is to play vinyl.
Apr 20th 2015
14
respect to y'all who love vinyl as the best sound quality, but...
Apr 21st 2015
15

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1. "Shit, some don't even come with MP3"
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I was about to pre-order a record yesterday and they were like, "NO DOWNLOAD CARD INCLUDED" in megacaps.

Which kind of annoyed me. While you can argue there are bandwidth costs, its kinda shitty to not include a digital download/separately charge for one. FLAC should be mandatory for any physical purchase one makes.

  

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3. "RE: By chance, was it something on Drag City?"
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>I was about to pre-order a record yesterday and they were
>like, "NO DOWNLOAD CARD INCLUDED" in megacaps.
>

Their anti-digital shenanigans are starting to turn me off to their otherwise great catalogue.


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Austin
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2. "RE: Or a CD copy of the album, yes."
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I'm fine with either.


Nardwuar: "Why should people care?"
Archy: "You don't have to care. I don't care. If you like it, you like it."

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http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2015/222933

  

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PG
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4. "sure.. I'd probably still record the record myself though."
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5. "do you feel guilty for "illegally" downloading the album???? "
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...if you've already paid for the vinyl???


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6. "Nope"
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And though I definitely appreciate the digital download and the choice of bitrate would be nice, I personally don't need FLAC. If I need to listen to the best quality, I'll listen to the record I just bought...

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9. "^^^This"
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>And though I definitely appreciate the digital download and
>the choice of bitrate would be nice, I personally don't need
>FLAC. If I need to listen to the best quality, I'll listen to
>the record I just bought...

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11. "^"
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>And though I definitely appreciate the digital download and
>the choice of bitrate would be nice, I personally don't need
>FLAC. If I need to listen to the best quality, I'll listen to
>the record I just bought...


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7. "Why?"
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Seven
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8. "Yup.. And black Messiah sealed it for me"
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After listening to the mp3 everyday for like 2 months..once i got the vinyl... The difference is so obvious.... I can barely listen to the mp3 anymore.

  

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10. "I'm So Used To Vinyl Being Just It"
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I don't really care if an album comes with a download cause I can really find their album as a bootleg download if I wanted, most of the time I already have it just wanted a physical copy after already knowing how the album sounds.

Today's prices on vinyl is crazy back in the day an album would cost $15 to $25, now kats wanna charge $25 to $50 for that shit, they crazy, and no it doesn't take more money to press up vinyl than fifteen years ago, kats just want to charge as much as possible; so yeah I can see why they want tell you the expensive price tag comes with a free download in mp3/lossless files, and extra 121x12 photos inside; and they still fuck you over when they include bonus tracks on the cd but not the vinyl.

I rather they include music that the cd buyers aren't getting if I'm going to pay twice as much, but do I really care if they give you the best quality digital format or a download card at all...no, but that's just cause I'm use to there not being one.


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12. "Nope, a WAV rip of the wax is all I need"
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and I can do that myself.

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13. "raises hand"
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14. "no. the point of vinyl is to play vinyl. "
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although a digital file is appreciated.

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cbk
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15. "respect to y'all who love vinyl as the best sound quality, but..."
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Tue Apr-21-15 10:38 AM by cbk

          

...I'm definitely not in that boat.

vinyl to me is an alternative, nostalgic, romantic listening experience, reserved for those albums I REALLY really like.

but for me, "the best" sound quality is the closest thing that the mastering engineer will hear when he's mastering the project, which I understand (correctly? incorrectly?) nowadays as the highest-resolution digi copy. AND, if I'm not mistaken, all vinyl today is pressed from digi masters anyway. gone are the days of tape masters specific for vinyl projects. but maybe the recent vinyl resurgence will change this. fingers crossed.

with that in mind, if I'm gonna pay $20 for an album, I'd love to have a high-res digital copy come with my vinyl so 1, I can have the best-available-per-my-preferences digi copy of the album, and 2, so I can compare and really understand the sound differences between the formats.

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