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"Tyler The Creator - Cherry Bomb LP April 13th"


  

          

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/id983056044

  

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has Tyler ever made a good album? Does he even like making music now?
Apr 08th 2015
1
lol
Apr 08th 2015
2
you call hip hop in general is "amateurish" compared to TPAB...
Apr 09th 2015
12
      let's say you dont like the rapping
Apr 10th 2015
41
           good job at not acknowledging your own claim...
Apr 14th 2015
71
                Hip Hop in general is amateurish compared to Kendrick's album
Apr 14th 2015
74
                     RE: Hip Hop in general is amateurish compared to Kendrick's album
Apr 15th 2015
75
Wolf was a good album. Goblin was not.
Apr 09th 2015
3
yep
Apr 09th 2015
4
Wanted to love both, neither really got there for me
Apr 09th 2015
6
"Doris" is a very good album. Probably my favorite out of their camp
Apr 09th 2015
14
RE: Wolf was one of my favorites in 2013
Apr 09th 2015
8
Bastard >>>>>Wolf>>>>>Goblin nm
Apr 09th 2015
9
      I've actually never heard Bastard. Probably should check it out
Apr 09th 2015
15
RE: has Tyler ever made a good album? Does he even like making music now...
Apr 09th 2015
7
I really dug Wolf
Apr 09th 2015
11
Bastard is Great IMO. Goblin was BAD. Wolf was Very Good
Apr 09th 2015
20
      nailed it
Apr 13th 2015
57
If he doesn't drastically step his game up here, I'm done with him.
Apr 09th 2015
5
Both of the songs are dope!
Apr 09th 2015
10
His career has been over. Nobody cares. n/m
Apr 09th 2015
13
LULZ.
Apr 09th 2015
16
you cared enough to reply
Apr 09th 2015
19
      You nailed it
Apr 09th 2015
25
           You mad ur son likes Tyler lol
Apr 09th 2015
27
           I'm pissed. I blame his momma (your momma), though.
Apr 10th 2015
30
                You got that Michael Rappaport humor that's ur culture.
Apr 10th 2015
33
                     Nah, I'm serious. I blame his (your) momma.
Apr 10th 2015
34
                          ask ur momma what my pole feels like.
Apr 10th 2015
40
                               You sound a wee bit irritated.
Apr 10th 2015
44
                                    I'm helping u find ur self I know you got a lot of anger pent up.
Apr 10th 2015
45
           so does no one care or does he have an audience who cares?
Apr 10th 2015
31
                He has an audience. So does Insane Clown Posse, though.
Apr 10th 2015
35
if ever his love affair with Pharrell was more evident....nm
Apr 09th 2015
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RE: if ever his love affair with Pharrell was more evident....nm
Apr 09th 2015
18
      it is. Chaz Budnick is apparently also on that one
Apr 09th 2015
23
      RE: if ever his love affair with Pharrell was more evident....nm
Apr 09th 2015
24
      Is this supposed to be bad?
Apr 16th 2015
85
           RE: Is this supposed to be bad?
Apr 16th 2015
90
god damn those songs suck!!
Apr 09th 2015
21
He's not good at anything.
Apr 09th 2015
26
I'm gonna be one of the few that fools with him here... LOL
Apr 09th 2015
22
Is it dope 2 straight up imitate your idols? Geez, this is NERD karaoke
Apr 09th 2015
28
don't care if it's not better than bastard
Apr 10th 2015
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the problem is he didn't have a peak, he peaked at Fallon, Yonkers vid
Apr 10th 2015
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      Problem is he was given the keys too soon
Apr 10th 2015
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      so you're just here to be negative?
Apr 10th 2015
38
           jesus bro. those are reasonable critiques
Apr 10th 2015
39
                he came out the gate being ridiculous with reply 1
Apr 10th 2015
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                     I came out referencing an actual comment Tyler made recently about
Apr 10th 2015
43
                          solid points n/m
Apr 13th 2015
49
Excellence n/m
Apr 10th 2015
32
This kid had the limitless potential Kendrick has.
Apr 11th 2015
46
Album is garbage.A few decent songs. Ye and Wayne were good.
Apr 12th 2015
47
Welp, now that this is out the way...can we get that EarlWolf album?
Apr 12th 2015
48
Tyler is mostly a hindrance to Earl at this point.
Apr 13th 2015
51
this really isn't that good to me
Apr 13th 2015
50
i haven't heard such a poor sounding album in a while
Apr 13th 2015
52
Yeah I'm kinda amazed at how crappy the mastering job is.
Apr 13th 2015
60
      like i don't even want to evaluate the music. just listening to it hurts...
Apr 13th 2015
65
thoughts while listening
Apr 13th 2015
53
you spit a bar here:
Apr 13th 2015
55
Interesting
Apr 19th 2015
109
Oh god. This is awful
Apr 13th 2015
54
what a NERD.
Apr 13th 2015
56
this is music for niggas that still eat boogers.
Apr 13th 2015
58
Apology accepted, Lesson.
Apr 13th 2015
59
U gonna be stuck with Tyler for a while friend.
Apr 13th 2015
62
Nobody brown and/or above 21 will ever buy a Tyler album again.
Apr 14th 2015
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      you sound dumb starting sentences with "nobody..."
Apr 14th 2015
70
           Unlike you, I've spent money on Tyler's music
Apr 14th 2015
72
                still trolling. sad.
Apr 14th 2015
73
You're still mad about Kendrick.
Apr 15th 2015
76
      How's that new Action Bronson?
Apr 16th 2015
80
           Um..... aren't you of of the many El-P Stans here.
Apr 16th 2015
86
                No, but you are of of sadness
Apr 16th 2015
88
                     Stop lying you got dude on your shoulders.
Apr 16th 2015
89
His chill tracks kinda stole the show here.
Apr 13th 2015
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I was real surprised to hear that
Apr 14th 2015
69
      It was a good spot too.
Apr 16th 2015
82
The highs are pretty high.
Apr 13th 2015
63
Tyler has an uncanny knack...
Apr 13th 2015
64
Summed up my thoughts w/ this right here
Apr 14th 2015
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Im here for millennial artists jacking timbo and pharrell
Apr 14th 2015
68
COME AND LIGHT MY FIRE, I'LL BLOW YA FUCKIN FACE OFF
Apr 15th 2015
77
Wayne needs to rhyme over shit like that more often on his studio albums
Apr 15th 2015
78
Yeah especially with them silly ass rhymes n punchlines
Apr 16th 2015
79
      his voice also sounds better than it has in years
Apr 16th 2015
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           RE: his voice also sounds better than it has in years
Apr 16th 2015
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I'm sure it would be nearly impossible
Apr 16th 2015
81
this album sounds like digital sharting
Apr 16th 2015
83
Ok, I have to hear this Big Sean shit
Apr 16th 2015
93
      right, these MFers really hyping it
Apr 16th 2015
94
      It's good for a Big Sean album
Apr 16th 2015
95
      HAHA. I trust you Nick
Apr 16th 2015
96
      he finally got his "debut" album right on the 3rd try.
Apr 18th 2015
103
      Dude made a cohesive album....credit where credit is due.
Apr 18th 2015
105
I listened to Wolf. Can y'all point me to anything he's done like this s...
Apr 16th 2015
84
Half of it's good..other half is bowels
Apr 16th 2015
91
RE: Tyler The Creator - Cherry Bomb LP April 13th
Apr 17th 2015
97
the mixing makes this album unbearable for me
Apr 17th 2015
98
man, 'Buffalo' is brilliance.
Apr 17th 2015
99
Weird
Apr 17th 2015
100
EXACTLY!
Apr 17th 2015
101
how many people care about the lyrics on Smells Like Teen Spirit?
Apr 18th 2015
102
      That is a terrible comparison IMO
Apr 18th 2015
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           aka he didnt do what I wanted him to do
Apr 18th 2015
106
                It makes it bad (to me) man
Apr 18th 2015
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                RE: aka he didnt do what I wanted him to do
Apr 29th 2015
116
not really sure what to think after first couple listens
Apr 18th 2015
108
It's bad, but strangely entertaining in places
Apr 28th 2015
110
my reception is way different. I'll do a track by track review.
Apr 29th 2015
114
surprise, I dont actually care for it.
Apr 29th 2015
111
Why the fuck were you commenting then?
Apr 29th 2015
112
you have actual mental issues.
Apr 29th 2015
119
so your critique/opinion is valid, and every one elses was bullshit
Apr 29th 2015
113
please show me where I said "your opinion is bullshit"
Apr 29th 2015
117
yup, I was correct. none of the discussion was about this album.
Apr 29th 2015
118
why do you think it grew off you?
Apr 29th 2015
115
      I was never super hype about this album
Apr 29th 2015
120
Documentary is out now.
Jun 02nd 2017
121
Im nothing if not consistent
Jun 02nd 2017
122

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1. "has Tyler ever made a good album? Does he even like making music now?"
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I could have sworn I just heard him say he doesn't but eh, I'll give this a listen just because the climate for good new rap music has been so fertile recently and Earl's album was great but can't say I'm expecting much.

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2. "lol "
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12. "you call hip hop in general is "amateurish" compared to TPAB..."
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But laugh at someone for thinking Tyler doesn't make good albums?? You do realize the immature rap shit ain't for everybody..

if hip hop in general is amateurish compared to TPAB, how do you categorize most of Tyler's catalog? Less than "amateurish"?

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41. "let's say you dont like the rapping"
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>if hip hop in general is amateurish compared to TPAB, how do
>you categorize most of Tyler's catalog? Less than
>"amateurish"?

if you dont respect the production on Wolf you're a liar

also you cant compare Tyler to (Drake, Kendrick, Cole, Big Sean etc.) he's a very different animal

  

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71. "good job at not acknowledging your own claim..."
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74. "Hip Hop in general is amateurish compared to Kendrick's album"
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if you want to lump an album featuring Roy Ayers, Dam Funk, Leon Ware, Wanya Morris (Boyz II Men), Alice Smith, Coco from Quadron and others in with "Hip Hop in general" just because you dont like the rapper on it, be my guest

your turn, internet debater

  

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75. "RE: Hip Hop in general is amateurish compared to Kendrick's album"
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>if you want to lump an album featuring Roy Ayers, Dam Funk,
>Leon Ware, Wanya Morris (Boyz II Men), Alice Smith, Coco from
>Quadron and others in with "Hip Hop in general" just because
>you dont like the rapper on it, be my guest
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>your turn, internet debater


Who is the rapper I don't like?

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3. "Wolf was a good album. Goblin was not. "
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6. "Wanted to love both, neither really got there for me"
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And I was in love with OF as a promise early, the attitude, fresh perspective, DYI-ness, subvulture, style, visuals, personalities, the live show mayhem, an ability to create "moments", hodgepodge of musical approaches, etc.

But none of the actual album work ever added up to more than even an early TDE mixtape album, b-team Dipset comps or c-team Wu affiliates level of work aside from maybe Earl's first record or individual songs here or there (Yonkers, Novacaine, Dontcha, Sandwiches).

Earl's new record is the only one that works as a front to back certified good-to-great piece of work on musical merit alone.

And Tyler somehow seems to have regressed from The RZA of the collective to a disinterested carnival barker.

Like I said, I'll give this record a chance on the strength.

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14. ""Doris" is a very good album. Probably my favorite out of their camp"
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Prefer it "I Don't Like Shit...", just because the beat on that one are such a drag to me.

But I'll definitely give the new Tyler it's day in court.

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8. "RE: Wolf was one of my favorites in 2013"
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Didn't dig Goblin and not feeling these two new songs either

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9. "Bastard >>>>>Wolf>>>>>Goblin nm"
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15. "I've actually never heard Bastard. Probably should check it out"
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7. "RE: has Tyler ever made a good album? Does he even like making music now..."
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Goblin...OK album....Wolf..a VERY good album.....The rest? I'm not really into...

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11. "I really dug Wolf"
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which surprised me, because I wasn't into Odd Future, deleted the couple of free mixtapes I had downloaded from that camp, and disliked Goblin outside of a couple cool tracks. Wolf was a very good album. I'll give a new one at least a chance.

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20. "Bastard is Great IMO. Goblin was BAD. Wolf was Very Good"
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Bastard is a classic bedroom record. with a young kid alone with his own thoughts (and some friends) really committed to an aesthetic. there was a few misses, but overall that album is what made me a fan. followed by EARL ep I was hype for their whole shit

shit, me and AFKAP were the first two to post about them in here

Goblin was a train wreck of expectations and trying to be really musical and his ideal's influence was all over the records in a bad way, because it was a poorly executed version of Bastard

Wolf had so FANTASTIC highs, but Tyler's content and need to be super alt-Black makes some of it very grating. But conceptually it's a great record about two enemies (his own consciousness) fighting over the same girl

  

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57. "nailed it"
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>Goblin was a train wreck of expectations and trying to be
>really musical and his ideal's influence was all over the
>records in a bad way, because it was a poorly executed version
>of Bastard

yeah. Goblin kind of felt like his most "not giving a shit" record right there. there were moments. others, I was having a hard time following.


>Wolf had so FANTASTIC highs, but Tyler's content and need to
>be super alt-Black makes some of it very grating. But
>conceptually it's a great record about two enemies (his own
>consciousness) fighting over the same girl

I have really been digging Wolf as of late. I mean, I would have been a full blown Stan in my teens if this music was around back then.


But for now, I enjoy the music, occasionally cringe/suppress laughter at some of the content.

production is really ill, and I dug the general concept and his way about approaching it.

and yeah, the "super alt-Black" shit is how you know it's a 2010s record. the dude is super "of his times", I've noticed. the whole bullshit Internet culture is all in his music

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5. "If he doesn't drastically step his game up here, I'm done with him."
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And I say this as an early Tyler supporter. I swore he was gonna be the next genius,
but all of his solo work since Bastard has been pretty disappointing to me.
The VAST majority of the beats he's done after producing free mixtapes for himself
and his crew have been pretty mediocre, imo.
It took me a long time to come to terms with this, because I was rooting so hard for
him and wanted to like his stuff so much. Even when his stuff is good, like "Her" with
Frank Ocean or "Bimmer", it feels like he lucks up on being dope more than he does it
on purpose. On top of that, his old stuff like "Rolling Papers" for Domo or VCR for himself,
or "Oblivion" is ALL better than anything he's done since with the exception
of maybe "Yonkers" which was like him falling off compared to how sick he'd previously been.

It's funny how he likes to pretend he's totally unphased by any of the stuff happening around him,
because when he started charging for the music and signed to a record
label is when his music started to suffer. I think the whole "in my own world" act is more
of how he WISHES he was than how he actually is.

And for the love of god, don't let this fool still be acting like an annoying 11 yr old in
interviews, because it used to be funny SOMEtimes but now he just comes off obnoxious and ridiculous.

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10. "Both of the songs are dope!"
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Fuck your fort!

  

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13. "His career has been over. Nobody cares. n/m"
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16. "LULZ. "
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You're mad again.

  

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19. "you cared enough to reply"
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every two years he drops something that pleases his audience, yet no one cares

  

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25. "You nailed it"
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>every two years he drops something that pleases his audience,
>yet no one cares

"His audience" = 15 y/o white kids from Aspen who don't
like rap music



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27. "You mad ur son likes Tyler lol"
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It could be worse he could think Em is the best mc.
I'm not a big Tyler fan myself so continue hating.

Where u live in Aspen send me some trees fam

  

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30. "I'm pissed. I blame his momma (your momma), though. "
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His mother raised my boy like a wimpy 15 year old
wealthy white skateboarder

Kinda like she raised you.

  

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33. "You got that Michael Rappaport humor that's ur culture."
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You outside lookin in

  

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Orbit_Established
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34. "Nah, I'm serious. I blame his (your) momma. "
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It's kind of a sore spot, so I'd rather not discuss it
on these boards.

  

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40. " ask ur momma what my pole feels like."
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It's definitely a sore spot for her.

P.S tell that bitch (your mom) to put cheese in my grits next time.

  

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Orbit_Established
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44. "You sound a wee bit irritated. "
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Hug or nah?

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45. "I'm helping u find ur self I know you got a lot of anger pent up."
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Welcome to manhood.

  

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31. "so does no one care or does he have an audience who cares?"
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mind you, i know you're just trolling but i'll play along

  

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35. "He has an audience. So does Insane Clown Posse, though. "
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I know you're fans of both.

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17. "if ever his love affair with Pharrell was more evident....nm"
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Waldorf and Statler Vol 4:CONAN IS OUT NOW!!!: http://waldorfandstatler.bandcamp.com

and don't forget to check "DVS 4 ALDERMAN"

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18. "RE: if ever his love affair with Pharrell was more evident....nm"
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Both songs are VERY Fly or Die era N.E.R.D

also sounds like Uncle Charlie on that Young song

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23. "it is. Chaz Budnick is apparently also on that one"
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24. "RE: if ever his love affair with Pharrell was more evident....nm"
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>also sounds like Uncle Charlie on that Young song

https://twitter.com/fucktyler/status/586016081715658752

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85. "Is this supposed to be bad?"
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>Both songs are VERY Fly or Die era N.E.R.D
>
>also sounds like Uncle Charlie on that Young song

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90. "RE: Is this supposed to be bad?"
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nope

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21. "god damn those songs suck!!"
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he's still doing NERD tributes, actin' clownish, forcing the funny?

nope. not interested

  

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26. "He's not good at anything. "
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Like, nothing.

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22. "I'm gonna be one of the few that fools with him here... LOL"
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even though his whole persona reminds me of that weird ass, Eric Andre, Tim and Eric type bullshit, plus every negative stereotype of people who "came up" in the Aughts

the music is A-Ok with me. very much a disciple of N*E*R*D, who I had to look past the blinders of Neptunes hate to appreciate

(I still ain't forgive them for the damage they did to rap music in the late '90s/early '00s)

  

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28. "Is it dope 2 straight up imitate your idols? Geez, this is NERD karaoke"
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referring to the 2 song available now (deathcamp & fuckin young)
Dude didn't even put anything his own into it.
I know he said he wants to "make the music he listens to", but damn.
He didn't even personalize it.

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29. "don't care if it's not better than bastard"
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he peaked too soon

  

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36. "the problem is he didn't have a peak, he peaked at Fallon, Yonkers vid"
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Oldie and some early lo-fi EarlWolf mixtape material like Assmilk when he sounded like he might still go to interesting places (that joint almost had a hint of Souls Of Mischief in it) but then never really did.

Once he started getting a video budget, selling socks, putting out half-ass albums/records and continuing to act 15 while growing into adulthood it got boring.

And I'm not even hating on the MTV thing because I literally never saw it, don't even know what channel MTV is on my cable box anymore.

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37. "Problem is he was given the keys too soon"
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We're finding out that he was better at making logos
than music

He needed real guidance


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38. "so you're just here to be negative?"
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39. "jesus bro. those are reasonable critiques"
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Not all valid, but far from negative

  

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42. "he came out the gate being ridiculous with reply 1"
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only to continue hammering his point home

  

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43. "I came out referencing an actual comment Tyler made recently about "
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not giving a shit about this rap shit like within the past two months.

And expressing my dissapointment in general with what looked to me like a promising musical career at one point that never fully materialized to my ears or really amongst the culture in general.

There's no signature songs or albums that Tyler can hang his hat on, just some cool moments and interesting artists in the collective with really only Earl being the one who's career warrants close study so far unless you like badly sung lounge-vibe r&b.

Stop acting weird about me expressing that opinion.

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49. "solid points n/m"
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32. "Excellence n/m"
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THE HOME OF BOOK-NESS:
http://www.thisisbooksmusic.com/
http://twitter.com/thisisjohnbook
http://www.facebook.com/book1


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46. "This kid had the limitless potential Kendrick has."
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But his music is still dreadful. STILL

  

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47. "Album is garbage.A few decent songs. Ye and Wayne were good."
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Tyler can rap
Tyler can produce
Tyler makes the worst decisions when making music.

  

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48. "Welp, now that this is out the way...can we get that EarlWolf album?"
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Or are they going is such different directions that it will never happen?

phemom's the name, all-star writer/
searching 4 journalistic fame, mindframe igniter....www.twitter.com/hayabusaage

  

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51. "Tyler is mostly a hindrance to Earl at this point. "
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So I hope not.

  

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50. "this really isn't that good to me"
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and i really enjoy tyler's music.

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52. "i haven't heard such a poor sounding album in a while"
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who mastered this crap?

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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60. "Yeah I'm kinda amazed at how crappy the mastering job is."
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Better has been done from bedrooms with no soundproofing and free software.

>who mastered this crap?


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65. "like i don't even want to evaluate the music. just listening to it hurts..."
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such a poor stylistic choice.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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53. "thoughts while listening "
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tyler, skinny puppy called. they want their cacophony back.

funny how three years ago tyler was chirping about how sampling is for producers who lack creativity. samples all over this mess of an album

this is the product of surrounding yourself with people who are scared to say "no" to you.

i don't have track titles in front of me (listened in the car on the way to work) but i liked 1, 2, 9 & 11. the other nine songs not so much

it's like tyler won't grow up like earl did so he's hiding behind clipping distortion and vocal pitch changes instead

Esteemed author of the celebrated, double-platinum post: "Drake - Wu-Tang Forever".

  

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55. "you spit a bar here:"
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>this is the product of surrounding yourself with people who
>are scared to say "no" to you.
>
>it's like tyler won't grow up like earl did so he's hiding
>behind clipping distortion and vocal pitch changes instead

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109. "Interesting"
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>funny how three years ago tyler was chirping about how
>sampling is for producers who lack creativity. samples all
>over this mess of an album

Check out this link:

http://www.whosampled.com/sample/346169/Tyler,-the-Creator-Kanye-West-Lil-Wayne-Smuckers-Gabriele-Ducros-Metropolis-Notte/

  

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54. "Oh god. This is awful"
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Keep Earl far away from him

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56. "what a NERD."
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58. "this is music for niggas that still eat boogers."
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i think i'm done with this cat.

i've given him multiple chances, because he is talented and i dug some of the early stuff.

but this ain't for me.

dude needs to grow up. he's got the swag of a white suburban 5th grader w/ ADD who just learned how to curse last week.

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59. "Apology accepted, Lesson. "
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Remember when the Lesson got mad at O_E for saying he was done?

I said it a long time ago.

Yeah, apology accepted.

The Orbster is never wrong. Ever.

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62. "U gonna be stuck with Tyler for a while friend. "
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People are buying his music.

  

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67. "Nobody brown and/or above 21 will ever buy a Tyler album again. "
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Which means he'll eat perfectly well for a long time,
and good for him, because I support African American
youth

I've spent money on his music, unlike everyone else here,
so I've earned the right to criticize

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70. "you sound dumb starting sentences with "nobody...""
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but troll away

  

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72. "Unlike you, I've spent money on Tyler's music"
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So I've earned the right to speak

  

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73. "still trolling. sad."
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76. "You're still mad about Kendrick."
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80. "How's that new Action Bronson?"
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Bwaahhahaahahahahahahahhhaaa


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86. "Um..... aren't you of of the many El-P Stans here."
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88. "No, but you are of of sadness"
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For why u sad?


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89. "Stop lying you got dude on your shoulders."
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61. "His chill tracks kinda stole the show here."
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It's like you can tell that's where his heart really is. Kinda like he's just hanging on
to the whole wild guy act because he's afraid to let go of it.

"Find Your Wings", "Blow My Load", "2Seater", and SECOND HALF OF SMUCKERS
are the highlights here.
"Fuckin Young/Perfect" was cool too.

I think I would've liked "Pilot" more with a better mastering job.
Speaking of the terrible mastering, the title track suffers most behind that due to the
rowdy nature of it. I dig it, musically despite not really being able to hear what's
really going on. I like the energy.

Also lol @ Kanye showing up on this joint. Totally unexpected. Song was cool,
then that beat change came in like bbq flames.
Come to think of it tho, the title track is mastered JUST like Kanye's "On Site",
references "I Am A God", and sounds very Yeezus inspired all around, so I guess it
makes sense that Kanye would show up here. I light of this "epiphany" I would think
the crappy mastering on this one song was on purpose if it wasn't for it occurring
even on some more down-tempo tracks and preventing me from hearing his voice.

I thought 4 or 5 of songs were dope. Maybe 6 or 7.
I guess I can't be too mad at that.



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Dr Claw
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69. "I was real surprised to hear that"
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>Also lol @ Kanye showing up on this joint. Totally
>unexpected.

  

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82. "It was a good spot too."
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63. "The highs are pretty high."
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But the low points on this are too common and sound horrid. Pretty hard to believe this is coming out on a major label. This sounds like a very disjointed mixtape.

  

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64. "Tyler has an uncanny knack..."
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...for keeping me listening to shit that otherwise I'd have no interest in. full disclosure: one reason I like his work, because he gets on y'all's nerves for a number of reasons. same with Kanye, et al. Tyler is, and likely will forever be, an over-the-top, obnoxious muff hugger with questionable, if outright deplorable subject matter, but sophisticated musical tastes. I'm cool with that, for the most part.

if this shit was released intentionally lo-fi, it needs a good washing, the mastering is super fucked up in spots. almost as if he's expanded his "piss people off" motif into the actual sound of his music. turn that motherfuckin bass down, b.

I'll see how it does on the Nike test and the Volvo test. not even feeling the album cover like that, either. but I have a feeling I'll end up going back to this again, later.

"Fucking Young" is a winner and hilarious. but... lol, with that title, yeah, forget about it being a "hit". Same with "Blow My Load" (goddamn, these titles). I really just like where that album goes after that.

and you know what, I fucks with that. not everyone's gonna be Kendrick, not everyone's gonna be Joey. Tyler doesn't really seem to desire the spotlight, and the risk taking (or rather, the lack of such that used to mean a quick rise to the top). if this motherfucker actually gets me to actually amend my begrudging praise of Pharrell's work to something less begrudging he deserves to be enshrined.

this album kind of reminds me of a way-less focused Yeezus. a real disappointment coming off Wolf, but still better than Goblin. Goblin wasn't complete garbage, but like Wale's first studio album, you already heard a lot of shit like that before from him it dropped, and better.

on the Tyler scale: not quite #GOLFWANG, but not quite #TRASHWANG, thus average. could be better with a little more fine tuning.






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66. "Summed up my thoughts w/ this right here"
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a
>real disappointment coming off Wolf

  

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68. "Im here for millennial artists jacking timbo and pharrell "
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I love "Fucking Young." It made me wanna check out Wolf.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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77. "COME AND LIGHT MY FIRE, I'LL BLOW YA FUCKIN FACE OFF"
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I love that shit lol

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78. "Wayne needs to rhyme over shit like that more often on his studio albums"
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because the production on his own... *Martin Lawrence face*

I thought he was one of OF, he fits right in with Tyler, LOL

  

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79. "Yeah especially with them silly ass rhymes n punchlines"
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>I thought he was one of OF, he fits right in with Tyler, LOL


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87. "his voice also sounds better than it has in years"
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must be off them drugs after that scare

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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92. "RE: his voice also sounds better than it has in years"
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>must be off them drugs after that scare

Speaking of drugs, he references Aderall and Lean on the same song.

  

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81. "I'm sure it would be nearly impossible"
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because of the logistics involved, but I'd love to see footage of Smuckers performed live with all three parties involved. Would be cool on its own merits to see Kanye sing a little live without autotune, muchless to see the murderous flows Lil' Wayne and Tyler laid on that second beat. But back to Kanye; before he started his verse and while Tyler was still rhyming, you can hear Kanye harmonize a little bit in the background. Pretty funny detail given how married to autotune Kanye is.

  

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83. "this album sounds like digital sharting"
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it's not a comfortable listen after lush ass TPAB, or Big Sean's dope ass hail Mary of an album.

This schitt sounds like a kid that loves Pharrell & Eminem & wants to be as "out" as Kanye.


Super disappointing, just like Earl's offering.
But yeah...these guys ARE talented, they just sound tired of having fun.

s.blak
sit over there w/ Blu and think about why you're even here on a mic, homies

keep: looking,searching,seeking,finding

  

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93. "Ok, I have to hear this Big Sean shit"
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because while I thought "Dance (A$$)" was a funny song
multiple people have said GOOD things about that album

  

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94. "right, these MFers really hyping it"
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95. "It's good for a Big Sean album"
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Trust, you won't be blown away. It's solid though.

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96. "HAHA. I trust you Nick"
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103. "he finally got his "debut" album right on the 3rd try."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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105. "Dude made a cohesive album....credit where credit is due."
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I'm from the D. and wasn't fucking with dude AT ALL...
he made me a fan on that album.

See...y'all gotta stop listening with that, "better than/worse than" m3ntality. Mos Def,Raekwon,any M.C. with a brain would take that album sequence and make a solid record.

s.blak
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84. "I listened to Wolf. Can y'all point me to anything he's done like this s..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoXYaAGiFaM

Cause that shit ^^^^ is flames.

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91. "Half of it's good..other half is bowels"
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97. "RE: Tyler The Creator - Cherry Bomb LP April 13th"
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This has to be terrible. Wolf was absolute trash. People pretend it isn't. Doris, straight trash. The new Earl is terrible. These kids shat the bed big time.

  

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98. "the mixing makes this album unbearable for me "
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Fuck your fort!

  

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99. "man, 'Buffalo' is brilliance."
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Dude hid a lot of good shit in plain sight in those lyrics.
LMAO. Did the same thing on Wolf, but a little heavy-handedly.

I think this album, mixing/mastering issues with it aside is growing on me now.

I thought it was some bullshit at first, but he plays "jazzy" for making "dank" sounding beats. same shit that endeared me to "Cowboy".


Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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100. "Weird"
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It is obviously the talent is there, but the execution is just so dissapointing. I was really big fan of Wolf, but this, especially in terms of the mix, is just such a let down. There are certain songs like "Pilot" that just make me smh and say "music like this...should not be mixed this way"

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101. "EXACTLY!"
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>There are certain songs like "Pilot" that just make me smh and say
>"music like this...should not be mixed this way"


Could have been such a good song.

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102. "how many people care about the lyrics on Smells Like Teen Spirit?"
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maybe 2%

some music is made for moshing out

the album sounds like Tyler wanted it to. if anything he's guilty of being overly ambitious, but very little about it is "poorly done"

  

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104. "That is a terrible comparison IMO"
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The aesthetic/vibe/whatever you want to call it of this album is nothing entirely like a grunge album. Parts of this album are Pharrell and/or NERD-esque moments, which in my opinion are not meant to be mixed like how they are mixed on this album - at times it just sounds like it was recorded in a basement or extremely amaturely, which is dissapointing because I thought the sound of his last album was really good - from a mix standpoint and from a musical standpoint - it was lush, you could hear everything perfectly; really good album. I could care less if this was his decision - he is entitled to make his own decisions with music, in fact, that is part of what makes him so appealing to many people, he does whatever the fuck he wants, it is just that in this case, I think he made a terribly wrong decision.

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106. "aka he didnt do what I wanted him to do"
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>I could care less if this was his decision - he is entitled to
>make his own decisions with music, in fact, that is part of
>what makes him so appealing to many people, he does whatever
>the fuck he wants, it is just that in this case, I think he
>made a terribly wrong decision.

that doesn't make it "bad", it just isn't what you wanted him to do

Im not even caping, some of it is definitely difficult to grasp. but I'm glad he went for it, which is the overarching theme in his career: just go for it

  

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107. "It makes it bad (to me) man"
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music opinions are subjective as hell, there is no objective "bad". We could go around in circles all day with this, but at the end of the day, the music is bad to me for the reasons I explained above. We agree to disagree, I think it's bad, you think it's good and that's cool.

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116. "RE: aka he didnt do what I wanted him to do"
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>>I could care less if this was his decision - he is entitled
>to
>>make his own decisions with music, in fact, that is part of
>>what makes him so appealing to many people, he does whatever
>>the fuck he wants, it is just that in this case, I think he
>>made a terribly wrong decision.
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>that doesn't make it "bad", it just isn't what you wanted him
>to do
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>Im not even caping, some of it is definitely difficult to
>grasp. but I'm glad he went for it, which is the overarching
>theme in his career: just go for it

I agree with this in the fact that this album is exactly what Tyler wanted. Sounds like he wanted to top Yeezus, as an ultimate troll album. After this I really feel Goblin was a his most solid work post Bastard. Wolf was good production wise, and how it was put together, but it seemed way more forced than Goblin, and I felt the album was all filler, aside from a few like Cowboy, and Treehome. oan IDLSIDGO from Earl is flame

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108. "not really sure what to think after first couple listens"
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Tyler is certainly talented. I love those chord progressions, pharrell-influenced or not.

But it's not as enjoyable as it can be at times.

Maybe it'll grow on me.

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110. "It's bad, but strangely entertaining in places"
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it's sounds very much like Tyler throwing a tantrum on record. His ADD is on full blast smashing two and three songs into one record, and drowning all his Nerd influences in distortion and noise or bad / ruff mixes

in some ways it's like dude sounds hella alone, like some one who lost his best friend and doesn't have anyone to really vibe with and is bordering on that paranoid shit

you can hear he's out of ideas musically and lyrically, but his ridiculous talent allows him to create some very melodic "ugly" chords and down right boom-bap shit in songs or parts of songs.

I'll revisit later in the year, but this shit 2/5, and that's me being nice

  

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114. "my reception is way different. I'll do a track by track review."
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>in some ways it's like dude sounds hella alone, like some one
>who lost his best friend and doesn't have anyone to really
>vibe with and is bordering on that paranoid shit

I might have said that about Wolf, especially since that seems to be a recurrent theme in that album.

"Fucking Young" really got my attention at first and jumpstarted the season of #GOLFWANG I've been on recently.

1) Deathcamp - sounds vaguely Pharrell-ish (I think it's the tone of voice he's using on here). It's a wacky, rock-edged song, with pointed and at times hilarious lyrics. It's probably some of the most confident I've heard him as a rapper. 4/5

2) Buffalo - as said above, the beat bangs in a disjointed kind of boom-bap way; love the way the chords come in for the "chorus". This might be one of the best verses he's ever written, but unfortunately (like most of the album) the mixing is such, you gotta have "D'Mumblo" ears to make them out completely. 4.5/5

3) Pilot - a great song (melody wise) ruined by intentionally abrasive mixing/mastering. if this shit was more "clear" it would be among his best songs as an artist. 3/5

4) Run - this is more like an interlude. Almost sounds like Tyler doing a Kendrick Lamar song pre-TPAB or some shit. 3/5

5) Find Your Wings - finally! a song where the mixing isn't fucked up. Roy Ayers guests. This is one of those songs that perplexes you... wouldn't sound out of place after listening to Kendrick's latest, really. 5/5

6) Cherry Bomb - this takes the fucked up mix on "Pilot" to an even higher extreme; forget trying to hear the lyrics. Even D'Mumblo deciphering isn't going to bring it out. That being said, the chords you'll hear as a central theme of "Okaga, CA" first make their appearance here. Reminds me of Yeezus on coke. 3/5

7) Blow My Load - kind of reminds me of a "clean" version of "VCR Wheels" (by "clean", I mean that the lyrics aren't so fucked up that you got Westbrook face). Again with the "WTF" guest appearances (Wanya Morris, Dam Funk on keyboards... who I guessed). Syd's outro is one of those segments that really baffle me of how good it is, and how it doesn't quite fit with what many think of Tyler's persona. My favorite part of this is that "radio" segment at the end. G-O-L-F, G-O-L-F.... it's GOLF RADIO. 4.5/5

8) 2Seater - Not a "Bimmer" sequel as the title might suggest. This is a song that definitely makes me agree with that "ADD" tag you gave it in review. It's still great. 5/5

9) The Brown Stains Of Darkeese Latifah Part 6-12 - This also reminds me of some Pharrell shit, in particular, some Clipse shit. I think it's the percussion. Just a wacky song that doesn't really seem like anything but filler. Unlike other wacky songs in his catalog, like "Domo23" or "Tamale". 2.5/5

10) Fucking Young / Perfect - The "Treehome95" of this album. Only, unlike that song, Tyler doesn't GTFO the way like he did that song. I don't know how the fuck he got Chaz Bundick to play guitar on this, or even more how to get Charlie Wilson to sing THOSE lyrics... but this shit is brilliance. This is the reason I even cared to listen in the first place. I used to hit "Track Back" by the end of the first half of this song, now I just play the whole thing. I realized that this is Tyler's idea of a "Stevie Wonder"-style 2-part song (maybe that's why he called on Uncle Charlie?) 5.5/5 (NOPE)

11) Smuckers - the other attention grabber of this album, if only because of its high-profile guests, Kanye and Lil Wayne. In particular, the "Wayne" half of this song is crazy. Wayne actually doesn't sound like total shit, like he has the past couple of albums. In fact he sounds like a lost member of Odd Future, trading verses with Tyler like they've been rhyming together for years. I think this is the best "Tyler + some other dude(s)" track since "AssMilk" (might be exaggeration, but fuggit) - 5/5

12) Keep The O's - another album that kind of reminds me of something out of the Pharrell toolbox, but I don't know what. It also kind of reminds me of the style of '00s DIY rap a little bit. Another wacky/ADD song where the music is all over the place that really doesn't stick as much as some of the other tracks, but one cool thing about this is the call back to "Wolf" (and one of its best songs, "48"). 2.5/5

13) Okaga, CA - When I first heard this, I was like, "who the hell is this vaguely Marvin Gaye soundin' ass dude, this can't be Frank!" When I figured out that it was Leon Ware, cue the Wee Bey reaction GIF. Alice Smith is on this too? This is a somewhat plaintive song about Tyler leaving it all and moving out to the (fictional) town of Okaga, CA with his girlfriend (the parts voiced by Alice Smith is really where this song shines). There is a melodic call back to "Cherry Bomb" near the end of this song. For a while, I couldn't get off this song. - 5/5

14) Yellow - "CD only" track that I haven't heard but once, so I'll add comments when it's made an impression. Really unnecessary with the other tracks.

I think if Tyler definitely sounds like a loner on this one, it's because the guest spots are almost all the high-profile type, and you don't hear any other OF cohorts save Syd The Kid on this one.

I think that Tyler has come out of his shell in few ways, while retreating into it in others. For one, he's definitely toned down a lot of the content/language, even though he addresses the criticism he's received about it. He still drops the "F" word on occasion but not nearly as much as he used to, for example. The segment on "Buffalo" where he just drops it completely and replaces it with another word was hilarious. (It kind of reminds me of when I had someone on here mad by doing the same shit) There's really none of that creep factor going on with this record the way it was all over Bastard and Goblin, and even parts of Wolf (even though it seemed to serve a greater narrative).

On the other hand, the mixing/mastering is just some bullshit. "Pilot" deserves to not sound like a 10th generation Prince bootleg, because that's such a beautiful song.

When I first got my hands on this, I used to only listen to half of "Fucking Young", then that morphed to only listening to "Okaga, CA", then that morphed to only listening to "Smuckers", then that only morphed to listening to "Buffalo" (I would walk miles with nothing but that on repeat), then we get to the part where I'll start at the beginning, go to skip and just let it play. Which is kind of how I went with Wolf.

I still think Wolf is his best work. But this isn't too far behind it. Tyler is definitely not the kind of artist I ever thought I would enjoy, but the more I examine his work, it's a wonder why I never got onto the bandwagon sooner.

While it does feel like there's some distance from Tyler to the rest of the wacky world he's created around himself, it also seems like he's in a much better space in life, and it reflects in the shift in content and even his choice of words and topics.

Compare this to Goblin, when Tyler was on the precipice of stardom after the reaction to Bastard, the ascension of Earl into hip-hop lore, and the general focus of OF in the public conscience. I've not heard many albums where the feature artist sounded as disinterested as Tyler did on that album. "Radicalz" even had a segment of that beat that I loved", but his verses? that chorus... it just sounded so forced.

Even though Tyler is all over the place, I feel like the wind is behind his back on this record.

For better or worse, when it comes to Tyler, there's one constant: "How the FUCK does he do it?"

As long as he keeps having me ask that question (for a good reason), I'll keep listening.

Oh, and BTW. I bought this CD after listening to the digital version, that I liked it so much. Same with Earl's latest.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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atruhead
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111. "surprise, I dont actually care for it."
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Buffalo is amazing, 2 Seater is cool and Smuckers is out of this world

but I respect his right to go for whatever he wanted to do

  

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112. "Why the fuck were you commenting then? "
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For crying out loud, man


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119. "you have actual mental issues."
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113. "so your critique/opinion is valid, and every one elses was bullshit"
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lol

dude, you see why folk... never mind, enjoy your day

  

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atruhead
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117. "please show me where I said "your opinion is bullshit""
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I bet if I scroll through this post any disagreements are based on people saying things like his whole career is trash, etc. not simply "i dont like this album"

  

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118. "yup, I was correct. none of the discussion was about this album."
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it's just trolling and snark about him falling off a long time ago or never being good

  

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115. "why do you think it grew off you?"
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just curious

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120. "I was never super hype about this album"
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the highs are really high, the lows (Brown Stains) are as low as the worst parts on Goblin

he may have raised the bar too high with Wolf or his ambition may have been beyond his reach here

  

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121. "Documentary is out now."
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https://youtu.be/adqH75zeiKk

I don't even think I've ever listened to "Keep Da O's", and a few others. Pretty cool lil music doc.

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122. "Im nothing if not consistent"
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I still dislike this album

  

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