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"Young Thug - Tha Carter 6 [April 17th, 2015]"


  

          

Link: http://www.mtv.com/news/2126648/young-thug-carter-6-album-cover-release-date/

I like Young Thug, but this is borderline trolling. Pretty disrespectful. Birdman's really trying to stick it to Wayne. No tracklist yet, but "Check" and the song w/ Jeremih should be on there. First Young Thug solo release since 1017 Thug if we aren't counting the numerous unauthorized tapes from Gucci's camp.

Expectations?

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LOL, its only right though
Apr 08th 2015
1
Hmmm, that's true. Birdman is rap game Lou Pearlman.
Apr 08th 2015
2
But Wayne came from Juve's camp...and then his last name is Carter
Apr 08th 2015
3
      Yeah but that title was an insult to Juvenile
Apr 08th 2015
5
I need a followup article on how the hell thugger got out of those deals
Apr 08th 2015
4
RE: I need a followup article on how the hell thugger got out of those d...
Apr 09th 2015
11
      What about his original deal w/ Gucci/1017?
Apr 09th 2015
12
           1017 is Asylum/Atlantic as well.
Apr 18th 2015
17
                RE: 1017 is Asylum/Atlantic as well.
Apr 21st 2015
25
shit gonna be fire and better than all the carters.
Apr 08th 2015
6
better than carter III though?
Apr 08th 2015
8
No. 4, 5, Im Not A Human Being 1/2 & Rebirth perhaps tho
Apr 09th 2015
9
      No Ceilings was a lot of fun.
Apr 18th 2015
18
           yup that was his last good release
Apr 21st 2015
21
Baby looking like the Black version of Kingpin in that video still
Apr 08th 2015
7
borderline...? this is full troll.
Apr 09th 2015
10
drip, drip
Apr 16th 2015
13
wasn't expecting this album to be so chill?
Apr 17th 2015
14
it's obviously rich gang pt 2 remainders minus RHQ
Apr 17th 2015
15
      agreed
Apr 17th 2015
16
      RE: wouldn't be shocked if 300 buy those joints for 'hi-tunes'
Apr 20th 2015
20
           if they werent already old maybe
Apr 21st 2015
24
Really struggling with this.
Apr 20th 2015
19
2015 wayne is a poor mans young thug. it'd be awful.
Apr 21st 2015
22
This isn't even as good as Wayne's "wack" albums, you're insane
Apr 21st 2015
26
      you're really trying to put Rebirth over this?
Apr 21st 2015
27
i'm intrigued; may have to check this out
Apr 21st 2015
23

csuave03
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1. "LOL, its only right though"
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Lil Wayne did have an album called 500 Degreez.

  

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rhymesandammo
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2. "Hmmm, that's true. Birdman is rap game Lou Pearlman."
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...or at least rap game Skeletor.

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3. "But Wayne came from Juve's camp...and then his last name is Carter"
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Young Thug's real last name is probably Krzyzewski or some shit.

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csuave03
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5. "Yeah but that title was an insult to Juvenile"
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Wed Apr-08-15 04:10 PM by csuave03

  

          

and he took it as such so did the other members who left.

I mean he is saying he's hotter than than them which is why Juvenile made the 600 Degreez mixtape with the Wayne diss track.

But yeah, IDK why Thug is naming it Tha Carter as that isn't his name.

  

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4. "I need a followup article on how the hell thugger got out of those deals"
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Wed Apr-08-15 03:55 PM by BigReg

  

          

>Link:
>http://www.mtv.com/news/2126648/young-thug-carter-6-album-cover-release-date/
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>I like Young Thug, but this is borderline trolling. Pretty
>disrespectful. Birdman's really trying to stick it to Wayne.
>No tracklist yet, but "Check" and the song w/ Jeremih should
>be on there. First Young Thug solo release since 1017 Thug if
>we aren't counting the numerous unauthorized tapes from
>Gucci's camp.
>
>Expectations?

To eventually land on Cash Money. I could only imagine how much money Baby had to spend, and how much Young Thug is going to be in the hole for. Dude probably won't see a penny until Carter 9.

On the actual product:

Even though the hip-hop purist is gonna be like, "HE SUCKS" his recent output has been at or around near "Danny Glover and "Stoner" that put him on the map.

The question im wondering is how many high quality tracks he's recorded since he's been supposedly working on so many mixtapes. This might be a A$AP Ferg situation where they are cleaning up a project meant to be a mixtape and putting it out.

  

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11. "RE: I need a followup article on how the hell thugger got out of those d..."
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He's not on Cash Money... Managed by Birdman I think

He is on 300 Entertainment.. Lyor Cohen's label.. distributed by... Atlantic..

his previous deal was with Mike Caren..... at... Atlantic...

so yea..

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12. "What about his original deal w/ Gucci/1017?"
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17. "1017 is Asylum/Atlantic as well."
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I'm sure it wasn't the easiest thing in the world to consolidate all his deals but it probably wasn't as big of a mess as it originally seemed when those articles came out given every single one of those boutiques he signed up with happen to operate in the same strip mall.


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25. "RE: 1017 is Asylum/Atlantic as well."
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Exactly...

It's basically points and numbers on paper to move shit around..

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BrooklynWHAT
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6. "shit gonna be fire and better than all the carters."
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8. "better than carter III though?"
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i'd be very impressed if he could pull that off. it'll def be better than anything wayne has done since C3 though...

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9. "No. 4, 5, Im Not A Human Being 1/2 & Rebirth perhaps tho"
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I haven't heard more than half of that list above due to being a Wayne fan since '98.

It was over around C3/Drought3, definitely post-prison I'd rather just hear him on an occasional feature.

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18. "No Ceilings was a lot of fun."
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21. "yup that was his last good release"
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7. "Baby looking like the Black version of Kingpin in that video still"
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He took that comic appearance seriously

LOL @ Young Thug's positioning of the Carter logo on that album cover, that is disrespectful

  

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10. "borderline...? this is full troll."
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then again, that's Young Thug's MO

still disrespectful. That's Wayne's shit.

  

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13. "drip, drip"
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tha barter* 6 has arrived

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14. "wasn't expecting this album to be so chill?"
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Fuck your fort!

  

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15. "it's obviously rich gang pt 2 remainders minus RHQ"
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they dipped too much in London's chill beat stash for this one. it could've used some Metro Boomin joints to spice it up.

or if that rich gang leak never happened a lot of those tracks would've worked well here too.

still dope though.

metro thuggin will be better though.

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16. "agreed"
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>metro thuggin will be better though
Fuck your fort!

  

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20. "RE: wouldn't be shocked if 300 buy those joints for 'hi-tunes'"
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warrior, blanguage > barter 6
but i just skimmed up, too busy listening to future's 56 nights

  

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24. "if they werent already old maybe"
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definitely think they're gonna buy some of the upcoming metro thuggin tracks.

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19. "Really struggling with this."
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It's the best Lil' Wayne release since 2009, and I'm not sure how I feel about that. From the cover art to the not-so-sneak dissing, I feel like I just don't want the consequences of this album, should there be some.

Or maybe it lights a fire under Wayne he hasn't had consistently since 2007.

In a perfect world, obviously, he does like he did on The Prefix with Jay-Z beats only he gets ahold of all 13 of these tracks and bodies all of them just to send a message.

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22. "2015 wayne is a poor mans young thug. it'd be awful."
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26. "This isn't even as good as Wayne's "wack" albums, you're insane"
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27. "you're really trying to put Rebirth over this?"
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Tue Apr-21-15 04:12 PM by Nodima

  

          

I'll admit there's a healthy amount of "it's really over, huh?" smothering my opinion of Tha Carter IV, but I still agree with what I wrote at the time ( http://www.popmatters.com/review/146947-lil-wayne-tha-carter-iv/ ):

"…Here is Lil’ Wayne, one of hip-hop’s most exciting artists of the past decade, releasing an album worthy of L.A. Weekly releasing a 60 Worst Lil’ Wayne Lines on Tha Carter IV list with no more than four or five potentially passable inclusions. It feels rather like watching Allen Iverson attempt to play basketball in Turkey, or Memphis for that matter, and looking unfamiliarly out of place on the court. He constantly recycles concepts like “life’s a bitch”, “the F. is for” and other cliches as though they weren’t only fleetingly entertaining the first time he tried them, and he oftentimes abuses misdirection punchlines—as if “suck my greenlight” makes any sense to anyone."


Gave it a 4/10. The weight of expectations probably dropped that from a boring old five-r, but I would probably give this album a 6 for those same reasons. I've liked Black Portland but every other full Young Thug release I've heard gets way too grating at times. This is just a pure, smooth pop album that totally cashes in on the success of "Lifestyle". It's comfortably schizophrenic, and Thug's weird repetition shit like on "With That" is just baseline addictive if you let it in, in a way Wayne's super blunt choruses often weren't.


Thug's not as good a rapper as Lil' Wayne, but he's more fun right now, and he doesn't have any expectations dangling over his head to help him fuck anything up.


I'll take Wayne on Sorry 4 the Wait most of the time over Young Thug if I really think about my favorite tracks from that tape, but it wasn't as exciting to hear him put his take on hot beats, either. There were less esoteric choices, just more of a paint-by-numbers Wayne experience I've come to expect, dread and never fully prepare myself for.

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23. "i'm intrigued; may have to check this out"
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