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Hellyeah
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"Screw Run The Jewels..El P should do an album with Jeezy next"


          

remember this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKWjRw41Ods

an album with those 2 would be incredible...and would inject new life into jeezy's stagnant career

  

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nope, t.i.
Mar 29th 2015
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RE: nope, t.i.
Mar 29th 2015
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him & T.I. would be CRAZY
Mar 29th 2015
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      yup
Mar 29th 2015
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as long as he doesnt rap....nm
Mar 29th 2015
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RE: Screw Run The Jewels..El P should do an album with Jeezy next
Mar 29th 2015
3
couldn't disagree more
Mar 29th 2015
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      No, you're wrong
Mar 29th 2015
10
           I didn't say he wasn't versatile
Mar 29th 2015
12
Great track.
Mar 29th 2015
4
Jeezy gets less relevant by the day, T.I. becomes less a rap star, more
Mar 29th 2015
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You're not wrong but
Mar 30th 2015
13
      its not intended to, named regional reps in each category to avoid that
Mar 30th 2015
14
El P and Keak Da Sneak album would be classic
Mar 29th 2015
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lmao..does keak still rap?
Mar 30th 2015
15
Yeah I remeber that track. It's heat.
Mar 30th 2015
16

Ashy Achilles
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1. "nope, t.i."
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melanon
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5. "RE: nope, t.i."
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T.I. absolutely sux.

  

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7. "him & T.I. would be CRAZY"
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Sun Mar-29-15 03:28 PM by im_freshhh

  

          

im not even the biggest fan of T.I. but he fit El's production so well on that "Big Beast" track

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Ashy Achilles
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11. "yup"
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2. "as long as he doesnt rap....nm"
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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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3. "RE: Screw Run The Jewels..El P should do an album with Jeezy next"
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Boo to all that….EL needs to get Pharaohe Monch on the line...

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8. "couldn't disagree more"
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Monch is at his best over soulful production.

Dark El-P beats would only make him rap on some weird shit like butt fucking MCs

  

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Stadiq
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10. "No, you're wrong"
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>Monch is at his best over soulful production.
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>Dark El-P beats would only make him rap on some weird shit
>like butt fucking MCs

Monch is more versatile than you give him credit.

His early career is built on dark sh!t.

He and El-P would be incredible.

  

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12. "I didn't say he wasn't versatile "
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I said he is at his best over soulful production.

  

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4. "Great track."
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That whole compilation was dope and was def ahead of the curve as far as setting up the Southern Rapper/Industrial Production pairing of Run the Jewels...matter of fact weren't El-P and Killer Mike originally paired by Adult Swim?

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6. "Jeezy gets less relevant by the day, T.I. becomes less a rap star, more "
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a TV personality every week, Rick Ross if it hasn't already happened will with one more facsimile album of diminishing returns (inevitable since he's only got one lane) is poised to fall off musically like 50 or DMX once the public grows weary of buying the same thing for 4-5 years.

And none of those MC's really have much material aimed at radio, while the albums are being pushed as a connected body of work rather than the 'song for the street'/'song for the bitches'/'song for the club'/*insert-three-hottest-producers-here/etc way of building rap albums by the late 90's.

And none of the young dudes are really trying to go on press junkets, visit stations regionally, be on talk shows, take ads out or do much of the previous standard of promotion.

They've already identified their audience, built a relationship with them via touring/free-mixtapes/social-media and having established a track record of quality output even if it doesn't sound much like the earlier record they liked.

Contrast that with Luda who this week and the upcoming one we'll be seeing on TV more than Kevin Hart as he tries to push this comeback to rap.

The tide has turned, it'd already been underway dating back to the beginning of the decade as the actual money in the industry has dried up.

You'll still get your hot club singles that get a rack of downloads but that will basically be what ringtone rap was in the middle of last decade.

But most of the cats in the game now, like in the late 80's, are gonna be people that will on average genuinely love what they're doing (to a point they'd be doing it as a hobby for free which lots already do) and understand that the only way to sustain success is to bring something unique to stand out amidst the clog of content available, while building a fanbase from the roota to the toota on the road with touring, online, etc.

The first three months of 2015 has given us prolly 4 or 5 rap albums stronger than anything that came out in all of 2005 (with I guess the notable exception of Graduation but that will get cancelled out by another Kanye album this year).

Killer Mike didn't have anywhere near the commercial impact or peak that Jeezy did but he got here before him and he will outlast him on the back end.

There will of course be a demo who rocked with it as teens or in college but Jeezy, like Ross even more, will be eventually seen as time-period acts (like Nelly or Ja-Rule) or guys whose regional buzz for a stretch went big national (Trick Daddy, every Houston rapper who popped in 04/05) by the year 2020, rather than the timeless ones (Nas, Hov, the two dead guys, Wu, Kast, Tribe, Snoop, etc) which will be able to headline festivals, clean up overseas, have back-catalog/licensing tie-ins that continue, get features on big new records twenty years into their careers (like Andre, E-40, Eiht, Snoop, Hov, Nas, Meth, etc).

What was the exact point it started is debatable but we are now officially under way with a RAP RENAISSANCE that has the potential to end up being the best era for the genre since '96.

This Renaissance doesn't really include The Snowman, sorry to break that to the stragglers left in his declining audience until it's nobody but weed carriers, nostalgists and Jay Bilas.

I know that was a lot of words at times twisting and turning far away from this post's principal subject but fuck it, in order to make an interesting post about a lot of these cats I had to think about more recent exciting developments in the form.

Meanwhile the lucky members of the early 2000s final crew to suckle a full serving of milk from the corporate record industry cow teet, joined by the scant like Ross who got in for a late lick or two?

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13. "You're not wrong but"
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This is reading is anti-south

I mean couldn't you say the same thing about a lot of rappers from the 90s, i.e. Jeezy stayed relevant longer than most of the Duck Down roster sans Sean P

You're right, some rappers can stick around and craft something that stands the test of time. What did De La say...everybody cools off from being hot, it's about if you can handle being cold or not..

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14. "its not intended to, named regional reps in each category to avoid that "
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Mon Mar-30-15 06:29 AM by Bombastic

  

          

in this era of niche-driven art, viral promotion, world-wide connectivity, corporations across the country programming the same shitty radio formats and chain restaurants......regions are more meaningless than ever before aside from each artist being able to present their personal and environmental/cultural background they spring from.

After that's established, it's just about who's making authentic and entertaining work.

And there's no model for that.

It just so happened that when the wack music stopped, a few of the prominent mainstream vet names (like the one named in this thread's subject line) left scrambling for a chair happened to be considered "Southern".

Yet Rick Ross on the other hand barely even sounds/feels like "The South" since Miami as a metropolis is kinda its own planet in & of itself while also happening to be filled with the highest concentration of New York City folk outside the five boroughs while co-signing many cold-weather-bred transplants.

However for any of those who happend to be scoring at home, L.A. is now the leader in the cclubhouse for the first time since Death Row fell apart in the late 90-s but I don't expect that to last too long.

And recently from that corner of the map, I dig the youthful exuberance displayed by the Rae Srremmund kids plus look forward to Juvie dropping that Mardi Gras project or that MannieFresh/MosDef surfacing at some point.


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9. "El P and Keak Da Sneak album would be classic"
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Hellyeah
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15. "lmao..does keak still rap?"
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16. "Yeah I remeber that track. It's heat."
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But naw, I'm not interested in Jeezy anymore.

  

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