8. "I didn't look at albums as classics growing up. More like blown away" In response to Reply # 0
1. OB4CL Ready To Die (no longer consider this a classic) Enter the Wu-Tang 36 Chambers Doggystyle The Chronic Soul Food Guerrilla Warfare Streets Iz A Mutha
2. Liquid Swords Firing Squad It Was Written (I didn't dislike it but I love it way more now)
>1. know right away were all-time classics ("I always knew, >fuck y'all!")
Almost all West Coast classics, Outkast's albums, Blueprint, Ready to die
>2. slept on at first, but now acknowledge their status ("i'll >take my L")
I don't know how it counts, but it's a lot of these I didn't hear til years and years later. I heard Reasonable doubt in 01...Straight outta Compton in 05...Adventures of Slick Rick in 06...The Minstrel Show in 07, and The Listening in like 2010...Fantastic Vol. 2 in 2010....Illmatic maybe 05...Low End Theory 08-09....Death Certificate in 07....The Purple Tape not til 2009. I caught up on a lot of them.
>3. still deny to this day ("fuck that album forever and >ever")
I'll never say that 3 Feet High and Rising isn't classic, but I just don't enjoy it a single bit. And I love all Tribe albums...this one here just feels like I had to be there to understand it. And since I wasn't, I don't get it at all.
It's a cool album, but "Below the Heavens" was always overrated to me.
10. "RE: classics: ones you knew right away, slept on, still deny" In response to Reply # 0
>let's keep this tpab buzz still going... > >among the hip-hop albums considered all-time benchmarks, which >ones did you... > >1. know right away were all-time classics ("I always knew, >fuck y'all!")
Illmatic 36 Chambers The Sun Rises Hard to Earn Living Proof Supreme Clientele Ironman '93 til Infinity Midnight Marauders Cuban Linx Return of the Boom Bap Blackstar Legal Drug Money The Score Things Fall Apart It Was Written
> >2. slept on at first, but now acknowledge their status ("i'll >take my L")
Mama Said Knock You Out (I was a LL hater. This album changed my mind) Aquemini Southernplayalistic Straight Outta Compton Super Tight Buloone Mindstate De La Soul is Dead Kill at Will Soundbombing 1 & 2 Daily Operation Do You Want More?? 2 Hype The Infamous 21 & Over The Diary Dare is a Darkside > >3. still deny to this day ("fuck that album forever and >ever") Any Jay-Z album Any Eminem album (Can't get past the disturbing subject matter) Ready to Die
You're such pests...now, what is it you want? In your depths of your ignorance, what is it you want? Well, whatever it is you want, I can't deliver because I just don't see it. - Orson Welles
14. "My issue with Ready to Die is that it's all over the place." In response to Reply # 11
For me, it just keeps jumping from raw to smooth and back and forth.
I think it's a very good album without question, but it just has a lot of weaker parts. On top of that, the best songs from that era are non-album tracks (Who Shot Ya & OMC/Stay With Me)
You're such pests...now, what is it you want? In your depths of your ignorance, what is it you want? Well, whatever it is you want, I can't deliver because I just don't see it. - Orson Welles
15. "I don't really have any grievances..." In response to Reply # 11
I do like the album and I liked it back then. It was a popular album and a whole lot of fun but I just don't think it's as great as folks seem to today. I don't remember anyone (except Puffy) calling it a classic while it was out. Heads seem to love it more now than they did when it was hot. I understand that a little, especially after Biggie's death. I just don't think it belongs among the all-time great albums.
I also like Sleepy's point that 2 of his best songs weren't on the album.
17. "i don't hate the album by any means" In response to Reply # 11
it's just not worthy of being a benchmark album to me. it gets it's accolades by default--cuz of biggie's death, how influential it was, and because it was one of the few east coast albums that REALLY went pop at the time. none of these things were positives for me. I wish big had lived, I wish nas would've made illmatic part 2 rather than IWW, and I wish the album would've flopped causing big to make some underground backpacker shit that would've then went platinum.
13. "RE: classics: ones you knew right away, slept on, still deny" In response to Reply # 0
>among the hip-hop albums considered all-time benchmarks, which >ones did you... > >1. know right away were all-time classics ("I always knew, >fuck y'all!") The Chronic Doggystyle Fear of a Black Planet Kill at Will Midnight Marauders The Low End Theory Aquemini Things Fall Apart Like Water for Chocolate All Eyez on Me Endtroducing Black on Both Sides Enter the 36 Chambers Southernplayalisticcadillacmusic Black Album Late Registration Graduation Buhloone Mindstate Bizarre Ride II Good Kid, m.A.A.d City > >2. slept on at first, but now acknowledge their status ("i'll >take my L") Paul's Boutique Odelay ATLiens BlackStar Reasonable Doubt Illmatic Ready to Die Me Against the World Life After Death Stakes is High To Pimp a Butterfly The Cold Vein
>3. still deny to this day ("fuck that album forever and >ever") Labcabincalifornia - It's a good album, but not a classic Fantastic, Vol 2. - Just don't get the hype Wu-Tang Forever - Really liked it at first, but doesn't live up to the hype. To be fair, none of those late 90's double albums do.
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