Hard Crisp Drums.. 85-92 bpm.. 1 bar sample loops... basslines sans 808s
It seems like Boi-1da and Vinyls definitely innovated on something much closer to early-mid 90s east coast rap than has been done previously..
What say you...
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4. "RE: no such thing as new boom bap" In response to Reply # 1
errr
what would you define as boom bap sonically.. like what elements make a beat that..
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7. "RE: The first thing I thought when hearing 0-100 was..." In response to Reply # 6
yea.. its funny that for all the flack the kid gets the (recent) beats are had ass hip hop joints..
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10. "RE: That's not "boom bap"" In response to Reply # 8
hihats are definitely different..
But that is 2015.. that's what I am saying.. this is an evolution of the sound
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12. "Sounds don't evolve at this point in Hip-Hop" In response to Reply # 10 Thu Feb-26-15 05:43 PM by handle
>But that is 2015.. that's what I am saying.. this is an >evolution of the sound
New sub-genres appear.
Having the high hats and fills be twice as fast (or more) as the beat's tempo is NOT boom-bap. Not an evolution of it.
It's that southern / trap influence.
Also I associate boom-bap with sampled drums or drum machine sounds that sound like sampled drums -- and not electronic drum sounds.
Boom-bap is faster the examples you posted from Drake. Drake is usually slower - except for fills and hi-hats - but SFTB is faster - so maybe that's why you're thinking it's boom-bap-ish.
15. "RE: Sounds don't evolve at this point in Hip-Hop" In response to Reply # 12 Thu Feb-26-15 06:14 PM by double 0
Sounds don't evolve? How can you say that..
The subgenre thing is always x+y=z which is still an evolution of the 2 anyway
Now it may not be "boom bap" but it certainly references it..
and 82-105 is exactly the Boom Bap tempo which all this shit falls in...
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#1 - can we please stop using the term "boombap"? nobody called sample-based rap production that in the 90's. the term is came from mimicking soul-style breakbeats. hence, no breakbeat = no boom bap.
#2 - that "sound" is mike zombie. not boi-1da or vinylz
he did a mixtape in 2013 with a bunch of tracks like "started from the bottom". i posted about it here:
#3 - i've argued for literally years that the east coast needed to rock tempos 80-110 bpm if they ever wanted to make music that sounded like it was from the east coast.
Of course we should stop using the term.. BUT if we are going to discuss the elements sonically they draw a direct line to that era
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17. "RE: east coast sounding production is more appropriate." In response to Reply # 16
You made me go a look up his discography.. and yea.. He really aint pop like he should've..
but "Started.." was early in this style.. it coalesced with "0-100". There were not that many records you could mix with it when it first dropped... now you have joints like Lifestyle, Hot N*gga, Try Me, My N*gga, Fight Night and other Drake songs that allow for the sound to grow since it can play well with others
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