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"It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?"
Tue Feb-24-15 05:17 PM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

An oscar and a grammy for writing rhymes for Common and Kanye respectively?

Who has a better track record than that?


BTW, GOAT Ghostwriter has to be a bitter sweet title right?


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RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?
Feb 24th 2015
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Hard to say...
Feb 24th 2015
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to the point this very board, full of Common super-stans, has a thread
Feb 24th 2015
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RE: to the point this very board, full of Common super-stans, has a thre...
Feb 24th 2015
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I don't know, I am a big Rhymefest fan
Feb 24th 2015
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      That Man In The Mirror was cold n/m
Feb 24th 2015
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           hell and yeah !!!
Feb 27th 2015
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Only Reason Why Rhymefest Wrote It Cause Of Conyay
Feb 24th 2015
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No shout out this time, tho :/
Feb 24th 2015
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RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?
Feb 24th 2015
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RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?
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RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?
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      RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?
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           RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?
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                RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?
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                     RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?
Feb 26th 2015
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'fest is the apart of that OG good music 'writing camp'. sauce $ a close...
Feb 24th 2015
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damn, never knew Sauce wrote Benjamins...
Feb 27th 2015
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Sauce writing Puff's verses for I'll be Missing You
Mar 01st 2015
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      how do you know that's not what happened.
Mar 02nd 2015
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RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?
Feb 25th 2015
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Good Answer!
Feb 25th 2015
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Rhymefest, Cube, DOC, and Skillz are top tier Ghostwriters
Feb 25th 2015
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Yall and this white validation. Oscars don't determine shit in Hip Hop
Feb 25th 2015
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RE: Yall and this white validation. Oscars don't determine shit in Hip ...
Feb 25th 2015
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that's not what he's saying though
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      Correct.
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      RE: Correct.
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           RE: Correct.
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                RE: Correct.
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                     RE: Correct.
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                          RE: Correct.
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                               RE: Correct.
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      Ya fell for the hook to make sure this posts don't sink homey.
Mar 01st 2015
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Man tell deez Katz!
Feb 27th 2015
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From battle rapper to Grammy/Oscar winner
Feb 25th 2015
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It's strange how people wont accept Fest's harsh reality rhymes
Feb 25th 2015
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RE: It's strange how people wont accept Fest's harsh reality rhymes
Feb 26th 2015
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Can it really be called ghostwriting if he's credited...
Feb 25th 2015
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Only in the hip-hop 'rappers need to be writers too;...
Feb 25th 2015
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i put Krondon from Strong Arm Steady on that top tier n/m
Feb 26th 2015
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Who does/did he write for?
Feb 26th 2015
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      Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent & Dr. Dre are ones he actually confirmed
Mar 01st 2015
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Ya'll remember when he was on tour and crashing at folks cribs?
Feb 26th 2015
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Rhymefest - Real Nigga Quotes (prod. by DJ Premier)
Feb 26th 2015
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Was Street ghostwriting for Meth?
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1. "RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?"
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Mad Skillz was the GOAT I thought?

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2. "Hard to say..."
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Seeing as though most of them are not publically acknowledged for everything that they have done.
Fest has def. had some truly high profile contributions though.

I'm surprised I haven't heard cats barking about Common saying a rhyme that someone else wrote part of.


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3. "to the point this very board, full of Common super-stans, has a thread"
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Tue Feb-24-15 05:30 PM by Nodima

  

          

dedicated to his success.

but it's especially weird considering his own albums don't register that way.

'cause I do think Glory deserved it's praise despite the reaction I've seen before and after. It causes feelings.

But Rhymefest's actual music (often because of beats, sometimes because of rhymes) is just there. Which is weird considering the number of FANTASTIC songs he is a part of.

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4. "RE: to the point this very board, full of Common super-stans, has a thre..."
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some writers don't make great artists..

Plus Fest out here REALLY tryna change shit on the ground in Chicago with the DONDA Foundation so..

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5. "I don't know, I am a big Rhymefest fan"
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His mixtapes with Marc Ronson and Scram Jones are extremely dope.

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9. "That Man In The Mirror was cold n/m"
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39. "hell and yeah !!!"
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That one and the DJ Lieutenant Dan mash up mixtape.

  

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12. "Only Reason Why Rhymefest Wrote It Cause Of Conyay"
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Conyay is full of ghostwriters & ghostproduction, and this isn't the first or last time Conyay will use Rhymefest (or Consequence) for writing, he finds people who mesh with his music even for just a voice.

Notice the circles of people he chooses to work with, the same kats and they work with each other cause of that too, nothing new if you are paying attention.


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6. "No shout out this time, tho :/"
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7. "RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?"
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Why ghost write? Is he getting publishing or something? He's not listed as a songwriter so hopefully he's getting pub. Otherwise he's getting screwed, right? Break down the advantages of ghost writing for me.

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8. "RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?"
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>Why ghost write? Is he getting publishing or something? He's
>not listed as a songwriter so hopefully he's getting pub.
>Otherwise he's getting screwed, right? Break down the
>advantages of ghost writing for me.


I'd say up front money and publishing on the back end would be the reason/advantage in ghost writing/writing for others.


I doubt very highly that Fest is being "Screwed" by any means.
Fest is a smart dude.

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11. "RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?"
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Which credits are you looking at? Has him listed on wiki amd the knly one that would actually matter would be ACE

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13. "RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?"
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On the Academy Awards site they just have Lonnie Lynn & John Stephens. As long as Che getting his paper it's all good. Not sure how much he wrote but I am a little disappointed in Common if he's rapping somebody else rhymes.

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17. "RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?"
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This idea of co-writers needs to change imo...

literally every genre utilizes them.. shit so does rap... if you have the guy who wrote Jesus walks available then you def bounce ideas off him for these types of songs..


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23. "RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?"
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I hear you but did Che write rhymes for Lonnie to say? Lonnie and Kanye are on two different levels lyrically IMO. I'm not upset at Ye getting assistance buy Com shouldn't need it.

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35. "RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?"
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The Ye camp is a wealth of ideas from what I've seen..

I haven't been IN the room but I know 85% of the camp and have worked with them in some capacity...

What I assume happens is cats create an environment to be most successful in. That means the right people in the room.

Sometimes those people just have a conversation with you that leads to ideas necessary to complete the song. Sometimes those cats are there for editing and fact checking. Sometimes cats are there to rephrase lines or give you an alternative way to say it so it comes off.. funnier, more powerful etc... or they may be there to fill in the blanks on your overall idea.

Whatever he did he got the credit he deserves and that's what matters..

it shouldn't make you think any less of someone

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10. "'fest is the apart of that OG good music 'writing camp'. sauce $ a close..."
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rhymefest, consequence, glc, really doe, etc...definitely help make 'ye the artist from cd-graduation

sauce money wrote puff's verse on 'all about the benjamins' 'i'll be missing you' & helped shaqfu sound serviceable rapping with BIG on 'you can't stop the reign

  

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40. "damn, never knew Sauce wrote Benjamins..."
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... reciting the verse with his voice I can definitely hear him.

  

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43. "Sauce writing Puff's verses for I'll be Missing You"
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is laughable to me.

That's supposed to be your man and you can't pen something heartfelt
yourself?

I'm sure Puff gave Sauce some ideas but damn...

Write that shit yourself and then give it to someone
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45. "how do you know that's not what happened."
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Ghostwriting doesn't necessarily mean someone wrote the entire verse or song for you.
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14. "RE: It's official that Rhymefest is the GOAT ghost writer right?"
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Ice Cube & The D.O.C.

  

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15. "Good Answer!"
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16. "Rhymefest, Cube, DOC, and Skillz are top tier Ghostwriters"
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Those 4 deserve to mentioned in the same league...

  

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18. "Yall and this white validation. Oscars don't determine shit in Hip Hop"
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19. "RE: Yall and this white validation. Oscars don't determine shit in Hip ..."
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No but the Grammy & Oscar Award Winning Rhymefest speaking fee just went up something nice..

Call is white validation all you want but that man is being awarded at the highest levels for his artistry and because of that he can feed his family.. well

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21. "that's not what he's saying though"
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the OP suggested that Fest is the greatest GW ever because he has a Grammy and an Oscar for his efforts, which some of us would contend with because artistry is the last thing that goes into consideration for these things.
I'm not invested enough in awards to care, but it seems to me that's the part he took issue with more than it was the Oscar itself or what it can do for someone's career.

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22. "Correct."
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29. "RE: Correct."
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Yea..

I just disagree... the entire industry is built on "white people shit"

If you can navigate it, succeed and be awarded in the process that is a great thing..

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30. "RE: Correct."
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>I just disagree... the entire industry is built on "white
>people shit"


And this would be why I advocate walking away. To hell with a plantation.
Begging for crumbs from a group of old white men? We literally have to be insane to
be doing that. We have the wherewithal and the resources to build our own shit and
have our own awards shows. Too many of us are locked into the idea of white validation though.
It's sad really. If we really wanna talk about "new slaves" that's exactly what that is.
You can disagree all day, but all the embarrassing stupid shit Black people are out here
doing is because that desire for white validation. Ain't no two ways about that.

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31. "RE: Correct."
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nah bruh..

I wake up every day and do something I love.. as does Fest.. we control our own ideas and world..

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33. "RE: Correct."
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Ok? And allowing white validation to determine the value of those
ideas and that world is willful slavery.
It's pathetic of us in 2015.

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34. "RE: Correct."
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keep cookin fam...

I love what I do.. would I love to have a Grammy?.. YUP..

Do I need it to feel whole? Nope

Am I going to congratulate cats that I know busted their ass for years and can reap benefits of their labor? Yes

'Fest is working everyday to better people in the Chi as he sees fit.

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37. "RE: Correct."
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Yet, none of that is the discussion at hand.
The discussion at hand is that he was called the GOAT because some old white folks acknowledged
something he worked on. That particular acknowledgement is inconsequential to what
constitutes greatness... particularly among us.

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44. "Ya fell for the hook to make sure this posts don't sink homey."
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"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're r

  

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41. "Man tell deez Katz!"
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https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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20. "From battle rapper to Grammy/Oscar winner"
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It's been an interesting journey for 'fest. Happy for the dude.
I wouldn't say the greatest writer, but he is definitely top 10.
Been a fan of his music, even in the early WHPK days. Good to see he is still putting in work even if behind the scenes.

  

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Starks dunked on Bulls
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24. "It's strange how people wont accept Fest's harsh reality rhymes"
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unless its from the mouth of someone who wears Prada loafers.

  

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27. "RE: It's strange how people wont accept Fest's harsh reality rhymes"
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Nah, we just expect Common, one of the better emcees, to write his own material.

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25. "Can it really be called ghostwriting if he's credited..."
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and everybody knows he wrote on the song? I mean, that's just songwriting.

http://soundcloud.com/forestbrooks

  

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26. "Only in the hip-hop 'rappers need to be writers too;..."
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kind of way.

But most non-rap songs definitely are ghost-written to some degree, RE: The Black Messiah.

  

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28. "i put Krondon from Strong Arm Steady on that top tier n/m"
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38. "Who does/did he write for?"
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www.albumism.com

Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

https://www.mixcloud.com/returntozero/

  

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Mash_Comp
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42. "Snoop Dogg, 50 Cent & Dr. Dre are ones he actually confirmed"
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There's also word he did some writing for DJ Quik.

He also has done a lot of uncredited hooks too.

It's not hard to see it. The dude is a genius hook maker.

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32. "Ya'll remember when he was on tour and crashing at folks cribs?"
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He stayed with us for a couple of days





We covered by the Blood which never loose it's power



http://soundcloud.com/rayandersonjr

  

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36. "Rhymefest - Real Nigga Quotes (prod. by DJ Premier)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1FJdx3Vq1c

hip-hop in it's purest form.....

  

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46. "Was Street ghostwriting for Meth?"
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When I first I was confused looking at the liner notes for Box In Hand on Iron Man and Street's name is there even though he's not on the track.

You always hear Meth and Street on the same Wu tracks, and Street was his hype man, so I always wondered if Street ever ghostwrote for him, (just once?) but I never confirmed it.

  

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