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in that ?uest's old post wasn't specifically racial, but it is applicable to what you typed. Anyway, here's the link to the thread I was referring to: http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=17&topic_id=9741&mesg_id=9741&listing_type=search.
In case the link doesn't work, I will copy and paste what he originally wrote is 2004:
based on a few posts i seen (on whether talent determines sucess, or a good album gets its just rewards) it is my conclusion that most of you are not aware that this is indeed a business based on everything but the so called star of the show:
music.
so as a result....i decided to let you guys see my theory on how sucess is determined. i will name some artists and you guys will come up with the equation to how you think they got their sucess. (or lack therof).
i base these equations on my 6 point theory:
1) THE THREAT- does this artist scare the bejesus outta you? are you not too sure if art is imitating life? is theirh music LOUD!!!! are you convinced of the narritives this person tells you? does it depict true ghetto life or a life of ill repute? does this person's intellect scare you in the way that paul mooney way? does this person use GOD and RELIGION as a sheild and not as an engaging figure? has this person been in jail? have they been shot? does hearing this person in your ride/ipod make your walk a little different? this person known as a bitch? does this artist music reflect a depressing mood? feel like slitting your wrists after you hear the music? ever mosh to they shit in concert? afraid to listen to this music in the dark? afraid to meet this artist in the dark? then this person's sucess is based on the THREAT. (20 points)
2) SEXUAL CHOCOLATE- do you have fantasies about this person? does this person make you cream? do you often stop what you are doing the second their image appears on tv? do you travel far and wide to see the appearence of this person? even if you do not like the song they present do you still give them a "pass" if said song is in your system 19 times a day via radio/tv/online? is this person a womanizer? or a slut? is this artist muscle bound? do they have a "fat ass" (in a good way) is this person on your screen saver? did you doodle this person's name in a heart in your school books back in the day? is this person known for a decadent sezual lifestyle? is this person involved in a sex sscadle? do you not show anger if the mute button was on and you could still see the video? if you describe someone in the industry by their physical appearance first before their talent? do you close your eyes and turn your lover into this person? then my friend, this persons sucess is based on their SEX appeal. (20 points)
3) TAKE EM HOME- is this person just too cotdamn pc for their own good? are they smarter than smart? a thinking man's person?is this someone that you can take home to mom and dad? do you let your children listen to this person? is there not one threatening bone in this persons character? is this person the opposite of number "1"? does this person have an apolitical point of view? can you see this person being invited to the white house? could this person seem somewhat ambigous? fellas can this person chill with your lady and you not be threatend? ladies can this heffa chill with your man and you not be threated? (and no i dont mean is this person UGLY) is this person eagar to please? do you think this artist is kinda cute? are they mysterious? does this artist have a rainbow spectrum of fans? black, white, and in between alike? has this "good" person recently fallen from grace from the community of the opposite race that embraced them in the past? do you think they are hiding something from you? this person my friends is the PC CHARACTER. (20 points)
4) BAIT AND HOOK- does this person always come with it when it comes to the old craft of (whatever this means in today's times) songwritting? you find yourself saying "i hate this song" but then find yourself singing that shit over and over and over and over and over and over? has this aritst contributed slang to modern pop culture? do you not know the lyrics to said song but the hook sticks like glue and that is okay with you? does this person get away with crimes of simplicity when it comes to music? do you find it odd that soooooooo many people can "feel" this artist and you don't? can you name every song on their album? do you know all the lyrics? even if they dont have sex appeal do you STILL support this person cause you loooooooooooooooooove the song? is this artist considered a modern day genius when it comes to pop craftsmanship? do your kids love the songs from said artist? (20 points)
5) the ENTERTAINER- does this person DANCE THEY ASS OFF? does this person perform like the inhaled 300,000 gallons of coffee? does this person potray the character of another race that is not their own? is this person real flamboyant? does this person have a loud wardrobe? does this person have an expensive wardrobe? does this person OVERACCESORIZE? and when that word accesory is used....that means items like: diamonds, cars, gold fronts, expensive glasses, wigs, furs, etc? are other human beings used as objects in their videos? does this artist display some sort of spontanious character trait that the average human being cannot duplicate? do you often yell for this artist to display that very "talent" in their show as if it were a novelty and not a craft? do you think about someone's overaccesive lifestyle first before talent? can an accessory on their body put a child through private school and college? does this person always come with different personalities? other alias? do they smile too much? even if not a singer can this artist as an musician display incredible talent on their craft more than the average musician on this same instrument? can't they complete a sentance? do your kids/sibblings "just looooooooooooooooove" this person? does this person always make you laugh? does this person use religion as a crux? does this person use god as a shield? what about other mythic figures?does this person come off ass crazy and deranged? could this person fit in the minstrel period of yesteryear? does this person dabble in other forms of the media like movies? tv? radio? are they a modern coon? this my friend is the verison of THE ENTERTAINER. (20 points)
6)@@@@@- does this person come with a bulletproof sheild of critical acclaim? are they wood in the hood? does this person come with "much hype"? do you find yourself indifferent to said person, but feel like you will be left out in the cold if you do not jump on the critical bandwagon? does this person display awesome amounts of talent? do they have a fan base that is tougher than leather? do you not "get it"? does this person have a hugh following of an audience that is not theirs? does said person make you yawn? do you know the name of the group but not the group members names? is this person unattractive? are they fat? are they older than what the current marketplace allows? do your parents love this person more than you do? is this artist on an independant label? does this artist have more than 5 records? has this artist been dropped by a major label?is this artist the favorite of your favorite artist? does this artist open shows for a bigger audinece but can't garner a single applause unless some "showmanship" is displayed? (see 5) does this perosn invade critics lists? is this artist "non descirpt?" are any of their recordings overs 9 minutes long? this my friends are ARTSY FARTSIES. (20 points)
20-f rating in your book (could have a short career, well loved by a select few) 40-e rating in your book (am i the only one who went to a school with E grades?)(could be a fallen artist, an artist hanging on a string or an underdeveloped artist) 60-d rating in your book (this is an artist that is right on the verge of something big...not quite there. could have more than 5-10 years under their belt. displays talent that has appeal but not quite there yet. or could be very big and a well respected artsy fartsy type) 80-c rating in your book (this person is a well known star. made a significant mark in music career spands somewhat more than twn years) 100-b rating in your book (this person is a cebrity. a celeb is a person in which their life overtakes their talent. but this shouldn't mean that sucess is not well deserved. this artist could very well play and sellout a stadium. controversy is a big factor in this person's sucess) 120- A plus rating in your book (this person is an ICON)
go rate em.
i'll do the jump off.
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