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TheRealBillyOcean
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"The G.O.A.T on Combat Jack"


          

I'm only 30 mins in and it's fascinating. The first hip hop solo superstar.

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Sounds fascinating.
Dec 09th 2014
1
These old dudes gotta stop with the pause ish
Dec 09th 2014
2
Yo, LL got the best laugh
Dec 09th 2014
3
Just listened...nice n/m
Dec 09th 2014
4
so much was left out
Dec 09th 2014
5
RE: so much was left out
Dec 09th 2014
6
What did you want them to do...
Dec 18th 2014
21
Its a regular conversation between black men. Go listen to Rosenberg.
Dec 20th 2014
25
SMH @ GOAT 2 being a super lyrical album . . . . stop it LL
Dec 09th 2014
7
RE: SMH @ GOAT 2 being a super lyrical album . . . . stop it LL
Dec 13th 2014
19
Another dope interview lol @ the LL cackle
Dec 09th 2014
8
It would have been interesting
Dec 11th 2014
11
If LL wanted to experiment why didnt he hook up with unknown artists
Dec 10th 2014
9
I always wonder if dudes like this believe their own bullshit
Dec 10th 2014
10
Do you really listen to LL? He experiments ALL the time.
Dec 13th 2014
14
      Post youtube links
Dec 13th 2014
17
      Good lord. How long have you been into hip-hop?
Dec 13th 2014
18
      RE: Do you really listen to LL? He experiments ALL the time.
Dec 13th 2014
20
           He has released a lot of TERRIBLE music. I just think it's ridiculous
Dec 18th 2014
22
*shudders at the Accidental Racist discussion*
Dec 12th 2014
12
I thought it was a fair discussion and he dealt with it well.
Dec 18th 2014
23
The best CombatJack episode is still the ICE-T interview
Dec 13th 2014
13
RE: The best CombatJack episode is still the ICE-T interview
Dec 13th 2014
15
      RE: The best CombatJack episode is still the ICE-T interview
Dec 13th 2014
16
           He Probably Meant "To The Break Of Dawn"
Dec 20th 2014
24
Great interview. Combat Jack has a good lane
Dec 20th 2014
26

Brew
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1. "Sounds fascinating."
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Maybe someone else will provide a link to it.

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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2. "These old dudes gotta stop with the pause ish"
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The interview is great though. LL's convos are always entertaining

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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3. "Yo, LL got the best laugh"
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Around the 49:45 mark "I don't want to walk in Motown and see Michael Jackson sitting at a desk. The fuck are you talking about?!" He got that villainous laugh lmao!

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4. "Just listened...nice n/m"
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atruhead
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5. "so much was left out"
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Mama Said Knock You Out wasnt covered
Ill Bomb wasnt mentioned

  

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6. "RE: so much was left out"
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Combat Jack be hopping all over the place.

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21. "What did you want them to do..."
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not talk about "Accidental Racist"?!?!?
That was a much more important piece of LL's Discog than...

>Mama Said Knock You Out wasnt covered
>Ill Bomb wasnt mentioned




ok. but nah foreal.
You're right. I was sooo waiting for "Mama Said..." stories, LL vs. Moe D, LL vs Ice T, LL vs Hammer, LL vs Canibus stories.

I mean, the Canibus phone call?!?!?!?!?!

They never even really addressed the fact that LL has really had a lot of "on wax" beef.



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25. "Its a regular conversation between black men. Go listen to Rosenberg."
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Combat Jack's strengths are that the guests converse with
Combat like they do their friends

He's not Rosenberg, pushing them to cover every little
rap detail

LL's done a trillion emails about his career

He does very few when he can act like a regular Queens
nigga

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7. "SMH @ GOAT 2 being a super lyrical album . . . . stop it LL"
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19. "RE: SMH @ GOAT 2 being a super lyrical album . . . . stop it LL"
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…laughable...

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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JAESCOTT777
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8. "Another dope interview lol @ the LL cackle "
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That shit is mad scary

  

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11. "It would have been interesting"
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to see video of those times when LL let that laugh loose. It sounded as if Combat Jack was seriously tripped out when he first did it.

  

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Starks dunked on Bulls
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9. "If LL wanted to experiment why didnt he hook up with unknown artists"
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He clearly was looking for mass appeal based on his subject matter and sound. lmao @ all the lies in this interview

  

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10. "I always wonder if dudes like this believe their own bullshit"
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Or if they're actively thinking "oh I gotta craft up these alternate stories of my existence to impress people"

Some people may have started that way, but I definitely think they can get so lost in the alternate reality that they actually start believing it as the true one

Which do you think it is with LL?

  

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14. "Do you really listen to LL? He experiments ALL the time."
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>He clearly was looking for mass appeal based on his subject
>matter and sound. lmao @ all the lies in this interview
>
>

Like you have no idea what you're talking about here.

  

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17. "Post youtube links"
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>>He clearly was looking for mass appeal based on his subject
>>matter and sound. lmao @ all the lies in this interview
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>Like you have no idea what you're talking about here.

  

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micMajestic
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18. "Good lord. How long have you been into hip-hop?"
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>>>He clearly was looking for mass appeal based on his
>subject
>>>matter and sound. lmao @ all the lies in this interview
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>>Like you have no idea what you're talking about here.

These songs were left field when they came out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEUX-HYRtUA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZlxvn_jWgM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdizL4on-Rc

This is all before 1990. Do you associate experimentation with struggle raps or something? LL rhymes about ladies and enjoying life. Still joints like Phenomenon & Headsprung don't really sound like a lot of other rap songs.

If we are talking more recent material, "Accidental Racist" is experimental. He raps in Italian in the 3rd verse of "The Truth", and that song was for a Kay Slay compilation. Who does that? That wack "Ratchet" song he dropped a few years back is experimental. On the Chris Rock/Quest podcast on Rosenberg Radio they alluded to Cool J having a bunch of weird sessions in the stash that won't ever see the light of day. He has tons of strange sounding songs on his albums that I haven't even mentioned.

  

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20. "RE: Do you really listen to LL? He experiments ALL the time."
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…it's one thing to experiment, but to RELEASE all the straight bullshit music he has, it's just embarrassing, especially by a pioneer….

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22. "He has released a lot of TERRIBLE music. I just think it's ridiculous "
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>…it's one thing to experiment, but to RELEASE all the
>straight bullshit music he has, it's just embarrassing,
>especially by a pioneer….

to act like the dude isn't doing some left field ish half the damn time. Most artists in his position don't take those type of risks. Let's face it, you and I would be perfectly happy with an album full of tracks like "No Airplay", "Ill Bomb" & "I Shot Ya (remix)", with maybe 1 "Luv You Better" & a 1 "Backseat" type joint thrown in as commercial singles. But that's probably too boring for him.

  

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12. "*shudders at the Accidental Racist discussion*"
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LL's legacy is tarnished after that. DON'T GET IT FUCKED UP BECAUSE HE'S STILL LL. However, he knew what he was doing and got dragged for it.

Everything else is forgivable to an extent but HE WENT TOO FAR WITH THAT SONG.

  

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23. "I thought it was a fair discussion and he dealt with it well. "
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Sometimes you get an idea and the shit don't go as well
as you planned

Good intentions are a motherfucka, man

I'm impressed that he owned up to him going about it
wrong
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13. "The best CombatJack episode is still the ICE-T interview"
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It's like two hours long and I remember I parked my car at a McDonalds, got a coffee and sat there engrossed through the whole thing (except when Coco showed up)

I mean I literally got chills listening to him describe the very, exact moment that gangsta rap was born.

  

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15. "RE: The best CombatJack episode is still the ICE-T interview"
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>It's like two hours long and I remember I parked my car at a
>McDonalds, got a coffee and sat there engrossed through the
>whole thing (except when Coco showed up)
>
>I mean I literally got chills listening to him describe the
>very, exact moment that gangsta rap was born.


Why didnt they ask him about the Ice T beef... Jack the Ripper came out of that... one of the hardest dis records ever made....

And that laugh.... yo .... that nigga sounded straight crazy...

The LL laugh > Jadakiss Laugh.

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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16. "RE: The best CombatJack episode is still the ICE-T interview"
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>Why didnt they ask him about the Ice T beef... Jack the Ripper
>came out of that... one of the hardest dis records ever
>made....


I thought that was for Kool Moe Dee

  

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Luke Cage
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24. "He Probably Meant "To The Break Of Dawn" "
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That was going at Mo Dee, Hammer and Ice T

  

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26. "Great interview. Combat Jack has a good lane"
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He gets these dudes to be themselves like I've heard
them on very few interviews

Like that Russell Simmons one? I have NEVER heard Russell
like that...he was on some nigga shit, it was great.

LL was talking career and business, but was on some
nigga shit...it works.

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O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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