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beatnik
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"No Carter V **swipe**"


  

          

I was hoping The Carter V would drop and be his best yet or a throwback, because hating on Wayne was funny for a minute but his run leading up to Carter III was great. And this makes me wonder how Drake gets away with making his albums the way he wants.

http://www.xxlmag.com/news/2014/12/lil-wayne-cash-money-wont-release-carter-v/

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That Pusha tweet killed me.
Dec 04th 2014
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RE: That Pusha tweet killed me.
Dec 04th 2014
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I wonder that too.
Dec 04th 2014
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Wayne is old and no longer profitable
Dec 04th 2014
7
      RE: Wayne is old and no longer profitable
Dec 04th 2014
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      Young Thug is going to have to have hits for like a decade to make profi...
Dec 05th 2014
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      You took that too far
Dec 05th 2014
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yeah, I literally laughed out loud reading that exchange
Dec 04th 2014
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he needs to contact Freddie Foxxx
Dec 04th 2014
4
Didn't Bump already pull Baby's skirt over somebody's money?
Dec 05th 2014
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      Made him apologize at gun point lol
Dec 05th 2014
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      According to Wendy Day, not Freddie Foxx
Dec 05th 2014
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           He has a history of doing shit like that
Dec 06th 2014
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RE: No Carter V **swipe**
Dec 04th 2014
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Pusha T is a damn fool lol
Dec 04th 2014
8
woah...that was unexpected
Dec 05th 2014
10
Wayne had real organic momentum for a few weeks last Summer
Dec 05th 2014
11
song probably didn't register on top 40 like they wanted
Dec 05th 2014
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Wayne's earned the right to put this album out his way.
Dec 05th 2014
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This is about money. Not songs.
Dec 05th 2014
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RE: This is about money. Not songs.
Dec 05th 2014
20
      Which students?
Dec 06th 2014
24
thank God.
Dec 05th 2014
21
We're staying where we're at (c) his manager
Dec 05th 2014
22
now he suing the label, man
Jan 28th 2015
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Madvillain 626
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1. "That Pusha tweet killed me."
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Baby prolly lettin Drake do what he wants because Drake is the cash cow right now. Baby already made stacks off Weezy.

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JFrost1117
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Thu Dec-04-14 03:42 PM

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2. "RE: That Pusha tweet killed me."
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I clicked the link like, "What could Push possibly have to s--HOLY SHIT, HE'S A GENIUS!"

I wonder what the cause of this trouble in paradise. I also wonder if this'll be some shit like "Damn, somebody hacked my Twitter, there is NO BEEF."

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The Wordsmith
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3. "I wonder that too."
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The "I've been hacked" is THEE go to excuse for seemingly all celebrities. They have no qualms about insulting our intelligence with that one.



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7. "Wayne is old and no longer profitable"
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Baby is seeing the signs and going with the young guys who are "in" now

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JFrost1117
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9. "RE: Wayne is old and no longer profitable"
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I don't disagree about Weazel F., but it's still weird (IMO) to read/hear about this happening to the "son"/last person standing the last time Cash Money fell apart. I don't listen to anyone on the label, but it'll be interesting to hear what leaks out about why Busta left, and why Tyga and Wayne's albums aren't dropping.

Hopefully for Young Thug, they can't touch his mixtape or show money, cuz I'm pretty sure this same shit could happen to him.

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18. "Young Thug is going to have to have hits for like a decade to make profi..."
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Unless there's been some follow up to this exposé I missed

http://www.buzzfeed.com/naomizeichner/young-thug-trapped-major-label-deal

He has, what, three contracts with three people all of whom have various holdings of his music?

I didn't re-read the article but I remember it being a serious clusterfuck (I think Migos got caught up in a similar situation with 1017 as well but they're clearly a Quality Control band now).


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14. "You took that too far"
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Wayne could drop an album with no video or single and outsell a new album from Young Thug and Rich Homie Quan combined. Wayne sells records all over the world. You can't be serious. Wayne will be more famous than all the new guys Baby is hanging around with/calling Rich Gang for the five years, easy.

This must suck for Nicki, because she is about to drop a new record and EVERY interviewer will ask a Wayne question, to which she will have to say "no comment" because it's not like she's hopping in this middle of this sh-tstorm.

  

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5. "yeah, I literally laughed out loud reading that exchange"
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4. "he needs to contact Freddie Foxxx"
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Garhart Poppwell
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12. "Didn't Bump already pull Baby's skirt over somebody's money?"
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13. "Made him apologize at gun point lol"
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15. "According to Wendy Day, not Freddie Foxx"
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Fri Dec-05-14 02:24 PM by spirit

  

          

Not sure if it went down how she described (kneeling, crying, etc) because I'm sure Baby has had a gun in his face before.

Could see Foxx pulling a pistol out on Baby, but I don't think he ever paid her, pistol or not.

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Garhart Poppwell
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23. "He has a history of doing shit like that"
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and I've heard that story before, just couldn't remember the details.

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6. "RE: No Carter V **swipe**"
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pusha t is stupid. that shit was funny

  

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8. "Pusha T is a damn fool lol"
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But the Drake as a cow theory doesn't entirely work because his music is emo as fuck. You can say they leave him alone because the fans like it and it works, but all Drake criticism aside, it seems like if they tell him to make a single he makes HIS single, those tracks usually stand out from his moody ass themes but never too much imo. Carter 3&4? I say those albums were all over the place. "How to love" from Wayne sounds more forced than "hold on we're going home" from Drake.

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10. "woah...that was unexpected"
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11. "Wayne had real organic momentum for a few weeks last Summer"
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And these guys missed the boat. "Believe Me" is a huge song, and then Wayne and Drake went on tour...aaand there's still no project. I have no idea what that's about.

  

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16. "song probably didn't register on top 40 like they wanted"
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being huge on urban radio isn't enough for the sales universal probably expects from wayne. if he doesn't have a crossover hit, i could see them wanting to sit on their hands till he finds one. sadly, wayne will probably have to put out some song singing again to get a release date. smh.

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17. "Wayne's earned the right to put this album out his way."
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Shit he IS the reason there is a Cash Money today. That label lasted because of him and him alone. Baby wouldn't even be in that Forbes Top 5 w/o Wayne's albums and the money he gets because of Young Money. Not to mention, Wayne's basically spent his daughter's whole life touring and recording.

I understand that ultimately they (Baby/Slim) want Carter V to match Carter III in terms or crossover appeal and sales but they should let Wayne have this one his way....especially if it's his last album. Waiting for Wayne to drop the second coming of Lollipop isn't fair to Wayne at this point.

  

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19. "This is about money. Not songs."
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They put out Rebirth. They'll put out anything with his name on it.

  

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20. "RE: This is about money. Not songs."
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He had a lot more good will in the industry before rebirth...

He doesn't have that now. The student/s have surpassed the teacher.

But they should just wait for shit to cool down and drop it out of nowhere. He's at a point in his career where he doesn't need much promo. Just put the record out.

By putting out lukewarm singles people see the kinks in your armor. By pulling a Beyonce you can win off name alone

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24. "Which students?"
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"The student/s have surpassed the teacher."

Is that a Drake reference? That's the only "student" of Wayne's I see surpassing him, even though I see Drake as a graduate of the University of Kanye West, despite his label affiliation.

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21. "thank God."
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the faster this guy disappears, the better.

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22. "We're staying where we're at (c) his manager"
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https://www.thefader.com/2014/12/05/lil-waynes-manager-claims-that-hes-not-leaving-cash-money

Yesterday, Lil Wayne went off on Twitter and claimed in a series of tweets that he was finished with the Cash Money label—but his manager is telling a different story. TMZ caught up with Wayne's manager Cortez Bryant last night, who claimed that both Wayne and Tyga have no bad blood with the label. When TMZ's photog asked Bryant if he and Wayne were looking at other labels, he said, "We stayin' where we at." Is he telling the truth? Who knows!

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25. "now he suing the label, man"
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http://pitchfork.com/news/58255-lil-wayne-sues-birdman-and-cash-money-for-51-million-freedom-from-label/

I know it's not strictly music convo, but I don't see a bright future for Young/Cash money

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