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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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"Dare Iz A Darkside Turns 20 Today"


  

          

I know it's kinda split here as far as who digs this album and who
doesn't but this remains my favorite album by Reggie. Now we know
why he doesn't revisit this album because it was some dark times for
the brotha and you can tell from the lyrics he was on some heavy shit
but damn, he did his muthafunkin thing on this LP. Not only did he
handle the bulk of production duties for the only time in his career
but this has to be one of the best sequenced albums ever! I'm talking
across all genres. I was the only dude in my circle riding for this
album. Everybody else wanted Whut? Thee pt II. Glad Reggie took it in
another direction. Share your likes or dislikes about this album.
Post favorite songs or lyrics if you want.

Favorite song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9L9POcjjmw

A Close second https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WblCAxkdv58

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Can't Wait...that's the clear favorite to me
Nov 22nd 2014
1
Underrated GENIUS of an album
Nov 22nd 2014
2
RE: Dare Iz A Darkside Turns 20 Today
Nov 22nd 2014
3
one of my top 10 rap albums of all-time.
Nov 22nd 2014
4
RE: one of my top 10 rap albums of all-time.
Nov 24th 2014
26
One of the best albums, any genre, ever made.
Nov 22nd 2014
5
RE: Dare Iz A Darkside Turns 20 Today
Nov 22nd 2014
6
Remarkable album
Nov 22nd 2014
7
Cosmic Slop was my joint too
Nov 22nd 2014
8
Top notch track as well.
Nov 24th 2014
21
We all know Red was on some heavy sh*t when he found this sample (link)
Nov 22nd 2014
9
Knew what that was going to be before clicking.
Nov 22nd 2014
10
Just made me appreciate
Nov 24th 2014
22
How many flows did Redman freak on Green Island? Fuck what an amazing so...
Nov 22nd 2014
11
RE: How many flows did Redman freak on Green Island? Fuck what an amazin...
Nov 23rd 2014
14
The Uncle Quilly part really cracks me up
Nov 24th 2014
19
      I'll have to go back and listen tonight when I get home
Nov 24th 2014
23
           RE: I'll have to go back and listen tonight when I get home
Nov 24th 2014
24
one of the first CDs I ever bought
Nov 23rd 2014
12
jakob in 3.. 2.... hehe.
Nov 23rd 2014
13
Whut Thee?
Nov 24th 2014
25
      RE: Whut Thee?
Nov 25th 2014
28
I got the red cassette version. Nice album.
Nov 23rd 2014
15
I'm More of a Muddy Waters Fan
Nov 23rd 2014
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Whenever I think of Muddy Waters
Nov 24th 2014
20
      Why do you despise Pick It Up?
Nov 24th 2014
27
      The beat.
Nov 25th 2014
32
      is that the 'You switched ya style up....
Nov 25th 2014
31
Noorotic was my cut
Nov 24th 2014
17
RE: Noorotic was my cut
Nov 24th 2014
18
      LMAO!
Nov 25th 2014
29
from start to finish
Nov 25th 2014
30
Benchmark hip hop.....
Dec 03rd 2014
33
Erick Sermon = Da God.
Dec 04th 2014
34
I was talking with my boy...
Dec 04th 2014
36
This album is a 5 star effort when sedated......
Dec 04th 2014
35
I think only weirdos like myself truly appreciate the dopeness
Dec 04th 2014
37

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1. "Can't Wait...that's the clear favorite to me"
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http://youtu.be/SWDazyPyjts

This and Funkorama are my favorite Red joints ever.

Dope album, loved it from the start. Funny how Red and Meth were related to a certain degree for me due to the timing of me copping Dare and Tical before they ever recorded together.

  

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2. "Underrated GENIUS of an album"
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Particularly around that time with the producers/means/vibe, it wasn't hard to do straight ahead boom bap (aka Muddy Waters).

But the unhinged imagination in this album? It was on some Sgt. Pepper Shit. It's what happens when someone is at the top of their powers and just gets full reign to do what the fuck they want to do and it shows.

Everything from the little surf rock sample in the beginning of green island, to many WTF moments in "Tonights The Night Remix"...it's just a great creative and COHESIVE album like you pointed out.

One of my favs, and imho top 20 of the 90's.

  

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3. "RE: Dare Iz A Darkside Turns 20 Today"
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I remember I got a gift card and went out and got Dare is a Darkside and Tical when they came out, Month of the Man thing from Def Jam. Man….that shit got me sold on "real lyrical hip hop" for at least a decade.

"Green Island" is incredible how his voice and lyrics just bounce all over the place.

  

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4. "one of my top 10 rap albums of all-time."
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definitely the best Redman album too (still not sure how people choose Muddy Waters over this).

  

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26. "RE: one of my top 10 rap albums of all-time."
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greatness, but "Whut" is still his best imo....

Integrity is the Cornerstone of Artistry...

  

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5. "One of the best albums, any genre, ever made. "
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Beautiful

  

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6. "RE: Dare Iz A Darkside Turns 20 Today"
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my favorite redman album. he was really in the zone on this album.

i feel like slick rick's album also came that day, or maybe I'm getting my years mixed up, but i remember them pushing this album along with tical for month of the man.

"If you stay ready, you ain't got to get ready." -Suga Free

  

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7. "Remarkable album"
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Got it around the same time as Tical.
Liked it 10X more.

  

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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8. "Cosmic Slop was my joint too"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pltkl9cGvHI

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21. "Top notch track as well."
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Superb baseline and that first verse is insane.

  

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9. "We all know Red was on some heavy sh*t when he found this sample (link)"
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http://youtu.be/Eze8uSW15vw?t=1m5s

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10. "Knew what that was going to be before clicking."
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That's the building block for my favorite track on the album.

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22. "Just made me appreciate"
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that track and album more, given that Redman himself dug that sample out to create such a beastly track. It's a shame he doesn't like to revisit that album.

  

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11. "How many flows did Redman freak on Green Island? Fuck what an amazing so..."
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Like others have already said, what a lovely, cohesive, dark, dank sounding album. Remarkable Def Jam gave Redman the freedom to produce the majority of the album himself. Has Redman ever done a feature or interview breaking down what went into making this album? Like something similar to what XXL used to do for other 'classic' rap albums.

  

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14. "RE: How many flows did Redman freak on Green Island? Fuck what an amazin..."
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>Like others have already said, what a lovely, cohesive, dark,
>dank sounding album. Remarkable Def Jam gave Redman the
>freedom to produce the majority of the album himself. Has
>Redman ever done a feature or interview breaking down what
>went into making this album? Like something similar to what
>XXL used to do for other 'classic' rap albums.

Red doesn't like that album. I don't doubt that he was on some
shit during the making of that album but I still feel like he let
some of the negative feedback from fans make him distance
himself from that album. Kinda like De La with Buhloone Mindstate
and Common with Electric Circus. Here are some quotes

Another element of Redman's future is his sequel to beloved 1996
album, Muddy Waters. HipHopDX asked Redman why that album, as
his first three albums: Whut? Thee Album, Dare Iz A Darkside and
Muddy Waters are often debated among fans as their favorite.
"Because Muddy Waters was one of my pivotal albums, in branching
from that darkness of Dare Iz A Darkside," explained a candid Red.
"I was doing a lot of drugs on Dare Iz A Darkside. I have chicks
that come up to me and say, 'Yo, Dare Iz A Darkside is my favorite
fuckin' album, ever.' I swear, I have not played Dare Iz A Darkside
damn near since I did it. Seriously! I was so lost, I was so fucked
up during that album."

Link to article: http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.13301/title.redman-revisits-dare-iz-a-darkside-and-talks-gilla-house-saukrates

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19. "The Uncle Quilly part really cracks me up"
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that might be one of my favorite Redman "characters"

  

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23. "I'll have to go back and listen tonight when I get home"
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but did he rap as three characters on that song? First verse was bugged out multi-flowed Redman, second verse was the more pedestrian and tame Reggie Noble, and the third was Uncle Quilly.

  

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24. "RE: I'll have to go back and listen tonight when I get home"
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>but did he rap as three characters on that song? First verse
>was bugged out multi-flowed Redman, second verse was the more
>pedestrian and tame Reggie Noble, and the third was Uncle
>Quilly.

First verse kinda sounds like he's going back n forth with himself
on some Redman meets Reggie Noble type shit.

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12. "one of the first CDs I ever bought"
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With the red case

To me it's Redman's best, followed by muddy waters

  

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13. "jakob in 3.. 2.... hehe."
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he has expressed his love for this album numerous times.

as a fan of reds first album i bought dare is a darkside when it came out. the cd with the red jewel case. it was very different from the first one. loved it. i used to put it on at home while we cleaned the apartment. my mom listening to redman. lol

  

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25. "Whut Thee?"
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>i used to put it on at
>home while we cleaned the apartment. my mom listening to
>redman. lol

She was listening to it because you had it on, or she was listening to it dolo?

4 Better or 4 Worse

  

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28. "RE: Whut Thee?"
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>>i used to put it on at
>>home while we cleaned the apartment. my mom listening to
>>redman. lol
>
>She was listening to it because you had it on, or she was
>listening to it dolo?
>
>4 Better or 4 Worse

no, i used to put it on while we cleaned the apartment together.
i had to fast forward when red is getting a bj tho. lol

  

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15. "I got the red cassette version. Nice album."
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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16. "I'm More of a Muddy Waters Fan"
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But I was banging this album HARD when I copped it...complete with the red case

Only thing I was pissed about was that Rockafella remix wasn't on it (later found it at an Awlik store...B-side cassette)

  

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20. "Whenever I think of Muddy Waters"
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I think of how I hate and despise Pick It Up. I don't want to derail the this thread too much, but thought I should throw it out there.

  

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27. "Why do you despise Pick It Up?"
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32. "The beat."
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It's too upbeat and cheery for me. Silly reason on paper and the lyrics are decent enough, but I can't get behind that beat.

  

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31. "is that the 'You switched ya style up...."
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...shut the fuck up, ya still a dick ridaaaaaaaaah" song

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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17. "Noorotic was my cut"
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18. "RE: Noorotic was my cut"
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Now just for that I let your girl suck my dick from the back
And let your moms give me cornrows on my crack
Cause I'm nasty like that

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29. "LMAO!"
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30. "from start to finish"
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that was a dope-ass concept album. they dont make em like that anymore.

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33. "Benchmark hip hop....."
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34. "Erick Sermon = Da God."
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I wanna go to where the martyrs went
the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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36. "I was talking with my boy..."
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and we got to dicussing that, seriously, Erick Sermon could stake a claim to the GOAT producer. Helmed multiple classic LPs across multiple decades and had hits even later on in his career.

now, i'm not saying he * IS * because i have other favorites, but he could make a fair claim.

  

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35. "This album is a 5 star effort when sedated......"
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this is the go-to album when I am fucked up...........just like "Return to the 36 chambers:The Dirty Version".......for some reason these two records sound like "Illmatic" when I'm loaded.....lol

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37. "I think only weirdos like myself truly appreciate the dopeness"
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of this album...

weirds and druggies...lol


I Grew Up On Booty Shake...We Did Not Know No Betta Thangs...

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