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Laz aka Black Native
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"Black Confederate -New single from upcoming release, Furious Styles"


  

          

So, got a new release coming owt soon entitled Furious Styles, here's a sample of the cover art & what it's influenced by:https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10100099515402904&l=0998c82b58

My first single off the release is entitled "Black Confederate". Gone head & listen & comment & such. *bankhead bounces*

https://blacknative.bandcamp.com/track/black-confederate

Furious Styles: https://blacknative.bandcamp.com/album/furious-styles

Black Confederate on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black-confederate-single/id940282326

Video to Black Confederate: http://youtu.be/jbpAQ4qzkqY

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In case the FB laink ain't working
Nov 01st 2014
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you niggers and that flag
Nov 01st 2014
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you obviously aint listen to the song or read very well
Nov 01st 2014
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I'm sayin. That was addressed in the song...
Nov 06th 2014
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      every time one of these dumb niggas
Nov 06th 2014
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           You're speaking truth. I can't argue, because I agree.
Nov 06th 2014
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                my only issue is dude coming into the shit calling folks names etc
Nov 07th 2014
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                     RE: my only issue is dude coming into the shit calling folks names etc
Nov 07th 2014
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                     You know how many people's last word they heard was nigger
Nov 08th 2014
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                     I feel you on that.
Nov 07th 2014
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How many countries/states still fly a Nazi flag?
Nov 01st 2014
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don't be a weirdo.
Nov 01st 2014
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      IMO u being one
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           Damn...
Nov 06th 2014
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For folk who are tawnbout the origin of words & shit
Nov 07th 2014
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RE: For folk who are tawnbout the origin of words & shit
Nov 07th 2014
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How can you tell me what I can and can't do?
Nov 08th 2014
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      lol
Nov 08th 2014
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Well, tbh, history and present have both proven this wrong...
Nov 08th 2014
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      The last verse is about progessing in the region where im from
Nov 08th 2014
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Laz aka Black Native
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1. "In case the FB laink ain't working"
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http://i60.tinypic.com/2s9zp60.jpg

Furious Styles: https://blacknative.bandcamp.com/album/furious-styles

Black Confederate on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black-confederate-single/id940282326

Video to Black Confederate: http://youtu.be/jbpAQ4qzkqY

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howardlloyd
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Sat Nov-01-14 06:33 PM

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2. "you niggers and that flag"
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I bet I'll never see a jewish artist make an album called jewish nazi

smfh

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Laz aka Black Native
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3. "you obviously aint listen to the song or read very well"
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the album aint called that, it's Furious Styles. I also referenced the Swastika & it's origins but again, it's obvious you know nothing of the content before commenting

Furious Styles: https://blacknative.bandcamp.com/album/furious-styles

Black Confederate on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black-confederate-single/id940282326

Video to Black Confederate: http://youtu.be/jbpAQ4qzkqY

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Boogie Stimuli
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Thu Nov-06-14 01:25 PM

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7. "I'm sayin. That was addressed in the song..."
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Thu Nov-06-14 01:26 PM by Boogie Stimuli

          

not saying I agree with either side, but at least make an informed comment.

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howardlloyd
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Thu Nov-06-14 03:39 PM

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9. "every time one of these dumb niggas "
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Thu Nov-06-14 03:40 PM by howardlloyd

  

          

use the symbol they say the same thing

3000 said the same thing 10 years ago! and i dissed him for it
http://www.bet.com/music/photos/2013/10/confederate-flag-in-hip-hop/_jcr_content/leftcol/flipbook/flipbookimage_4.flipfeature.dimg/102213-music-confederate-flag-andre-3000-ms-jackson.jpg

and every few years somebody brings it back
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.streetlevel.com/media/2009/10/liljon.jpg

http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/Entertainment/0/0/kanye%20west%20confederate%20flag%20x17.jpg

i could keep going...but you niggers aint doing nothing new

why niggers can't make they own flag? you always gotta start with white ppl shit and subvert it?

stupid ass greeks say the same thing about greek letters (it comes from phonetics.... but they dont use the black shit...they use the greek shit lol)

willie lynch like a muh fucker. he said these niggers will enslave themselves for 300 years

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Boogie Stimuli
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10. "You're speaking truth. I can't argue, because I agree."
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I just wanted you to address what he said in the song.

>stupid ass greeks say the same thing about greek
>letters (it comes from phonetics.... but they dont use the
>black shit...they use the greek shit lol)


Yeah, that's real. Straight from the Black Egyptians, but you'd never know.


>willie lynch like a muh fucker. he said these niggers will
>enslave themselves for 300 years


And we see it happening... or rather, see that it has happened.

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SHAstayhighalways
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13. "my only issue is dude coming into the shit calling folks names etc"
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and he hadn't even listened to the song. even if he disagrees with the sentiment does he really need to be in here calling folks niggers etc?
like i won't even address dude behind that at this point.

for the record i'm not particularly fond of the whole concept either but
as an artist i think laz did a good job articulating his reasoning behind it and the song sounds good.

www.royallegacy.org

For Real (Official Video):
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howardlloyd
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Fri Nov-07-14 05:23 PM

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14. "RE: my only issue is dude coming into the shit calling folks names etc"
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if you don't understand why a black man who calls himself a black confederate and reps the confederate flag is a nigger i don't know what to tell you

you know how many black men willingly died fighting against that flag?

how offensive it is for somebody to even have that shit up?

but calling him a nigger is offensive? smfh

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Laz aka Black Native
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Sat Nov-08-14 09:42 AM

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17. "You know how many people's last word they heard was nigger"
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before they died and you're using it making you one too in your reasoning?

Furious Styles: https://blacknative.bandcamp.com/album/furious-styles

Black Confederate on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black-confederate-single/id940282326

Video to Black Confederate: http://youtu.be/jbpAQ4qzkqY

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Boogie Stimuli
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Fri Nov-07-14 06:31 PM

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15. "I feel you on that."
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I ain't really wanna go in, because Laz is an artist, and I know what it's like to share
your art. It's a vulnerable action, and negative criticism can be a bit disheartening.

At the same time, I get howard's reasoning for approaching the way he did and truly
understand his upset at the use of the flag at all.

So I'm torn. Ultimately I think somebody needs to say what howard's saying. As much
as I go in on people on this site, I couldn't do it.

I do have a heart sometimes. lol

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bentagain
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4. "How many countries/states still fly a Nazi flag?"
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If you can't understand it without an explanation

you can't understand it with an explanation

  

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SHAstayhighalways
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5. "don't be a weirdo."
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www.royallegacy.org

For Real (Official Video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBRoCPO8esE

  

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howardlloyd
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6. "IMO u being one"
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if a confederate was somebody who fought a war to keep blacks enslaved... what the fuck is a black confederate?

lol in 2014 its rappers

actually makes plenty of sense

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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Boogie Stimuli
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8. "Damn..."
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Thu Nov-06-14 02:34 PM by Boogie Stimuli

          

>if a confederate was somebody who fought a war to keep blacks
>enslaved... what the fuck is a black confederate?
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>lol in 2014 its rappers
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>actually makes plenty of sense


This is actually very true of alotta rappers. A LOT.
I think homie is TRYING to do something positive but ultimately pushing a message
that I often rail against as destructive to Black folks, so ... there's that.
Beat was nice, and I think he can rap.
I could never cosign what he's talking about tho.


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Laz aka Black Native
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Fri Nov-07-14 11:28 AM

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11. "For folk who are tawnbout the origin of words & shit "
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You would know that the definition of Confederate has shit to do w/slavery or keeping blacks in slavery. It actually means an alliance of of people. Now, I CHOSE the symbol because it IS the symbol of the south, point blank period. Just like I mentioned in the second verse, throughout history, symbols have been changed to mean other things. So NO, what I'm saying ain't nowhere NEAR saying I'm a black man who is down for keeping others in slavery, FOH w/that reaching ass bullshit! Listening comprehension goes a LONG ass way folk! You can not like the song but don't make bullshit ass reasoning to go along w/it

Furious Styles: https://blacknative.bandcamp.com/album/furious-styles

Black Confederate on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black-confederate-single/id940282326

Video to Black Confederate: http://youtu.be/jbpAQ4qzkqY

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howardlloyd
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12. "RE: For folk who are tawnbout the origin of words & shit "
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Fri Nov-07-14 04:33 PM by howardlloyd

  

          

>You would know that the definition of Confederate has shit to
>do w/slavery or keeping blacks in slavery. It actually means
>an alliance of of people. Now, I CHOSE the symbol because it
>IS the symbol of the south, point blank period. Just like I
>mentioned in the second verse, throughout history, symbols
>have been changed to mean other things. So NO, what I'm saying
>ain't nowhere NEAR saying I'm a black man who is down for
>keeping others in slavery, FOH w/that reaching ass bullshit!
>Listening comprehension goes a LONG ass way folk! You can not
>like the song but don't make bullshit ass reasoning to go
>along w/it

man...lol. you should read more.

i know what confederate means as a word. i'm a U.S. history teacher.

yes it means that... but when you put it with the flag it has a historical connotation

and yes people change symbols all the time but unfortunately YOU dont have the POWER to change that one

"I chose the symbol because it is the symbol of the south"

^^^^^says who? your slave master thats who!

smfh... they shoulda never gave you niggas the internets

its a stupid ass symbol. its offensive. any black person that wears it or broadcasts it is an asshole who needs to be checked - i'm sorry

jewish people own a lot of media bro... movie studios, print mags and newspapers, websites and TV stations and publishing companies etc etc

they could choose to REIMAGINE the swastika...but they dont BECAUSE IT WOULD BE FUCKING STUPID. instead they lock cats up for drawing that shit...suspend kids outta school for having it on their book lol. thats why jews are where they are and blacks are where they are. cuz we love our oppressor so much we can't help but to see ourselves through his eyes. dubois called it double consciousness...

why you think white people fought so hard to keep that the fucking state flag in south carolina and georgia and mississippi. smfh. you think white southerners dont know what it means???

you basically said the symbol of the south is something that represents you as less than a man....

maybe you should read the "confederate constitution" and see the BS you propagating

http://civilwartalk.com/threads/what-the-confederate-states-constitution-says-about-slavery.72233/

you could used a black panther flag or the red black and green...but that would be too real

so you gotta fall back on stupid nigga shit

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Laz aka Black Native
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18. "How can you tell me what I can and can't do? "
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You don't know what could be reframed in the minds folk when you take away properties & add a message & reasoning behind it. Like using nigger/nigga. The Lesbians use an upside black triangle as a symbol, same shit the Nazis used during the Holocaust. Also, miss me w/this "I love my oppressor" bullshit because you don't know shit about me. Black Panther, RBG has been done & again, the Saint Andrews Cross is just not no South shit, it's used all over the world but as a Southerer the Saint Andrews is on damn near every flag & I used it as an identifier. You mentioned Andre 3000 & Lil Jon using it, I know it ain't nothing new but neither is your wack ass ABC song concept that's been done. I can accept you saying you feel it's misguided & try to see what mindset I was in when I thought of it & build from there, instead you wanna call names & talk shit.

Furious Styles: https://blacknative.bandcamp.com/album/furious-styles

Black Confederate on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black-confederate-single/id940282326

Video to Black Confederate: http://youtu.be/jbpAQ4qzkqY

PSN: WakandanKing
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20. "lol"
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Sat Nov-08-14 12:00 PM by howardlloyd

  

          

ok man....

my abc song is weak but its over 15 years old (thats probably why its been done)

and i still been paid more times than you for this shit... and rap better and make better beats

thats neither here nor there... i do music for the love. i'm a teacher!

you need one

if artists who sold millions of albums (3000/lil jon) couldn't change the symbol you can't either...

why dont you put your confederate flag on a shirt and then go to a family reunion in the south with it on...

see how the elders light into that ass. i know my grand pops would whip ya ass for some dumb shit like that

matter of fact... go research WHEN the confederate symbol was put on the various state flags...

it be during the civil rights movement and when the push for segregation was beginning or the end of reconstruction...

every time they wanted to put fear in....

but you just some uniformed ass trying to take a shortcut to coverage with some "controversial"BS. talking bout redeeming the south lol. you sound just like jefferson davis!

if you came onto a forum that had a huge jewish population and you called yourself jewish nazi and had the swastika up - you know how you would be roasted???

its only a black persons self hate that can even begin to support your artistic interpretation

smfh

i'm done here... have fun

make sure you eat some hog maws and chitlins while you at it buck

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Boogie Stimuli
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16. "Well, tbh, history and present have both proven this wrong..."
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>So NO, what I'm saying ain't nowhere NEAR saying I'm a black man who is down for
>keeping others in slavery


I, personally, was referring to the last verse and the multicultural angle where you go
into how white women got big booties now and rednecks bump Pac in their trucks.
It's all basically to say we're one and the same or that we live together in harmony and
so forth. This is not the case, as we still exist within a system to racism against us.
It's important that we view that system as an enemy and see it for what it is, yet one
of our greatest enemies is the belief that the system is not against us. That's when
they're able to kill us without protest from us, or experiment on people of African descent
around the globe without us even being concerned. We're the only race who seems
to just refuse to look out for our own. It's gone too far at this point. That was where
I was coming from, mainly.
I'm not chastising you. I'm just disagreeing. I was on that "all loving negro" campaign
myself for a spell. I just finally realized how detrimental it is to us as a people.
Other races will support it tho, because ultimately, it only causes YOU to have to bend
to appeal to THEM. *The whole "we are one" movement only benefits white supremacy.*



>You can not like the song but don't make bullshit ass reasoning to go
>along w/it


I actually like the song, musically.






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Laz aka Black Native
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19. "The last verse is about progessing in the region where im from"
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how far we still have to go, especially in my state. Hell, I said "I don't subscribe to false naivete/acting like it's all good, I know where I stay". I put that part about the rednecks bumping Pac because I used to work at a car wash & have to prep these cars w/rebel flags & I used to ask these folk while vacuuming, "Hey, what does that flag mean to you?" They would say, "honestly, my folks had it up at the crib & I get the historical concept but truly....shit. I mean, it's just a symbol of the south but fuck all the racist, slavery shit behind it." I've heard that variation of an answer a plethora of times, as well as older guy who's answer was pointing at the American flag, which I see as no different historically as far as representing fucked up actions done by a population but I digress, and said "same as that one." For the folk that are now grown in the south, like the 70s babies, 80s, etc.,that flag has lost its significance. Again, I'm not no Uncle Remus ass dude, in fact, this is the 1st I've ever been on some inclusive shit w/whites. I'm saying this is a mindset of a progressive south that keeps its southern values but getting out of that old shit too. I'm just tryna spark somn positive starting with/the folk where I'm from. I know these crackers don't want us getting along, don't want us progressing but they can't stop Joleen & Jasper from listening to Hip-Hop & if Joleen & Jasper are heirs to who will run the state & get influenced from some shit from their own backyard of Alabama & the state FINALLY gets Lotto for school funds & other shit, then so be it.

Furious Styles: https://blacknative.bandcamp.com/album/furious-styles

Black Confederate on iTunes:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/black-confederate-single/id940282326

Video to Black Confederate: http://youtu.be/jbpAQ4qzkqY

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