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Starks dunked on Bulls
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"Any recent examples of a rapper becoming better with age?"
Tue Oct-07-14 01:51 PM by Starks dunked on Bul

  

          

I see posts like this all the time on okp:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12605556&mesg_id=12605556&page=#12605753

But I can't think of any of examples of this occurring.

  

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Doom...
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Recent Examples though
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      gotcha...
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      good grief.
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           LOL, naw, I'm not bashing Joey.
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Black Thought
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Lil Wayne.
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just listened to the everything remix...I agree
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nowhere to go but up-thank his writers and a push from BabyDaddy
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      lulz
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RE: Any recent examples of a rapper becoming better with age?
Oct 07th 2014
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Posdonous, Killer Mike, Royce, Crooked I
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great chocies
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A few
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Joell Ortiz should get a nod too n/m
Oct 07th 2014
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Masta Ace, Sean Price, Roc Marciano...
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those were the exact same 3 that popped in my head too.
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Sean Price and Roc Marciano??????
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      #7
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           and how
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sheek louch.
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I feel like Styles P as well
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Cormega
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jean grae.
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ghost
Oct 07th 2014
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Dave (plug 2)
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This was my choice
Oct 07th 2014
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el-p
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Scarface
Oct 08th 2014
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Wise Intelligent...
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^^^^^^^
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raekwon, fat joe, kendrick, currensy, game
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an actual recent example: Black Milk
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Big Boi
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Big Boi
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1. "Doom..."
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Tue Oct-07-14 01:55 PM by spidey

  

          

...comes to mind, yeah "Peach Fuzz" was cool and all that, but duke took it to another level when he came back...Pharoahe seems to have gotten better too from the early days of Organized...

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Starks dunked on Bulls
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4. "Recent Examples though"
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>...comes to mind, yeah "Peach Fuzz" was cool and all that,
>but duke took it to another level when he came back...Pharoahe
>seems to have gotten better too from the early days of
>Organized...

Yall naming artists from the 90s.

Did Joey Bada$$ get better with age?

  

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6. "gotcha..."
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I just don't think there has been enough time to make comparisons, duke is still a youngin...let's see what happens...personally brother is just ok to me....

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dula dos pistolas
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12. "good grief."
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>Did Joey Bada$$ get better with age?

you serious, bruh?

dude's only been around for like 2 years. he hasn't even dropped a real album yet.

the internet era, man...

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Starks dunked on Bulls
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13. "LOL, naw, I'm not bashing Joey."
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>>Did Joey Bada$$ get better with age?
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>you serious, bruh?
>
>dude's only been around for like 2 years. he hasn't even
>dropped a real album yet.
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>the internet era, man...

I'm just using Joey as an example as someone who is recent.

  

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2. "Black Thought"
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I guess it all depends on when we first hear the MC.

I'm sure Black Thought is a better rapper now than when he was 16.

However we didn't really hear him when he was 16.

He was definitely better on Illadelph than DYWM and Organix so he got better with age.

But one could argue as dope as he is now he was better on Illadelph.

Like I said, all depends on perspective.

  

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3. "Lil Wayne."
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Tue Oct-07-14 02:07 PM by BigReg

  

          

Obviously he's been sucking in his lean and skateboarding years.

But the leaps from his Hot Boys years to Carter III is undeniable.

  

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5. "just listened to the everything remix...I agree"
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23. "nowhere to go but up-thank his writers and a push from BabyDaddy"
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28. "lulz"
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>a push from BabyDaddy

http://youtu.be/zLHtxRzu6KQ

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7. "RE: Any recent examples of a rapper becoming better with age?"
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Most....

That doesn't mean that they can't arc downward after a point.

But if you listen to K Dot pre overly Dedicated and then GKMC or Drake on Comeback Season vs So Far Gone and beyond...

Wayne is another clear example

I feel like e-40 while past his popularity prime continues to impress when he jumps on tunes these days..

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8. "Posdonous, Killer Mike, Royce, Crooked I"
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10. "great chocies"
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9. "A few"
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Danny Brown (at least to me. He's clearly changed from his Hot Soup days but he's got ability to weave those various styles of his)

E-40 as Double O mentioned is a really good choice. Forty Water is entertaining as hell in his early 40s and I hope he never stops.

Sadat X (to me, I think Dotty X makes the most of his moments and he's got one of the most original rap styles on the planet).

Nas. I think Nas is just as gifted a writer as we'll ever see.

Eminem. While I don't enjoy his music, some of his recent freestyles and one-offs show that he has bars infinite and he's got no reason to try hard anymore considering his fame.

Rockness Monstah...I'm shocked to say that he's bolted past Sean Price as my favorite Brooklyn oldhead.

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11. "Joell Ortiz should get a nod too n/m"
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14. "Masta Ace, Sean Price, Roc Marciano..."
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15. "those were the exact same 3 that popped in my head too."
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he did say recent tho, so i figured they didn't count.

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16. "Sean Price and Roc Marciano??????"
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>

Price best material was in the 90s.

I'm not gonna touch on Marciano, that's a whole another post.

  

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18. "#7"
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>Price best material was in the 90s.

"Most (rappers become better with age)

That doesn't mean that they can't arc downward after a point."

price definitely improved from the heltah skeltah days to his early solo career. he's declined since tho.

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26. "and how"
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>price definitely improved from the heltah skeltah days to his
>early solo career. he's declined since tho.

Sean Price was at one point my favorite rapper. Drugs, smoking, age, I dunno what the fuck, he's lost it.

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17. "sheek louch."
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as far as 'recent' rappers idk i'm having a brain fart can't think

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19. "I feel like Styles P as well"
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I never really started thinking he was anything really special until his two solo albums in late 2012/early 2013. But I admit I never checked for his solo material before that.

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Esteemed author of the celebrated, double-platinum post: "Drake - Wu-Tang Forever".

  

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29. "Scarface"
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He's better than ever now, even in 2014. 'Face keeps getting better with this rap shit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1PI-xMOzrk from a couple years ago w/ Nas (Khaled)



>I see posts like this all the time on okp:
>
>http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=12605556&mesg_id=12605556&page=#12605753
>
>But I can't think of any of examples of this occurring.

Twitter.com/djRBI
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30. "Wise Intelligent..."
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If not better, he has at least def. not missed a step...
http://youtu.be/Sw5tIHMhmLs


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32. "raekwon, fat joe, kendrick, currensy, game"
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33. "an actual recent example: Black Milk"
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He's light years better than when I first heard him on Popular Demand. I'm looking forward to his new album more than anything else this year.

Another somewhat recent one...I was a little disappointed in his album, but Chuck Inglish is a way better rapper now than he was when the Cool Kids first came out. Don't know that I can say the same for Sir Michael Rocks.

edit-
a couple more rapper/producers that came to mind when I realized what those two had in common: Oddisee and Big KRIT

  

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34. "Big Boi"
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His flow was always cool, but in terms of what he's actually saying in his raps he wasn't great on those early 'Kast records. I think his writing has gotten much much better in recent years. I would argue his writing on his last LP was some of his best of his career.


And I think Black Thought is another guy who keeps getting better and better with every release. undun is some of the best emceeing I've ever heard. Unfortunately he was severely underutilized on Shoot Your Cousin.

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35. "Big Boi"
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...he was great when they started, but as Dre got better, so did he....

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