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CalvinButts
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"Pete Rock vs. Madlib"


  

          

state your claims

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P R!
Sep 28th 2014
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Pete Rock-and that's just looking at his album work
Sep 28th 2014
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lol
Sep 28th 2014
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      Cute
Sep 28th 2014
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           what artists?
Sep 28th 2014
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                You're the expert around here on production, you should know already
Sep 28th 2014
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                     hahahaha
Sep 29th 2014
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Pete Rock...at his best, no one is better
Sep 28th 2014
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RE: at his best, no one is better
Sep 28th 2014
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RE: Pete Rock...at his best, no one is better
Sep 28th 2014
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To me Primo has the longest list of bangers
Sep 29th 2014
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      That's mostly because "bangers" is Primo's style
Sep 29th 2014
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           Jay Dee can't put an album together like Primo
Sep 29th 2014
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                I think Fantastics 1+2 and W2D are proof that he can
Sep 29th 2014
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Agreed.
Sep 28th 2014
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correct
Sep 29th 2014
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Pete
Sep 28th 2014
10

BNueve
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1. "P R!"
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I know a lot of other people think he's fallen off, but I still enjoy a lot of his recent production.

  

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Garhart Poppwell
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2. "Pete Rock-and that's just looking at his album work"
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Once we get to his remix work and artist molding it becomes fairly one-sided

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CalvinButts
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3. "lol"
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>and artist molding

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Garhart Poppwell
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5. "Cute"
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CalvinButts
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6. "what artists?"
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that's actually a weakness for both Pete & Lib

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Garhart Poppwell
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8. "You're the expert around here on production, you should know already"
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CalvinButts
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12. "hahahaha"
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expert my ass

touche

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4. "Pete Rock...at his best, no one is better"
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Sun Sep-28-14 08:39 PM by Anonymous

  

          

Nm

  

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CalvinButts
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7. "RE: at his best, no one is better"
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that's a fair statement, his production changed my life

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9. "RE: Pete Rock...at his best, no one is better"
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Agreed and I'm a Primo stan.

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13. "To me Primo has the longest list of bangers"
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But Pete in my opinion is technically better and is more versatile.

1 Pete Rock
2 DJ Premier
3 RZA

  

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PCProductions
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14. "That's mostly because "bangers" is Primo's style"
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But hip hop production isn't always about making bangers, even they are by definition a great beat. I think that's where Pete and Jay Dee separated themselves from Premier, though Premier could occasionally show subtlety as well, especially with Gang Starr. That's why Premier falls to #3 for me.

  

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Garhart Poppwell
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15. "Jay Dee can't put an album together like Primo "
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In fact he's more of a "banger" producer than he is an album - oriented one, which is one of the reasons why his list is a lot shorter than his superiors
Not to say he doesn't do it well, but Donuts aside most of his material is of the "great song after great song" variety

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PCProductions
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16. "I think Fantastics 1+2 and W2D are proof that he can"
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The Shining is a bad example because of his health throughout the project and other than that I'm not sure what else we have to evaluate. I think his "shorter list" is circumstantial, personally, but I do see what you're getting at.

These lists are really subjective, anyway, and if you have Premier above Jay Dee I can't really argue against it. He's up there with him them at the highest echelon you can reach as a hip hop producer, the ordering is a matter of personal opinion.

  

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11. "Agreed."
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17. "correct"
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10. "Pete "
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But that's only because Pete is the best or second best ever in my eyes. No knock to Madlib, but Pete is Pete.

  

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