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"new Prince song 'Funkandroll'"


          

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9R1E4y7_Js#t=195

Apparently this version will be on his solo album. God help me, I kind of like it.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
The live version on Arsenio was BEASTING...
Sep 23rd 2014
1
that version may be on the 3rd eye girl album.
Sep 23rd 2014
2
      I just discovered that it will be (samples below)
Sep 23rd 2014
11
oh shit.
Sep 23rd 2014
3
is that
Sep 23rd 2014
4
Been....
Sep 23rd 2014
5
RE: Been....
Sep 23rd 2014
6
RE: Been....
Sep 23rd 2014
8
It's not bad.
Sep 23rd 2014
7
the title/lyrics are corny BUT
Sep 23rd 2014
9
pretty much
Sep 24th 2014
12
90s prince vibes is indeed an indictment.
Sep 24th 2014
13
      yeah. meant to put 'project'.
Sep 24th 2014
14
           there's very little prince that has had any replay value for me
Sep 24th 2014
15
                I don't fault that
Sep 24th 2014
16
                     oh, indeed
Sep 24th 2014
17
                     absolutely
Sep 24th 2014
18
                          you guys are being very strict
Sep 24th 2014
19
                               I'm actually in the same boat to be honest
Sep 24th 2014
20
                               the guy needs some hobbies
Sep 24th 2014
21
                                    i've heard he likes to roller skate.
Sep 24th 2014
23
                               i'm not saying that there wasn't any good stuff in the 90s.
Sep 24th 2014
22
                     Hmm....
Sep 24th 2014
24
                          <sigh>
Sep 24th 2014
25
                               Lol.
Sep 24th 2014
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                               RE: &lt;sigh&gt;
Sep 24th 2014
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                                    RE: &lt;sigh&gt;
Sep 24th 2014
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                                    Aiiight Murph...
Sep 24th 2014
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                                    RE: Aiiight Murph...
Sep 24th 2014
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                                    RE: Aiiight Murph...
Sep 24th 2014
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                                    sorry murph, youre opinion can't be trusted
Sep 24th 2014
49
                                         harsh.
Sep 25th 2014
50
                                         RE: sorry murph, youre opinion can't be trusted
Sep 25th 2014
51
                                              RE: sorry murph, youre opinion can't be trusted
Sep 25th 2014
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                                                   Damn!
Sep 25th 2014
55
                                                   RE: sorry murph, youre opinion can't be trusted
Sep 25th 2014
60
                                                        yo, it's not that serious lol
Sep 25th 2014
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                                                             RE: yo, it's not that serious lol
Sep 25th 2014
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The lyrics and subject matter has been my #1 problem with these tunes
Sep 24th 2014
30
RE: The lyrics and subject matter has been my #1 problem with these tune...
Sep 24th 2014
33
      RE: The lyrics and subject matter has been my #1 problem with these tune...
Sep 24th 2014
34
      Hold on...
Sep 24th 2014
35
      I'll give you
Sep 24th 2014
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           RE: I'll give you
Sep 24th 2014
37
                You're missing the point murph
Sep 24th 2014
40
                     RE: You're missing the point murph
Sep 24th 2014
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                          I'll give it a chance ....
Sep 24th 2014
43
                          fingers crossed
Sep 24th 2014
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                          RE: fingers crossed
Sep 24th 2014
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                          Aiiiight Murph....PE-B+ / AOA-A-
Sep 25th 2014
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                               RE: Aiiiight Murph....PE-B+ / AOA-A-
Sep 25th 2014
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                               100% agreed, now that I've heard both.
Sep 30th 2014
101
title and lyrics are LARRY
Sep 25th 2014
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      RE: title and lyrics are LARRY
Sep 29th 2014
100
RE: new Prince song 'Funkandroll'
Sep 23rd 2014
10
moving in the right direction.
Sep 24th 2014
38
yep.
Sep 24th 2014
39
Let me ease your mind, homie...lol
Sep 24th 2014
42
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sep 24th 2014
47
you're talking sonically...i'm talking about the whole package
Sep 25th 2014
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      RE: you're talking sonically...i'm talking about the whole package
Sep 25th 2014
66
LOL
Sep 24th 2014
45
The evidence doesn't even support your claim...
Sep 24th 2014
48
RE: The evidence doesn't even support your claim...
Sep 25th 2014
52
He gets fuckloads of credit for that.
Sep 26th 2014
75
      that's probably true.
Sep 26th 2014
77
dogg...
Sep 25th 2014
64
      You could have chosen a nicer way to say you have no argument...
Sep 25th 2014
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           said all that needed saying
Sep 25th 2014
68
LMMFAO
Sep 25th 2014
56
^^^THIS!
Sep 25th 2014
58
LULZ!!!!!!!
Sep 25th 2014
70
Amen
Sep 26th 2014
83
it's cool
Sep 25th 2014
53
^^^^^^
Sep 25th 2014
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RE: it's cool
Sep 26th 2014
80
when its said "I dont hate it, its not exactly horrible"
Sep 25th 2014
59
oh shit.
Sep 25th 2014
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RE: oh shit.
Sep 25th 2014
71
gold standard got me...needs a great video
Sep 25th 2014
73
agreed. it's actually funky and
Sep 26th 2014
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      RE: agreed. it's actually funky and
Sep 26th 2014
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           that song is Prince.
Sep 27th 2014
86
beat has some slap to it. can't wait to jam this on a real system
Sep 26th 2014
78
RE: beat has some slap to it. can't wait to jam this on a real system
Sep 26th 2014
81
Reeeeally like "Way Back Home"
Sep 26th 2014
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RE: Reeeeally like "Way Back Home"
Sep 27th 2014
84
ok Murph. let me know when you cookin' that bird
Sep 27th 2014
85
Prognosis Doc?
Sep 27th 2014
87
most of what was said in this thread.
Sep 27th 2014
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      I said the same thing homie re:Condensate
Oct 03rd 2014
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RE: ok Murph. let me know when you cookin' that bird
Sep 27th 2014
88
he should def stay with warners
Sep 28th 2014
90
I thought much the same as you here
Sep 28th 2014
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RE: I thought much the same as you here
Sep 28th 2014
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      RE: I thought much the same as you here
Sep 28th 2014
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      As much as Gold grabbed me...Time knocked me out
Sep 28th 2014
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      RE: As much as Gold grabbed me...Time knocked me out
Oct 01st 2014
111
      Yessir... that song killed me
Sep 28th 2014
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           RE: Yessir... that song killed me
Sep 28th 2014
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           RE: Yessir... that song killed me
Sep 28th 2014
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RE: he should def stay with warners
Sep 28th 2014
93
RE: new Prince song 'Funkandroll'
Sep 28th 2014
RE: new Prince song 'Funkandroll'
Sep 28th 2014
95
yall mfks (org, okp, etc) got me hyped to hear this..
Sep 30th 2014
102
dude.
Sep 30th 2014
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      RE: dude.
Sep 30th 2014
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           well, your mileage may vary
Sep 30th 2014
105
I really enjoyed this, played it twice, no skips....
Sep 30th 2014
106
RE: I really enjoyed this, played it twice, no skips....
Sep 30th 2014
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no doubt.
Sep 30th 2014
109
AOA is really good
Sep 30th 2014
108
RE: new Prince song 'Funkandroll'
Oct 01st 2014
110
AOA is dope.
Oct 01st 2014
112
I dig it...
Oct 01st 2014
113
I'm on the first track... yall better not be fucking with me
Oct 02nd 2014
114
its a solid B/B+..these folks here claiming A+ and shit
Oct 02nd 2014
115
      this shit is Rave part II
Oct 02nd 2014
116
      this record POO POOs over Rave.
Oct 02nd 2014
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           i agree with this word for word.
Oct 02nd 2014
118
           *le sigh*
Oct 02nd 2014
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                RE: *le sigh*
Oct 02nd 2014
120
                LOL!! I'm sorry this is comical man
Oct 02nd 2014
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                     RE: LOL!! I'm sorry this is comical man
Oct 02nd 2014
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                          I never said Rave was *shit*
Oct 02nd 2014
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                          RE: I never said Rave was *shit*
Oct 03rd 2014
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                               You're really mad I won't call it *shit*
Oct 03rd 2014
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                          leave him alone, murph. i've been where he's at.
Oct 03rd 2014
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                the main difference is that
Oct 03rd 2014
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                     This is what led to the Rave comparison
Oct 03rd 2014
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      RE: its a solid B/B+..these folks here claiming A+ and shit
Oct 02nd 2014
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           Im actually upping to B+/A-
Oct 02nd 2014
125
                LOL!!! It's a C/C+ at best
Oct 02nd 2014
126
my take on the album, track by track
Oct 03rd 2014
128
lyrics been killing him for years...not like he can't make a groove at a...
Oct 03rd 2014
134

Boogie Stimuli
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1. "The live version on Arsenio was BEASTING..."
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this is a nice lil laid back groove. I like the beginning of the changed tempo part where
the guitar is playing, right before the bring the vocals back in.
I was really hoping that Arsenio version would be on the album.

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2. "that version may be on the 3rd eye girl album."
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11. "I just discovered that it will be (samples below)"
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https://www.highresaudio.com/artist.php?abid=276349

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3. "oh shit."
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fuck you.

  

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4. "is that "
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a good oh shit or nah?

its growing on me. I'm digging the guitars at the end though.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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5. "Been...."
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trying to wrap my head around this ever since I heard it back in Feb. In a system this shit pops. The oldhead Prince fan side of me is trying to absorb the old man dipping into that made-for-radio, Bay Area club sound...But the beat and synth flip is pure "weirdo" Prince....A cool, sneaky sucker punch....

The one thing that can't be disputed is this ain't Prince on auto-pilot...He's working out of his comfort zone on a few of these newer tracks...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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6. "RE: Been...."
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that last 1.20 min coda though..jesus,,.,me thinks this will be Prince's best selling cd since Diamonds and Pearls..Songs are killinf plus just heard MARZ and ANOTHERLOVE from Plectrum..I see Grammys' in the future

  

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8. "RE: Been...."
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the litmusis can you play these out in the open and not get a side eye . every song has passed that test. that has not happened ionb over 20 years with a Prince album

  

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7. "It's not bad."
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But I really have no dire need to hear it again.

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9. "the title/lyrics are corny BUT"
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Tue Sep-23-14 12:42 PM by GumDrops

  

          

the vamp at the end is really good. and i like that its him playing around with modern sounds/styles without copying them. but its not something i want to put on my ipod (its just not a particularly pleasurable song which i put down to the lyrics and chorus, which are both tragically/painfully lazy), i just like the fact its not terrible. its nice to hear him making some effort for once. he should stay with warners. not heard him make this much effort in a while.

  

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12. "pretty much"
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>the vamp at the end is really good. and i like that its him
>playing around with modern sounds/styles without copying them.
>but its not something i want to put on my ipod (its just not a
>particularly pleasurable song which i put down to the lyrics
>and chorus, which are both tragically/painfully lazy), i just
>like the fact its not terrible. its nice to hear him making
>some effort for once. he should stay with warners. not heard
>him make this much effort in a while.

and I realize now that I'm being an "old Prince head who's heard it all" (not really, I'm still kind of a noob among the diehards); the general audience response to this song and some others are positive ("Prince is making bangers!", etc). so I can't call it.

I like the end part of this song. I just get '90s Prince vibes from this, and...

  

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13. "90s prince vibes is indeed an indictment."
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14. "yeah. meant to put 'project'."
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Wed Sep-24-14 10:13 AM by Dr Claw

  

          

I hope I'm pleasantly surprised when I hear the whole thing and figure out what the idea was.

my issue with '90s Prince was the "following whilst shedding most of what made you who you are", which resulted in a lot of uneven works. I actually like 2000s Prince way better than the '90s overall. even if there were some classic songs in the muck of the latter, and not much reaching or exceeding those heights in the former.

  

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15. "there's very little prince that has had any replay value for me "
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since graffiti bridge.

  

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16. "I don't fault that"
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and there were a lot of "issues" on that album too. it was the first Prince album to make me go "WTF" in a negative way

  

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17. "oh, indeed"
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but 'joy in repetition' and 'question of u' might both make my top ten prince tunes that still would stand all time.

  

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18. "absolutely"
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>but 'joy in repetition' and 'question of u' might both make
>my top ten prince tunes that still would stand all time.

I think that "Joy In Repetition" was extremely forward thinking. and as SoWhat posted in another thread it was already "old", which is crazy. the best songs on that album were all the "old" songs.

except that version of "Tick Tick Bang", which is contemporary (for '90) but is bullshit compared to the one he shelved (IMO)

  

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19. "you guys are being very strict"
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i know the cool thing to say is that he fell off after 1988, and well, he did... but... there are still good songs after that. and its okay for prince to have a silver period after the 80s. this is the bronze period lol. most people agree that the 90s still had gems (its kinda silly to still deny the 90s had good stuff in 2014), and even the lesser songs, they still had something redeeming about them, whatever that was, but i dont hear much joy in his music making these days, even this newer stuff, i like the effort, but theres something kinda 'im just making this as i dont know how to do anything else with my days' about it. ill check it out though. im still a fan of the man if not the music.

  

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20. "I'm actually in the same boat to be honest"
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>but i
>dont hear much joy in his music making these days, even this
>newer stuff, i like the effort, but theres something kinda 'im
>just making this as i dont know how to do anything else with
>my days' about it. ill check it out though. im still a fan of
>the man if not the music.

LOL. Like a song that's not included on this record: "Groovy Potential". I really liked the -music-.

but Prince didn't really put lyrics around it that matched. he was like, "ok... some words"

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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21. "the guy needs some hobbies "
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some holidays probably wouldnt hurt either

  

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23. "i've heard he likes to roller skate. "
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Wed Sep-24-14 01:14 PM by shockzilla

          

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22. "i'm not saying that there wasn't any good stuff in the 90s."
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i loved a lot of emancipation at the time, for instance. just not interested in listening to it now.

  

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24. "Hmm...."
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>and there were a lot of "issues" on that album too. it was
>the first Prince album to make me go "WTF" in a negative way


The funny thing is this AOA album is the most "Prince" sounding album he has dropped in the last 15 years or so...I'm not simply talking about production...I'm talking about spirit...that weird, kooky, and cool Prince that has often times been buried by JW Prince...

I think u will be pleasantly surprised DOC...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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25. "<sigh>"
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26. "Lol."
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27. "RE: &lt;sigh&gt;"
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Wed Sep-24-14 01:59 PM by murph71

          


Here's what I posted on the Org to give u a better sense of what I'm talking about...It's not about Prince making a song as epic as say "Something In The Water" or as throat-grabbing as "When Doves Cry...' It's about dude finally being comfortable with being "Prince" again....

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My brief thoughts on AOA....

Having finally gotten a copy of it, this is indeed the best "Prince" album I've heard in more than 15 years.....

Why the quotes? Because for years, while the man has given us small doses of that weird, tongue-in-cheek, funny, and unpredictable "Prince," it's always taken a backseat to Prince going back to the musical roots of his youth (basically doing the same type of old school R&B/James Brown/70s R&B nods that Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen have done with old school folk and rock....)..."Musicology," which was a good track, represents where I'm getting at. And there was nothing wrong with that direction...It's quite natural, really...

What AOA displays is a man who seems to be in love again with being weirdo, left field-with-a-nod-to-the-mainstream Prince....

Again, there are some heads who may not like the fact that Prince is taking in some modern sounds and infusing it with his Prince-ness....But that's what makes AOA his most cohesive album in ages (as others have mentioned)...No, not every song hits the spot...At times "Gold Standard" seems to go on a little too long....And I have no idea why "Breakfast Can Wait" made this album. Again, it's "OK Prince"...but it seems out of place here and it's taking up space.....

But the standout moments soar....I've heard complaints about this album having too many mid tempo/slow cuts...I'm going to chalk this up to musical cultural differences given as how as a kid from the South Side of Chicago Prince "slow jams" were always a staple, if u catch my drift....

There are some songs on this album that take u back to a time when Prince was clever, weird, sexy AND cool...."Way Back Home" is DOPE...."What It Feels Like" is on repeat...And "AOA" is just a fun record....

If YOUR problem with this record is that it embraces too many "urban" trends, then that's on you....I haven't heard Prince this refreshed in ages...The very synthy, futuristic sound takes me to a 1999 vibe (again, someone else mentioned this)...This is not saying it's on the same level as 1999....But the feel of the album is in that vein....There is nothing on the level of say "Little Red Corvette"...But it doesn't have to be....What AOA does is presents Prince to a younger crowd while giving old heads a taste of why they fell in love with dude in the first place...

If you are a "Prince" fan u will dig this...If you want him to bring back his mid '80s Revolution era, genre-jumping, Wendy & Lisa era, this album may not be for u....

I for one like THIS Prince...He's having fun again....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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28. "RE: &lt;sigh&gt;"
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ANd ANOTHERLOVE from PE is the best song he has recorded in years even if alice smith wrote it

  

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29. "Aiiight Murph..."
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I hear where you're coming from
I'll hold my side eye until I hear the record!!

Now what's your take on PE?

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31. "RE: Aiiight Murph..."
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Wed Sep-24-14 02:19 PM by Red07

          

PE 30 sec snips from each track


https://www.highresaudio.com/artist.php?abid=276349

  

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32. "RE: Aiiight Murph..."
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>I hear where you're coming from
>I'll hold my side eye until I hear the record!!
>
>Now what's your take on PE?

I've only heard a few tracks on PE...That Alice Smith cover is indeed dope and there are few joints I dug...But I still can't say...Hannah doing lead vocals is not what I was asking for...

As for AOA...It has to be said that some fans may not like the fact that Prince is mixing the old and the new...

I know some fans who HATE the "FunkNRoll" remix...lol..They hate it because they see it as Prince going for that trendy sound...

There are others who love the fact that Prince is finally stepping out and rolling the dice on a fresher sound...

The way I look at it is this is the most cohesive Prince has sounded in ages. Very conceptual....And again he's having fun again...He's tapping into that weird Prince again, but in a way that won't spook out fans....

But hey...u may find this album to be a piece of shit...lol

Different strokes, ya know...

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49. "sorry murph, youre opinion can't be trusted"
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>
>Here's what I posted on the Org to give u a better sense of
>what I'm talking about...It's not about Prince making a song
>as epic as say "Something In The Water" or as throat-grabbing
>as "When Doves Cry...' It's about dude finally being
>comfortable with being "Prince" again....
>
>----
>
>My brief thoughts on AOA....
>
>Having finally gotten a copy of it, this is indeed the best
>"Prince" album I've heard in more than 15 years.....
>
>Why the quotes? Because for years, while the man has given us
>small doses of that weird, tongue-in-cheek, funny, and
>unpredictable "Prince," it's always taken a backseat to Prince
>going back to the musical roots of his youth (basically doing
>the same type of old school R&B/James Brown/70s R&B nods that
>Neil Young and Bruce Springsteen have done with old school
>folk and rock....)..."Musicology," which was a good track,
>represents where I'm getting at. And there was nothing wrong
>with that direction...It's quite natural, really...
>
>What AOA displays is a man who seems to be in love again with
>being weirdo, left field-with-a-nod-to-the-mainstream
>Prince....
>
>Again, there are some heads who may not like the fact that
>Prince is taking in some modern sounds and infusing it with
>his Prince-ness....But that's what makes AOA his most cohesive
>album in ages (as others have mentioned)...No, not every song
>hits the spot...At times "Gold Standard" seems to go on a
>little too long....And I have no idea why "Breakfast Can Wait"
>made this album. Again, it's "OK Prince"...but it seems out of
>place here and it's taking up space.....
>
>But the standout moments soar....I've heard complaints about
>this album having too many mid tempo/slow cuts...I'm going to
>chalk this up to musical cultural differences given as how as
>a kid from the South Side of Chicago Prince "slow jams" were
>always a staple, if u catch my drift....
>
>There are some songs on this album that take u back to a time
>when Prince was clever, weird, sexy AND cool...."Way Back
>Home" is DOPE...."What It Feels Like" is on repeat...And "AOA"
>is just a fun record....
>
>If YOUR problem with this record is that it embraces too many
>"urban" trends, then that's on you....I haven't heard Prince
>this refreshed in ages...The very synthy, futuristic sound
>takes me to a 1999 vibe (again, someone else mentioned
>this)...This is not saying it's on the same level as
>1999....But the feel of the album is in that vein....There is
>nothing on the level of say "Little Red Corvette"...But it
>doesn't have to be....What AOA does is presents Prince to a
>younger crowd while giving old heads a taste of why they fell
>in love with dude in the first place...
>
>If you are a "Prince" fan u will dig this...If you want him to
>bring back his mid '80s Revolution era, genre-jumping, Wendy &
>Lisa era, this album may not be for u....
>
>I for one like THIS Prince...He's having fun again....

  

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50. "harsh."
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51. "RE: sorry murph, youre opinion can't be trusted"
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Where on earth did that come from? lol

Did I piss in your corn flakes and told u it was milk or something?

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54. "RE: sorry murph, youre opinion can't be trusted"
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>Where on earth did that come from? lol
>
>Did I piss in your corn flakes and told u it was milk or
>something?
>

No, but if Prince pissed in yours, you would automatically praise it lol

  

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55. "Damn!"
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60. "RE: sorry murph, youre opinion can't be trusted"
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Yeah, cool joke, homie...Except that's some 'ol bullshit...lol

There's posts in this very thread I've made criticizing Prince...

On the real, we've always had some pretty cool back and forths...a few stumbles here and there, but never on the level of disrespect...Now I could understand if I was on some "This is Prince's best album since SOTT!!!!!"....But I've been very measured in my initial thoughts on this album....And VERY specific with context...Not to mention very critical of 3EG project (very shaky with 2 or 3 bright spots...)

Again, maybe it was our little squabble we had a few weeks ago, which was a blip on the screen for me...Didn't think much of it...

If you want to disagree with my views on Prince, cool...But labeling me something I'm not ain't the route to go on this...


And I like Jack D in my corn flakes...

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61. "yo, it's not that serious lol"
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but murph u are overly positive about Prince and even his crap music lol..so thats where Im coming from. I need more objective ears to inform aka..Old Pro etc. Not that what you have to say isnt a valid contribution.

But at this point its akin to opposite of having to hear AFKAPS take on anything Dangelo (yes afkap I know u try to be impartial and fair blah blah blah)

>Yeah, cool joke, homie...Except that's some 'ol
>bullshit...lol
>
>There's posts in this very thread I've made criticizing
>Prince...
>
>On the real, we've always had some pretty cool back and
>forths...a few stumbles here and there, but never on the level
>of disrespect...Now I could understand if I was on some "This
>is Prince's best album since SOTT!!!!!"....But I've been very
>measured in my initial thoughts on this album....And VERY
>specific with context...Not to mention very critical of 3EG
>project (very shaky with 2 or 3 bright spots...)
>
>Again, maybe it was our little squabble we had a few weeks
>ago, which was a blip on the screen for me...Didn't think much
>of it...
>
>If you want to disagree with my views on Prince, cool...But
>labeling me something I'm not ain't the route to go on
>this...
>
>
>And I like Jack D in my corn flakes...

  

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62. "RE: yo, it's not that serious lol"
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Thu Sep-25-14 09:34 AM by murph71

          

>but murph u are overly positive ab0ut Prince and even his
>crap music lol..so thats where Im coming from. I need more
>objective ears to inform aka..Olp Pro etc. Not that what you
>have to say isnt a valid contribution.


U got me mixed up with some other Prince fans, homie...I'm the guy who has gone on record saying that Prince needed new inspiration...In fact, I'm the guy who has talked extensively about how shaky the 3EG album project would be (and I was right...I like him and the girls as a live band....But there's only about 3 songs that pop on Plectrum Electrum...the rest should have been left on the cutting room floor)...

Now just because I don't think Prince's 90's era was not the turd some Revolution obsessed fans make it out to be or that I have battled it out with Maxxx on this board on all things Prince doesn't mean I'm slurping that Purple...And just because I think he is the best live performer of his era doesn't mean I'm sucking the Midget off...I have criticized Prince on everything from his frankly out of touch and stupid handling of online media to his rushed output throughout much of the '00's...



>But at this point its akin to opposite of having to hear
>AFKAPS take on anything Dangelo (yes afkap I know u try to be
>impartial and fair blah blah blah)

Nah dog...it ain't even on that level...lol...I'm in this very thread backing up a post made by Basa how Larry G. watered down P's funk for the most part over the last 10 plus years...Could you imagine KAP even agreeing with anything Warren has to say about D? Nah...not in this world...lol


This is what I'm sticking with: Prince made a "PRINCE" album with AOA...It is his most cohesive, conceptual album in nearly two decades...It's the freshest the man has sounded in years...What you won't hear me say is "this is the best album since blah, blah blah"...

But yeah...I'm not that dude u r painting me out to be...lol...At all....

Just saying...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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30. "The lyrics and subject matter has been my #1 problem with these tunes"
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I can take the music more than i can take these amateur lyrics
He's not saying anything important

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33. "RE: The lyrics and subject matter has been my #1 problem with these tune..."
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>I can take the music more than i can take these amateur
>lyrics
>He's not saying anything important


Was he saying anything important with "Do It All Night," "Jack U Off," "Darling Niki" or "Housequake"?

I judge Prince's lyricism in terms of good vs. bad, not whether or not he's saying something important...This dude has always played both sides of the fence...


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34. "RE: The lyrics and subject matter has been my #1 problem with these tune..."
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>>I can take the music more than i can take these amateur
>>lyrics
>>He's not saying anything important
>
>
>Was he saying anything important with "Do It All Night," "Jack
>U Off," "Darling Niki" or "Housequake"?
>
>I judge Prince's lyricism in terms of good vs. bad, not
>whether or not he's saying something important...This dude has
>always played both sides of the fence...
>
>
>
Exactly,,he sang about blow jobs and incest, wtf are they talking about important? And why cant he have all this young pussy around and sing about shit young pussy likes..

  

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35. "Hold on..."
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I expect immature subject matter from kids
I don't expect wack lyrics from a 56 year old "genius"
Let's not act like Prince's recent lyrical output is on par with the music
Hell his weak link has always been his writing
Y'all can be ok with the lyrics on these records but I'm not and that's cool
To each his own

When I say important
I'm not talking "get the knowledge" important
I'm talking writing songs of some substance instead of going through the motions songwriting.
Important meaning a song that makes me want to go back and listen to it again
He can sing about whatever he wants to sing about but he should be writing songs that are on the level of a Lenny Kravitz.



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36. "I'll give you "
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>Was he saying anything important with "Do It All Night," "Jack
>U Off," "Darling Niki" or "Housequake"?
>
>I judge Prince's lyricism in terms of good vs. bad, not
>whether or not he's saying something important...This dude has
>always played both sides of the fence...

"Housequake"

but the intent of the other songs, particularly "Jack U Off" (the funniest song in his catalog IMO, including the actual music) is to shock... and in the early '80s, his method of shocking (esp. coming from a Black artist in that era) is "important"...

  

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37. "RE: I'll give you "
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>>Was he saying anything important with "Do It All Night,"
>"Jack
>>U Off," "Darling Niki" or "Housequake"?
>>
>>I judge Prince's lyricism in terms of good vs. bad, not
>>whether or not he's saying something important...This dude
>has
>>always played both sides of the fence...
>
>"Housequake"
>
>but the intent of the other songs, particularly "Jack U Off"
>(the funniest song in his catalog IMO, including the actual
>music) is to shock... and in the early '80s, his method of
>shocking (esp. coming from a Black artist in that era) is
>"important"...


I don't buy it though...Prince at times has been a serious minded writer and a silly, whimsical writer....

He's sang about parties in a conceptual manner ("1999") and a shake yo ass way ("Housequake")....

At this point all I care about with Prince is: is the song good or not? Is he trying to do some contrived bullshit?

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40. "You're missing the point murph"
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Wed Sep-24-14 04:14 PM by revolution75

  

          

You can be silly fun and whimsical and still say something of importance/substance IMHO
Important to me just doesn't mean Gil Scott Heron or Curtis Mayfield important
For example,OPP was silly fun and important
And that song still stands 22 years later
These songs just don't stand because of the weak lyrical content
The lyrics just ain't there and part of the reason they aren't there is because he ain't about that life anymore.
He's a frigging devout Jehovah's Witness!!




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41. "RE: You're missing the point murph"
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>You can be silly fun and whimsical and still say something of
>importance/substance IMHO
>Important to me just doesn't mean Gil Scott Heron or Curtis
>Mayfield important
>For example,OPP was silly fun and important
>And that song still stands 22 years later
>These songs just don't stand because of the weak lyrical
>content
>The lyrics just ain't there and part of the reason they aren't
>there is because he ain't about that life anymore.
>He's a frigging devout Jehovah's Witness!!


I think u r looking for something that was never there, homie...lol

If anything his lyricism had become too subdued...way too constrained...

I will say this for the new album: his lyrics are much more carefree...And at times esoteric...

There is def. a difference between AOA Prince and Musicology Prince...I think u will understand what I'm talking about...

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43. "I'll give it a chance ...."
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And i will take what you're saying into consideration when i get my hands on these projects.

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44. "fingers crossed"
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all i know is that lyric-wise, funk n roll isnt the 'weirdo' or 'esoteric' prince i remember lol

  

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46. "RE: fingers crossed"
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>all i know is that lyric-wise, funk n roll isnt the 'weirdo'
>or 'esoteric' prince i remember lol

The kooky voice, the freak out coda at the end...that's weird Prince to me...

Not "Tambourine" weird....lol...But worlds away from "Get On The Boat" and thank God...

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72. "Aiiiight Murph....PE-B+ / AOA-A-"
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PE's not a bad record...better than I expected
If he would have been lead on all songs, it would have been better
Hannah's voice is just god awful
I'd rather listen to Mayte's record than her lol
.....and I don't ever want to hear that boy trouble song EVER AGAIN!!

AOA started off on a bad foot for me. OONTZ P ain't for me
Now the album did get rolling once I got to Gold Standard
Whooooooooooo....That's what I'm talking about!!!


Overall two good (not great) projects
There's the flashes of purple brilliance on both records
If he would have combined the best of the two along with a few songs like Groovy Potential, it could have been a great record.

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74. "RE: Aiiiight Murph....PE-B+ / AOA-A-"
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>PE's not a bad record...better than I expected
>If he would have been lead on all songs, it would have been
>better
>Hannah's voice is just god awful
>I'd rather listen to Mayte's record than her lol
>.....and I don't ever want to hear that boy trouble song EVER
>AGAIN!!
>
>AOA started off on a bad foot for me. OONTZ P ain't for me
>Now the album did get rolling once I got to Gold Standard
>Whooooooooooo....That's what I'm talking about!!!
>
>
>Overall two good (not great) projects
>There's the flashes of purple brilliance on both records
>If he would have combined the best of the two along with a few
>songs like Groovy Potential, it could have been a great
>record.


I don't see much "good" with P.E. except maybe about 3 or 4 songs...("Wow" kicks ass...And that Alice Smith cover is THAT SHIT...Most of the rest, beyond the original "FunkNRoll," which I dig and maybe one other joint, I wasn't much into....The rest? Not what I wanted to hear...And Hannah's lead vocals? Nah...I'm good...lol


Now AOA? There are more than enough "good" moments on that album...I'll say it again...This is an actual "PRINCE" album, which I haven't heard in ages....I think that's the headline folks listening to this project need to keep in mind...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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101. "100% agreed, now that I've heard both."
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>PE's not a bad record...better than I expected
>If he would have been lead on all songs, it would have been
>better
>Hannah's voice is just god awful
>I'd rather listen to Mayte's record than her lol
>.....and I don't ever want to hear that boy trouble song EVER
>AGAIN!!

PLECTRUM ELECTRUM is closer to what I expected from a major label album from Prince in 2014. Shades of what I love, and a little bit of bullshit.

Now "Boy Trouble"? that's a WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE lot of bullshit.

Well, the vocals are. I really dig the music. But the vocals? Hell naw. That sounds like Prince wrote that for Vanity and 'em (or their 2014 equivalents). Some Bratz-ass music. It's way out of the vibe of this record. I'd have rather they put up "Live Out Loud" than that. Or even Screwdriver. Prince should have sold that as a one off.

Ida (the bassist) really brings it on this record. She's kind of the "Jesse" of this band, LOL.

But yeah. This is Prince "rock", mostly devoid of the BS. "Funknroll" studio version should have ditched the "scratching". That actually makes it sound dated. But I like how the two versions of "Funknroll" are kind of conceptual "alternate universe" versions. "Marz" is pretty dope (but dreadfully cut short).

"Anotherlove". That's classic Prince to me.

I like it, but IMO it ain't seeing AOA, that's my favorite of the two (flaws in all).

  

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65. "title and lyrics are LARRY"
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they never happen if he'd never started hanging with larry.

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100. "RE: title and lyrics are LARRY"
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>they never happen if he'd never started hanging with larry.


well the ghost of larry is nowhere to be found on these records..so you know not what you speak

  

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10. "RE: new Prince song 'Funkandroll'"
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I want to hear all of 'Way Back Home '... that one sounds incredible!

  

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38. "moving in the right direction. "
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it still got some loveboat larry stench on it tho.

dunno what it is, but that general corniness i been feeling from him the last 20 years is LARRY!!!

larry bamma ass funked all the avant garde outta my dogg. DAMN, HE A BAMMA!!!

YOUNG, LOOK AT HIM!!! HE A BAMMA!!!

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tr2R151v_48/TxAldIkFRFI/AAAAAAAAAKY/X_Aq-_qgFyo/s1600/larrygraham-052606-53491whitehat.jpg


http://www.bbkingblues.com/inc/artists/444.jpg

http://img05.ti-da.net/usr/rabbitusagi/LG.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-a75TWKoLVh8/TqhlwDy4Z4I/AAAAAAAADIE/xzjZmBCEoTQ/s1600/larry.jpg


GET PRINCE AWAY FROM HIM!!!

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39. "yep."
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42. "Let me ease your mind, homie...lol"
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The "Bamma" essence of Larry (who BTW, beyond his later corny years, needs to be respected as a groundbreaking bassist) is so far removed from this project's sound and energy it ain't even funny....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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47. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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>
>
>The "Bamma" essence of Larry (who BTW, beyond his later corny
>years, needs to be respected as a groundbreaking bassist) is
>so far removed from this project's sound and energy it ain't
>even funny....

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63. "you're talking sonically...i'm talking about the whole package"
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i've said it for years, if ANOTHER ARTIST had put out some of the stuff he put out over the past 25 years, they would have been massive hits...from "black sweat" to "dreamer" to "call my name" "laydown"...the whole Rainbow Children album....dogg, those projects would've made STARS outta folks. because they woulda been new and they'd be packaged for TODAY. man, you know how much richer Jill Scott would be if he woulda just GAVE her Chelsea Rodgers? REALLY RICH!!! that song a hit! but, ugh...he put it out.

"art" isn't judged in a vacuum. it IS a story. prince's story USED to be "forward-thinking PRODIGY, amazing fashion sense, the guy who everyone else follows...the coolest guy in the room"....now? "OLD...BAMMA ASS...GENIUS...best years passed...cool in a nostalgic kinda way"

and he's a BAMMA because of LARRY. all this wack ass funk-tinged crap i keep hearing in these tracks and in the way he LOOKS. he look a damn fool. ain't nobody gonna follow THAT GUY, lookin like my aunt blossom at a 1978 picnic in rock creek park.

he need to get his hair game tight and go minimalist with his wardrobe. do you know how crazy it would be if he did a video for "U Know" in jeans and a damn tee? or leather pants a tee...and a short haircut? just him and a mic and an audience of one? like insatiable or something? that's a statement. that's unexpected. but, i already know he gonna do something wack and it's not gonna be received well. BECAUSE HE'S A BAMMA!!! his instincts for visuals and manipulating the zeitgeist are SHOT, dogg. i'm sincerely disgusted by some of the moves he makes.

the music ain't ever been the REAL problem. the problem is LARRY!!! the problem is the whole vibe of prince. in his lyrics. in his look. it's LARRY!!!




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66. "RE: you're talking sonically...i'm talking about the whole package"
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Thu Sep-25-14 10:30 AM by murph71

          

>i've said it for years, if ANOTHER ARTIST had put out some of
>the stuff he put out over the past 25 years, they would have
>been massive hits...from "black sweat" to "dreamer" to "call
>my name" "laydown"...the whole Rainbow Children album....dogg,
>those projects would've made STARS outta folks. because they
>woulda been new and they'd be packaged for TODAY. man, you
>know how much richer Jill Scott would be if he woulda just
>GAVE her Chelsea Rodgers? REALLY RICH!!! that song a hit! but,
>ugh...he put it out.

I agree...Also, I just think it goes with being a veteran act...U come to a point where people care more about seeing you live onstage than the new song, no matter how brilliant it is....



>"art" isn't judged in a vacuum. it IS a story. prince's story
>USED to be "forward-thinking PRODIGY, amazing fashion sense,
>the guy who everyone else follows...the coolest guy in the
>room"....now? "OLD...BAMMA ASS...GENIUS...best years
>passed...cool in a nostalgic kinda way"


He's VERY cool on AOA...That's my underlining point, Basa...And not that old-man-in-the-club cool...The reason why this album works is because this is not a half-hearted attempt at recapturing his '80s sound as he he's tried to do...Imagine someone giving Prince some new sounds on keyboard and saying, "Okay, do your Prince things using the new shit..." That's what u get with AOA...Now some fans may not like Prince playing around with "new" sounds or new energy...I get that...But I like this refreshed, recharged Prince who finally took his time with an album....


>and he's a BAMMA because of LARRY. all this wack ass
>funk-tinged crap i keep hearing in these tracks and in the way
>he LOOKS. he look a damn fool. ain't nobody gonna follow THAT
>GUY, lookin like my aunt blossom at a 1978 picnic in rock
>creek park.
>
>he need to get his hair game tight and go minimalist with his
>wardrobe. do you know how crazy it would be if he did a video
>for "U Know" in jeans and a damn tee? or leather pants a
>tee...and a short haircut? just him and a mic and an audience
>of one? like insatiable or something? that's a statement.
>that's unexpected. but, i already know he gonna do something
>wack and it's not gonna be received well. BECAUSE HE'S A
>BAMMA!!! his instincts for visuals and minipulating the
>zeitgeist are SHOT, dogg. i'm sincerely disgusting by some of
>the moves he makes.
>
>the music ain't ever been the REAL problem. the problem is
>LARRY!!! the problem is the whole vibe of prince. in his
>lyrics. in his look. it's LARRY!!!


lol...

I hear u...And I agree...To a point...Frankly, I like my Prince looking like he just stepped out of another dimension...Remember...we've seen him strip it down in the way that u mentioned (what do you think the "Black Sweat" video was...short hair...suit...just him basically with some sexy chocolate broad....)

I don't know what videos will come out of this...But I do know this...AOA has no trace of Larry....lol...From feel to lyrics to essence to instincts...It's much too forward thinking for that LARRY effect...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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45. "LOL"
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damn, that is too funny and probably true as well

  

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48. "The evidence doesn't even support your claim..."
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because when Larry did an album on Prince's label, it sounded like a PRINCE album
with Larry's voice doing the singing... same with Chaka Khan's album.

Larry influenced him religiously, but not musically at all.



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52. "RE: The evidence doesn't even support your claim..."
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>because when Larry did an album on Prince's label, it sounded
>like a PRINCE album
>with Larry's voice doing the singing... same with Chaka Khan's
>album.
>
>Larry influenced him religiously, but not musically at all.


I think what Basa means is Larry watered down Prince's funk...And in that regard he has a point....That cover of "Everyday Is A Winding Road" is case in point....That song has JW Larry (who plays and sings back up on it) all over it...

But while it's easy to make fun of the same dude that released ultra corn like "One In A Million," I still don't think he gets enough credit as a groundbreaking musician who ushered in a new way and feel for playing bass...

That said, there are no JW Larry moments on AOA...

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75. "He gets fuckloads of credit for that."
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>But while it's easy to make fun of the same dude that released
>ultra corn like "One In A Million," I still don't think he
>gets enough credit as a groundbreaking musician who ushered in
>a new way and feel for playing bass...

In fact, I would argue that he doesn't get enough ridicule for the corniness of so, so much of his GCS output... His innovations on bass have won him MAD passes.

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77. "that's probably true. "
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And I like a lot of GCS stuff but there's definitely a lot of corniness through all of it. I've always thought it was a bit intentional, as I've assumed some of it was from a lot of folks from that era... but maybe that's giving Graham and others too much credit.

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64. "dogg..."
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>Larry influenced him religiously, but not musically at all.


dogg....just be quiet.

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67. "You could have chosen a nicer way to say you have no argument..."
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but you did your best.

You deserve a pat on the back, pal.

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68. "said all that needed saying"
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56. "LMMFAO"
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>dunno what it is, but that general corniness i been feeling
>from him the last 20 years is LARRY!!!

I think I can roll with this. Ever since Prince decided he was going to come out and be "Love Boat"... he ain't been right.

  

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58. "^^^THIS!"
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70. "LULZ!!!!!!!"
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crying.

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83. "Amen"
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53. "it's cool"
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My main problem with contemporary Prince is... oh, why do I bother. It's a cool track. Horrible lyrics, but that's par for today's course. I do agree that P sounds more engaged than he has in a while, and most of the tracks have been cool, but very little has stood out.

(Breakdown had the most potential from what I've heard, but he had to put this stupid synth stabs in there and shine up the production - that shit could have been a new classic if he's spent more time on it and cleaned up the lyrics a bit.)

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57. "^^^^^^"
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Eclectic Soul/Sunday, 2-4 PM est/89.3 WCSB.ORG

  

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80. "RE: it's cool"
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>My main problem with contemporary Prince is... oh, why do I
>bother. It's a cool track. Horrible lyrics, but that's par for
>today's course. I do agree that P sounds more engaged than he
>has in a while, and most of the tracks have been cool, but
>very little has stood out.
>
>(Breakdown had the most potential from what I've heard, but he
>had to put this stupid synth stabs in there and shine up the
>production - that shit could have been a new classic if he's
>spent more time on it and cleaned up the lyrics a bit.)

I'll wait for u to check out the album....

Yep yep...

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59. "when its said "I dont hate it, its not exactly horrible""
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thode statements dont bode well

It sounds ike plea cops for cognitive dissonance aka "its really not that good but I dont want to say that"


having said that, some other preliminary reviews of the albums that some have procured (Im declining to listen to the digital leak, I want hard copies), it seems like a solid B+ effort overall for the totality of both albums. Phew...but I expected something different for a 20 year Warner Bros reunion

  

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69. "oh shit."
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71. "RE: oh shit."
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Listening to AOA now. The thing that stands out most on the album is that all of these songs minus breakfast can wait sound like they belong with each other. The album is quirky, cohesive and without a doubt Prince. On first listen Way Back Home looks to be the best song, and probably one of the most personal songs he's ever written. I've liked his last 3 albums (2010, LF and MPLSound) for what they are, but this is a breath of fresh air. Welcome back Prince.

  

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73. "gold standard got me...needs a great video"
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76. "agreed. it's actually funky and"
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not that vegas revue shit he's been doing for years now.

  

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79. "RE: agreed. it's actually funky and"
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>not that vegas revue shit he's been doing for years now.


Yep....

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86. "that song is Prince."
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78. "beat has some slap to it. can't wait to jam this on a real system"
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playing this in earbuds is a tease. can't wait to hear this in cdq on a nice system.

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81. "RE: beat has some slap to it. can't wait to jam this on a real system"
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Wait til u hear "The Gold Standard," "Way Back Home," and "Time" on a system....

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82. "Reeeeally like "Way Back Home""
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very pretty track

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84. "RE: Reeeeally like "Way Back Home""
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It's a headphones album....Something I haven't said about a Prince album in a loooooong time....

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85. "ok Murph. let me know when you cookin' that bird"
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and I mean some crow. I'll roll through and get a plate.

  

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87. "Prognosis Doc?"
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89. "most of what was said in this thread."
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particularly reply #71, only I do think "Breakfast Can Wait" does fit, at least sonically and with the theme of the songs surrounding it. it's a good, but not great album, though I think it is the most focused from Prince in quite some time. it's very much in an R&B mode, perhaps intentionally, to put some distance between it and Plectrum Electrum.

There is a concept around this album, and Prince does not have the weight of "other people's" sound pinning him down. It's Prince messing around with "modern" music/sounds and making a statement, however buried it may be. It reminds me a lot of Condensate in that, if there's something I don't dig all the way, I don't mind it, because it's still on message. We get bonafide Prince funk for more than one track and it's not the MPLSound type where he's essentially parodying himself; it's -Prince-.

and truth be told, we get a couple of personal tracks out of the guy. I'm not mad at him at all with this. Step in the right direction. I hope he doesn't "abandon" this material.

  

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130. "I said the same thing homie re:Condensate"
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88. "RE: ok Murph. let me know when you cookin' that bird"
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U want hot sauce on that shit....(*jokes*)....

Yeah...I told u...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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90. "he should def stay with warners"
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only half way through AOA but this has to be his best album in i dont know how long. i wonder if its just him who decided to try a little harder this time, or if WB somehow still has old staff he knows there, or maybe he felt the time was right to be a bit more like prince. who knows, either way, this is the kind of prince album i generally want at this stage in his career. impressive. if he tours with this one, i wont be annoyed. not sure i can listen to the 3rd eye girl one too, im happy just knowing this one is a solid 3/5 lol. im not sure how i would expect prince to age (i cant see him doing respectable covers or something all grown up and adult, i.e. become consciously mature and boring, though i do sometimes wonder what he would sound like doing something 'rootsy' and stripped down) but this actually is the prince i remember, in a comfortable way (though im not sure about that big daddy kane rapping on the first song). i think this might be the album where i can stop being mad at prince.

i half expected morris day to turn up at the end of the gold standard.

  

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91. "I thought much the same as you here"
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>i half expected morris day to turn up at the end of the gold
>standard.

especially this. I had long thought Prince was unwilling/incapable of making a song like this now, as he was so obsessed with trying to sound like a Vegas revue of an old funk band. But like "Groovy Potential" before it I think he's letting himself out of hiding.

  

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92. "RE: I thought much the same as you here"
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I agree with the both of you. I'm so happy that he shelved the Las Vegs revue sound.

The song that has really creeped on me over the past few days is Time. He creates a beautiful sound scape the way his vocals are muted, while Andy Allo's are not. Take the music on top of it and it creates this dreamy atmosphere. This is going to sound silly especially since I'm 37 years old, but when I listen to it, I just want to lay down in a field with my wife and watch the clouds go by. That is a good thing.

  

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94. "RE: I thought much the same as you here"
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damn,, id did that was my girl, just lay there and listened to time; not a care in the world..dope ass song..could go up against anything he has ever done, ever evetr

  

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96. "As much as Gold grabbed me...Time knocked me out"
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I agree...one of his best songs EVER!!

Andy's vocals compliments his so well on that song and What it feels like

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111. "RE: As much as Gold grabbed me...Time knocked me out"
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Yep Time is !!!!

As the song stretches out and hits its stride, it feels like P is channeling a little Sly.

It's a great cut....

  

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97. "Yessir... that song killed me"
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>The song that has really creeped on me over the past few days
>is Time. He creates a beautiful sound scape the way his
>vocals are muted, while Andy Allo's are not. Take the music
>on top of it and it creates this dreamy atmosphere. This is
>going to sound silly especially since I'm 37 years old, but
>when I listen to it, I just want to lay down in a field with
>my wife and watch the clouds go by. That is a good thing.

and that BASS!!!! the bass. Man. My dude ain't dropped something like that in so long, it feels like.

I had that on as day turned into night, on the highway... I had to eventually put it on repeat

  

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98. "RE: Yessir... that song killed me"
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That bass is so sick. I can go on and on about the song. Andy's first verse is so well written. One of the things I love so much about prince is that he writes love songs whether up tempo or a slow groove that I can relate to. Time is a perfect example where he not only hits the mark, he hits a home run. I listen to the subject of the song and say to myself yep that's how I feel in that situation. Thanks Prince for understanding. Time is the perfect example. I missed it on first listen but the second Time through it brought back the moment in my life i realized I wanted to marry my wife and how I love spending time with her and now with the chaos of 2 kids 2 busy jobs bills etc. I just want to spend time and when i get time... well you get it. Damn P you nailed it.

  

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99. "RE: Yessir... that song killed me"
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That bass is so sick. I can go on and on about the song. Andy's first verse is so well written. One of the things I love so much about prince is that he writes love songs whether up tempo or a slow groove that I can relate to. Time is a perfect example where he not only hits the mark, he hits a home run. I listen to the subject of the song and say to myself yep that's how I feel in that situation. Thanks Prince for understanding. Time is the perfect example. I missed it on first listen but the second Time through it brought back the moment in my life i realized I wanted to marry my wife and how I love spending time with her and now with the chaos of 2 kids 2 busy jobs bills etc. I just want to spend time and when i get time... well you get it. Damn P you nailed it.

  

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93. "RE: he should def stay with warners"
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>only half way through AOA but this has to be his best album
>in i dont know how long. i wonder if its just him who decided
>to try a little harder this time, or if WB somehow still has
>old staff he knows there, or maybe he felt the time was right
>to be a bit more like prince. who knows, either way, this is
>the kind of prince album i generally want at this stage in his
>career. impressive. if he tours with this one, i wont be
>annoyed. not sure i can listen to the 3rd eye girl one too, im
>happy just knowing this one is a solid 3/5 lol. im not sure
>how i would expect prince to age (i cant see him doing
>respectable covers or something all grown up and adult, i.e.
>become consciously mature and boring, though i do sometimes
>wonder what he would sound like doing something 'rootsy' and
>stripped down) but this actually is the prince i remember, in
>a comfortable way (though im not sure about that big daddy
>kane rapping on the first song). i think this might be the
>album where i can stop being mad at prince.
>
>i half expected morris day to turn up at the end of the gold
>standard.


its been very long..like you can go outside at a cookout and put on both cds and no one gonna you the side eye....they gonna be partying with you..it reminds me of the back to back 1 2 punch of 1999 and PR..welcome back skipper..knee grow shoudl sweep the gtrammys

  

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"RE: new Prince song 'Funkandroll'"


          

there is absolutely nothing out currently that is seeing the 2nd half of this cd,,from "this could be us through last Affirmation III" period

  

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95. "RE: new Prince song 'Funkandroll'"
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there is absolutely nothing out currently that is seeing the 2nd half of this cd,,from "this could be us through last Affirmation III" period

  

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102. "yall mfks (org, okp, etc) got me hyped to hear this.."
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betta not have lied and got my hopes up

  

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103. "dude."
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art official age is the best prince album since the truth.

not that there's a bunch of competition, but it really is damn good.


  

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104. "RE: dude."
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>art official age is the best prince album since the truth.
>
>not that there's a bunch of competition, but it really is damn
>good.

Better than Rainbow Children?(musically)...dont fug with my emotions Shock

  

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105. "well, your mileage may vary"
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but i certainly prefer this to rainbow children.

the gold standard > 1+1+1 is 3



  

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106. "I really enjoyed this, played it twice, no skips...."
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didn't even contemplate ejecting it when it finished first time around

and everything you all said about Time was bang on ! Best Prince track for a long time

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107. "RE: I really enjoyed this, played it twice, no skips...."
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Dude done hit the fell off reset button

  

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109. "no doubt."
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>and everything you all said about Time was bang on ! Best
>Prince track for a long time

that song sounds like it could be from the Gilded Age of Prince

  

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108. "AOA is really good"
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as I've heard from others, he perfected what he was trying with MPLSound and 20Ten and results are way better than either

I've played it thru several times without skipping, something I haven't done with a Prince album in a long time



the 3rd Eye Girl not very good at all unfortunately, couple that were decent but really didn't feel any of the songs, esp that horrible girl rapping song in the middle, what the hell was that?


I will stick with AOA tho, very nice job and makes me proud to be a latter day Prince fan again.

  

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110. "RE: new Prince song 'Funkandroll'"
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Wow both AOA and Plectrum Electrum are strong solid efforts with some "classic"' Prince cuts and a minimal number of clunkers.

I think AOA is a better overall album but don't sleep on the 3rd Eye Girl record. It's got some quality songs like Whitecaps, the title track and Stopthistrain.

Nice seeing (or hearing) you again Mr. Nelson.

  

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112. "AOA is dope."
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like other's have said, Time is that jam.

haven't listened to PE except the very first song. while I like wow, I was a little surprised to hear him singing it since the same song is on Liv Warfild's album. but it called the unexpected.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUSIJ-pd8ro

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113. "I dig it..."
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right direction for him..

few of the new songs I've hard have an early funkadelic vibe to them..

good stuff

  

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114. "I'm on the first track... yall better not be fucking with me"
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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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115. "its a solid B/B+..these folks here claiming A+ and shit"
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116. "this shit is Rave part II"
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Whoever said the vegas shit was gone lied.

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117. "this record POO POOs over Rave."
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I don't hear any "Vegas". Name the track
(I mean the GCS 2000-style "funk" or the funk music with the actual horns in place of "horns", that does not sound like the classic Leeds/Bliss combo.)

What I do hear:

I hear some OONTZ/Daft Punk parody/Dubstep attempts ("Art Official Cage", "Funknroll" remix)
Some attempts at the classic Prince sound, mileage varying ("Gold Standard", "Breakfast Can Wait", "Clouds")
A personal song or two ("My Way Home", "Breakdown")
A Prince-style ballad ("This Could Be Us")
A couple of R&B appetizers ("U Know", "This is What It Feels Like")
and finally some actual classic Prince ("Time")

for the most part, I don't hear Prince doing the kind of pandering that I associate with the lion's share of his Warners-released '90s projects. I hear him "trying to do current music", which is what he tried to do all over the last 20 or so years (with a few exceptions), only this time, he stuck to a theme and didn't let himself get lost into things he shouldn't be doing. No raps that don't sound like his "raps", no additional vocals, no Tony M (or stand ins), etc.

General consensus has been "good not great" and that "Prince, the guy who makes albums" is back, rather than "Prince, the guy who makes music, puts them together and releases them as an afterthought".

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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118. "i agree with this word for word."
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119. "*le sigh*"
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You made me go back to Rave.

You know why? Because these exact same things could be said about it.

>What I do hear:
>
>I hear some OONTZ/Daft Punk parody/Dubstep attempts ("Art
>Official Cage", "Funknroll" remix)

That coincidentally would be the title track on Rave. Throw "Everyday is a Winding Road" for good measure.

>Some attempts at the classic Prince sound, mileage varying
>("Gold Standard", "Breakfast Can Wait", "Clouds")

"Greatest Romance Ever Sold" "Wherever You Go Whatever You Do"

>A personal song or two ("My Way Home", "Breakdown")

"Eye Love You, But I Don't Trust You" "Tangerine"

>A Prince-style ballad ("This Could Be Us")

"Man o' War"

>A couple of R&B appetizers ("U Know", "This is What It Feels
>Like")

"Silly Game"

>and finally some actual classic Prince ("Time")

...

I'm betting the 3rdeye album covers the sound on the Gwen Stefani and Sherryl Crow tracks. Whoever it was rapping took Chuck D and Eve's spot.

But I digress.

>General consensus has been "good not great" and that "Prince,
>the guy who makes albums" is back, rather than "Prince, the
>guy who makes music, puts them together and releases them as
>an afterthought".

This is going to sound whatever but good ain't good enough to hype up like yall did here. And it's just good, not even good for Prince. None of that shit is memorable to me. The whole shit feels like the cover for Breakfast "Can Wait. Probably the only one I'll go back to is "U Know".

I think I'm done. I got so much Prince at this point I'm good. I saw him live a few times when t was still poppin. Yeah I'm good. (Mind you I said this back on Rave LOL!)

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120. "RE: *le sigh*"
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AOA is waaaay too keyboard driven and futuristic in spots to be termed Vegas-ey...

I think some folks need to find some new terms to rip the old man's music apart...

And trust...Rave was a piece of shit album...HORRIBLE...That was dude trying to pull a Santana...Clive Davis' finger prints are all over that shit...

If u find any connections with that album I think u r doing way too much...lol

If anything AOA has more in common with some of his early to mid '90s work when he was taking on contemporary sounds. The difference this time around though is Prince made sure that "Prince" still could be heard....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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122. "LOL!! I'm sorry this is comical man"
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>If anything AOA has more in common with some of his early to
>mid '90s work when he was taking on contemporary sounds. The
>difference this time around though is Prince made sure that
>"Prince" still could be heard....

Again same thing could be said about Rave. You're not going to hear me though and that's cool

I'll use another album. Rainbow Children is a much better album than this. Far more Prince being true to himself. This practically feels like a parody (which the narrating voice accentuates).

If you really like it that much and want to play it for the rest of the year enjoy. I doubt it'll get as many listens as Rave did, only because back then I was in denial trying to benefit the doubt of my way into feeling it. Today though. I'm good.


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123. "RE: LOL!! I'm sorry this is comical man"
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The only thing that's comical homie is you reaching...lol


Listen, the issue is not whether or not u think AOA is a shit album...U can think that until the cows come home because that's just opinion and I've always respected your no-bullshit gangsta with such things...

But about the ONLY thing on Rave that is remotely close to AOA is "Tangerine"....And that's about as pure Prince as we got on Rave...Beyond that? There is no Larry G. funk...No forced duets ("Honey Knows" with Sheryl Crow is sterile as hell)...No horrible covers ("Everyday Is A Winding Road")...None of that shit...lol

And u bringing up Rainbow Children...But a lot of Prince fans view that album as the last classic Prince album (I like it...but I wouldn't go that far...) But Rainbow has NOTHING to do with u making a dubious connection between AOA and Rave...None whatsoever...lol

Again, say that u don't like the album...I can dig it...But when u hear songs like "Time" and "Way Back Home" which r probably some of dude's most personal work in a minute and compare that to shit on that Santana--Supernatural wanna-be album u doing too much on that one...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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124. "I never said Rave was *shit*"
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That's you. I don't think it's great by any means, and willingly admit its panderful but it's still Prince and there's some shit you can pull from it.

>But about the ONLY thing on Rave that is remotely close to AOA

is the whole thing. They are both panderful but still prince so there's shit you can pull from it.

>is "Tangerine"....And that's about as pure Prince as we got on
>Rave...

I guess we can at least agree on this.

>Beyond that? There is no Larry G. funk...No forced
>duets ("Honey Knows" with Sheryl Crow is sterile as hell)...No
>horrible covers ("Everyday Is A Winding Road")...None of that
>shit...lol

There are shitty raps though.

>And u bringing up Rainbow Children...But a lot of Prince fans
>view that album as the last classic Prince album (I like
>it...but I wouldn't go that far...) But Rainbow has NOTHING to
>do with u making a dubious connection between AOA and
>Rave...None whatsoever...lol

Rainbow is better than both of them. I brought it up just because it's obvious you're offended by the Rave comparison and it's hyperbolizing my point which is that when folk are talking about a return to form I was at least expecting Rainbow levels, but it's not there at all.

>Again, say that u don't like the album...I can dig it...But
>when u hear songs like "Time" and "Way Back Home" which r
>probably some of dude's most personal work in a minute and
>compare that to shit on that Santana--Supernatural wanna-be
>album u doing too much on that one...

*shrug* They're both cool I guess (i just listened again). But like I said it's Prince, there's something you can pull from it. Just like there's something you can pull from Rave. "Tangerine" you agree on, but I'd urge you to go back and listen to "Man o' War" and even "The Sun, Moon & Stars" again.

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129. "RE: I never said Rave was *shit*"
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The problem is u don't realize that Rave is a shit album....That album got some of his worst reviews of his careers. People saw it for what it is...A really desperate attempt at relevancy....

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131. "You're really mad I won't call it *shit*"
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I'm a fucking stan dun. I don't think Prince has any *shit* albums. He's to talented for complete duds. There's always soemthing you can take from them. Shit I'll defend Old Friends for Sale and Chaos and Disorder if you want. Everything you say about Rave is true as an album. But I'll still say those songs are better than the *shit* you want to make the whole album out to be.

But to the point I wasn't calling this album shit. I'm just saying it's nowhere near as good as you guys are making it out to be. As much as you want to talk about it having pure Prince, he's still pandering like fuck. If you can't see that, maybe it's the type of pander you enjoy. Me I just see it for what it is.

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133. "leave him alone, murph. i've been where he's at. "
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i was fully intending on being disappointed, but i had to make a great effort to cancel all the noise (residual frustration with past efforts, my hangups about his current persona as an old ass JW, how not "cool" he is...just a lot of stuff) and just listen.

it's a good album and he'll win a few grammys off it.

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127. "the main difference is that"
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on "Rave", Prince made the "Prince" equivalent of a major label rap album from someone who makes much better mixtapes. All those big-name features, all those songs made to "fit on the radio". Plus it starts off with a song that might as well have been on the Batman album (the title track).

I don't -quite- get that vibe on this record. Sure, you could play some of these songs on the radio but they don't have the same feel, even if they have some of the same sounds. It errs more toward "Prince", more than it does the mainstream. The only features on this album are people who are "related" to Prince (Lianne La Havas, Andy Allo). Whereas, Prince had some big names on Rave, trying to get people to buy it for reasons other than him.

If your beef is that he's not being "challenging" (i.e. he's done stuff like this before), I get it. If you prefer Rainbow Children, I get it, too. I think that was probably the last album before this one that makes me feel confident in Prince. I think that this is a far superior attempt than what Rave (and others like it, like 20Ten, which he didn't even release widely) managed.

I really wasn't expecting to hear something left field. I was expecting to hear a "Prince" album in a modern context. Something like Condensate (which I won't hear a bad word about). On their own I really didn't think I'd like the songs but together they kind of fit together in the way his albums used to.

Now as for PlectrumElectrum I think he's done a lot of songs like -that- before, but there are some nice moments. There's one really bad (or rather, ill-fitting one). I kind of see it more as a side album though.

  

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132. "This is what led to the Rave comparison"
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>Plus it starts off with a song that might as well
>have been on the Batman album (the title track).

"Art Official Cage" got me in that mood from jump and nothing really pulled me out of it.

>I don't -quite- get that vibe on this record. Sure, you could
>play some of these songs on the radio but they don't have the
>same feel, even if they have some of the same sounds.

The sounds all over this are just meh imo which contributes to it. Everyone talking about bringing back that prince funk or whatever but I don't hear that at all. I just here cliche after cliche after cliche.

>If your beef is that he's not being "challenging" (i.e. he's
>done stuff like this before), I get it.

Boils down to that. I'm not going to throw praise on him for shit he's done ten times better just because he's also done stuff that's ten times worse.

> If you prefer Rainbow
>Children, I get it, too. I think that was probably the last
>album before this one that makes me feel confident in Prince.
>I think that this is a far superior attempt than what Rave
>(and others like it, like 20Ten, which he didn't even release
>widely) managed.

Third times a charm. Just for the record I skipped 20Ten and I think the one before it to (don't even remember) because I don't thin he's going to get it back. I think the only chance he's got at late career glory is to try his hand at another stripped down album like The Truth. I'd fuck with that, but after this I probably won't bother with much else he does. It's par for the course, but this is the man who's gotten holes in one on all 18 holes.

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121. "RE: its a solid B/B+..these folks here claiming A+ and shit"
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At least in this thread there is only one person that gave it an A...

I think for the most part people have been very nuanced on their views on this album....

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125. "Im actually upping to B+/A-"
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126. "LOL!!! It's a C/C+ at best"
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If this shit is an A- how the fuck you rating his classics? And remember there are at least ten of those. All better than this.

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128. "my take on the album, track by track"
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Folks are way overselling this. But it shouldn’t be undersold, either. My short version: it’s a solid effort that definitely sounds more inspired and more like the Prince we know and love than anything we’ve heard since at least TRC and Musicology (both albums I’m good with, the former more than the latter of course). At the same time, it suffers from a lot of the same stuff that everything by Prince suffers from at this point: terrible lyrics, half-baked concepts, mediocre production, and too much effort to sound relevant/current. I can definitely hear analogies to Rave in terms of slotting in obligatory stuff - people forget that production values aside, Rave actually had a lot of good shit - but I do think he’s shooting at a slightly higher level here. A bit less patronizing, a bit more directed to his fan base. Don’t usually grade records, but I’d probably give it a B, maybe a B-, which in my legend is “good; better than average but not great.”

My track by track:
Art Official Cage - I wanted to like this song, but it almost made me not listen to the album. Shoots for the eclecticism of Thunder or Rock n Roll’s Alive…, but winds up with something pretty smelly. And then he throws an awful rap on there. And that starting beat? That shit’s worse than “Fall In Love Tonight” (which was cringe-worthy) … I don’t think I could play that for anyone else with a straight face. D+ for effort.

Clouds - Now this track I’ve actually warmed up to a lot. Even the lyrics are pretty decent. Would really like a version without the spoken interlude, because the music at that point is some of the best shit on the whole record. B.

Breakdown - Mad at this song because it could have been great if dude wasn’t paradoxically lazy: take out those stupid synth stabs, write a better bridge and a few less blatant lyrics. As it stands, it’s like a lot of the album: better than average, far from great. B.

The Gold Standard - I agree that “Vegas” is a pretty empty word in trying to describe what folks haven’t liked about a lot of P’s funk efforts for a while. This isn’t much different from a lot of his other stuff in this vein, but the vocals and space given for the groove to move around set it on a higher tier. The arrangement is great, and it’s a track that I could hear him doing an extended b-side of (if he still did that shit). A.

U Know - Mixed on this, need to hang out with it longer. It feels out of place here; besides FunknRoll beat it’s the most obvious appeal to a modern “urban” sound. He pulls it off pretty well here, but always bit hard for me to take him seriously when he’s in R Kelly mode … and nothing about the lyrics are helping. Right now, probably a C+.

Breakfast Can Wait - I’ve liked this track for a while. I feel like it’s a bit of an inside joke to P’s fans, a place where can let his weirdo sense of humor out to play. To outsiders, the question is “is he serious?” To insiders, the question of seriousness doesn’t even come up. Musically, it’s reminds me of that airy, open, sparse beat-and-bass sound he’s been playing with for a while (see: What do you want me to do?). It’s one of his best sounds these days, I think, simultaneously nostalgic and futuristic… B+.

This Could Be Us - Aside from “sex with me ain’t enough/that’s why we got to make love metaphysically” or whatever, this shit is a *solid* Prince ballad. Love it from start to finish. And even on that awful line, the vocal swoop thing on “metaphysically” is *classic* Prince. Total Arrangement: classic. Even that breakdown near the end, which borders on contrived, keeps itself in play somehow… If anyone wanted to know which song to dl, only one, I’d probably say this or Time… even with that line I’m giving this an A+.

What It Feels Like - How is he going to take a perfectly good beat and ruin it with awful lyrics and a lackluster melody? It’s not even the other girl’s voice (who is that?) … the tune’s a bit monotonous, too, and at 4 mins feels too long. Not awful but I could do without it. C-.

Way Back Home - I think this song is going to really grow on me, and I like its reprisal at the end of the album, too. Reminds me of one of the sections of “Impossible Soul” from Sufjan’s Age of Adz album (and I mean that in a good way, I loved that album -- this could have been a b-side to that album and not sounded out of place at all). A few points off for some pretty trite lyrical shit and at least one cringeworthy moment (“power to the one who can raise a child like me” --- I’m not even sure what that means). But that rhythmic vocal refrain that ushers the song out and comes back with it a few tracks later, “until I/I find my…” is haunting and smart, as are some of the tune’s other twists and turns. Like Time, it has a nice slow build. A.

FunknRoll - It’s fine. The more I listen to it, the more I find the outro to be kind of contrived (he uses that double-time shit way too much when he tries to get into “rock” mode). That opening guitar riff is the best thing on the track, and it’s cut too short by semi-awful lyrics and some awkward grandstanding. I would not be mad to hear it live (it’s like Days of Wild in that sense), but not something I’m ever going to willingly play again. C-.

Time - I actually didn’t see what the fuss was on first listen, but this shit right here is really lovely. The bass line and solo, the layering and build of the arrangement over nearly 7 minutes --- it’s a Prince fan’s dream. Wouldn’t even sound that out of place circa SOTT. A+.

The worst things about the album are the lyrics (surprise!) and the more blatant attempts to sound current (rather than inspired by current stuff). The best? More than a few quirky, unexpected turns that are synonymous with the man and no one else; some thoughtful arrangements; and a solid number of virtuosic moments that remind us why even those of who consider ourselves lapsed fans can’t help getting sucked back in every once and a while...

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134. "lyrics been killing him for years...not like he can't make a groove at a..."
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Sexy MF and Get Off are what they are because he was PRINCE back then...not this fake ass JW he is now

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