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"The Writer's Bench - The Sophomore Jinx What Artists Let You Down On The..."
Mon Sep-22-14 02:16 PM by Kil

  

          

This week on the Writer's Bench, we chop it up about artists who fell prey to the sophomore jinx and their 2nd album was either straight garbage or it didn't meet our expectations. I already KNOW cats 'round here got a RACK of 'em so what are they?

http://www.willmakebeatsforfood.com/2014/09/live-from-writers-bench-sophomore-jinx.html

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Off top Das EFX, Snoop Dogg and Ras Kass
Sep 22nd 2014
1
RE: Off top Das EFX, Snoop Dogg and Ras Kass
Sep 22nd 2014
2
straight up sewaside is a classic.
Sep 23rd 2014
4
      Very forgettable to me
Sep 24th 2014
5
Good episode
Sep 23rd 2014
3
RE: Good episode
Sep 24th 2014
6
Yea but I agree that
Sep 24th 2014
9
RE: Yea but I agree that
Sep 25th 2014
12
RE: Good episode
Sep 25th 2014
15
      RE: Good episode
Sep 26th 2014
16
Edit
Sep 24th 2014
8
RE: Good episode
Sep 24th 2014
10
      Well...
Sep 25th 2014
14
           RE: Well...
Sep 27th 2014
17
Snoop Dogg, Raekwon
Sep 24th 2014
7
RE: Snoop Dogg, Raekwon
Sep 25th 2014
11
Immobilarity was so bad I forgot it exists
Sep 25th 2014
13
      I would pay $14 for a vinyl single of Sneakers
Sep 27th 2014
18

Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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1. "Off top Das EFX, Snoop Dogg and Ras Kass"
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Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

  

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Kil
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2. "RE: Off top Das EFX, Snoop Dogg and Ras Kass"
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Yup...the funny thing is I kinda liked the 2nd Das album. I thought they brought it lyrically but beat wise the album did fall short. But I also remember probably being the ONLY person at Morgan State back in '93 who felt that way tho lol!

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SHAstayhighalways
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4. "straight up sewaside is a classic."
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full stop.

www.royallegacy.org

For Real (Official Video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBRoCPO8esE

  

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Nick Has a Problem...Seriously
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5. "Very forgettable to me"
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Beats weren't bangin like the debut. Plus they let biters make them abandon their style. They brought it back on Hold it Down though and I love that album.

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3. "Good episode"
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I was in agreement with most of them.

Vendetta was definitely a let down but it did have a few joints. Unstoppable is a Pete Rock banger and he had two joint in the middle called Life N Lessons and Family or some shit that were dope to me.

I can't get with you on Dare Iz A Darkside but that was actually my first Redman album and I loved that shit.

If I was going to add one that would be controversial I would say Life After Death.

I actually like the album better now but it was a let down to me when it dropped. It was just too commercial for me.

And since I never added on to the top 5 favorite verses joint, I'll say in no order;

Nas - Verbal Intercourse
Andre 3000 - Black Ice
Black Thought - Section
Mos Def - Hurricane
AZ - Rather Unique (verse 1)

Classics that need to be mentioned;
OC - Time's Up (verse 1)
Prodigy - Shook Ones Pt 2
Inspectah Deck - CREAM
Method Man - Bring The Pain (verse 2)
Common - Resurrection (verse 1)

  

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6. "RE: Good episode"
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>I was in agreement with most of them.
>
>Vendetta was definitely a let down but it did have a few
>joints. Unstoppable is a Pete Rock banger and he had two
>joint in the middle called Life N Lessons and Family or some
>shit that were dope to me.
>

Hell yeah! K-Def did that "For Tha Family" track. I think Irv Gotti did "Life N Lessons". Havoc had a solid track on there too but those are the only three I mess with.

>I can't get with you on Dare Iz A Darkside but that was
>actually my first Redman album and I loved that shit.
>

My fav album by Reggie. I argue with dudes all day about this album. I liked that him and Rockwilder handled most of the production too.

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9. "Yea but I agree that"
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It's a polarizing album.

If it wasn't what you were expecting, I can see the disappointment.

Like I said, it was my first Red album so I had no expectations.

Can't Wait is still my favorite Redman song with Funkorama right there.

  

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12. "RE: Yea but I agree that"
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>It's a polarizing album.
>
>If it wasn't what you were expecting, I can see the
>disappointment.
>
>Like I said, it was my first Red album so I had no
>expectations.
>
>Can't Wait is still my favorite Redman song with Funkorama
>right there.

I agree. It was definitely a huge left turn if you were expecting a
continuation of Whut?

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15. "RE: Good episode"
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>>I was in agreement with most of them.
>>
>>Vendetta was definitely a let down but it did have a few
>>joints. Unstoppable is a Pete Rock banger and he had two
>>joint in the middle called Life N Lessons and Family or some
>>shit that were dope to me.
>>
>
>Hell yeah! K-Def did that "For Tha Family" track. I think Irv
>Gotti did "Life N Lessons". Havoc had a solid track on there
>too but those are the only three I mess with.
>

I just played this joint...

Survival (Havoc)
Life N Lessons
For The Family
Unstoppable (Pete Rock)
Usual Suspects

Those joints are dope. The rest just fell victim to 97 lol

  

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16. "RE: Good episode"
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Fri Sep-26-14 08:40 AM by Nick Has a Problem..

  

          

>I just played this joint...
>
>Survival (Havoc)
>Life N Lessons
>For The Family
>Unstoppable (Pete Rock)
>Usual Suspects
>
>Those joints are dope. The rest just fell victim to 97 lol

True and it also didn't help that his boy, Royal Flush, dropped a banger that year.

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8. "Edit"
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Bring The Pain (verse 1)

  

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Kil
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10. "RE: Good episode"
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The Life After Death is a good choice too...I personally disagree but I mos def know enough folk who were let down by that album and they were looking for much more of the Gimme The Loot and Machine Gun Funk Big then the Mo Money Mo Problems Big.

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14. "Well..."
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I was good with Mo Money.

It's the second disc that got me.

Another
Player Haters
Nasty Boy
The World Is Filled...
I wasn't feeling Going Back To Cali when it dropped
I hated Hypnotize
I wasn't feeling Fucking You Tonight or I Love The Dough when it dropped

It was just real spotty and those bad spots were on some "I can't believe this bullshit" lol

Listening now I have more of appreciate for it. It would be a real dope single album but what double album do we not say that about?

  

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17. "RE: Well..."
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Yeah...I feel you. Was never a fan of a lot of that 2nd CD...all the jawns you named were trash to me. It's almost like Big did what I feel cats should do now...make a CD for us and make 1 for them. I think that's why I wasn't mad at it like that.

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7. "Snoop Dogg, Raekwon"
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Immobilarity, save one or two songs, was POO POO
Tha Doggfather was... yeah

  

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11. "RE: Snoop Dogg, Raekwon"
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Nice topic...I think Immobalirity will go down as one of the biggest flops EVER. I know some people may not be onto this but Terrence Trnet Darby's 2nd album Neither Fish or Flesh was bad too. Also Puff's 2nd album Forever was another album that was a huge letdown. Not that I was expecting anything from Puff but people can front all they want but No Way Out was a good album basically cause the bulk of it was recorded while Big was still alive.

  

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13. "Immobilarity was so bad I forgot it exists"
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It did have Sneakers! Not worth the $14 I paid for it though.

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18. "I would pay $14 for a vinyl single of Sneakers"
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Lol

  

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