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Starks dunked on Bulls
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"Does George Michael "Careless Whisper" count as Yacht Rock?"


  

          

What's the criteria for Yacht Rock?

  

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I think yacht rock has to be sort of soft pop rock
Aug 22nd 2014
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No
Aug 22nd 2014
2
I actually agree with this
Aug 25th 2014
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Your posts are consistently great.
Aug 28th 2014
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RE: Does George Michael "Careless Whisper" count as Yacht Rock?
Aug 22nd 2014
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maybe it's more Champagne Soul than Yacht Rock.
Aug 24th 2014
4
NO!
Aug 24th 2014
5
ikr?
Aug 24th 2014
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Why do you assume that? n/m
Aug 24th 2014
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I dunno, it sounds like it would fit in my yacht rock playlist
Aug 25th 2014
11
Put it on your yacht rock playlist if you think it fits. Fuck it.
Aug 25th 2014
8
I could see it, that sax does have a bit of a 'Baker Street' feel
Aug 25th 2014
10
No, it's much lamer
Aug 28th 2014
13
This song just reminds me of whatever commercials it was in
Aug 28th 2014
14
i remember this song playing simulatneously on
Aug 28th 2014
15
more like Quiet Storm or (Vocal) Smooth Jazz
Aug 28th 2014
16

c71
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1. "I think yacht rock has to be sort of soft pop rock"
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A ballad like "careless whisper" I'm not too sure of - since that was like POP (no rock). I can't see calling Culture Club pop/ballads "yacht rock" if songs that were just "pop" for their era keep being lumped in with "yacht rock".


Wham, Thompson Twins, ABC, Tears for fears and Culture Club etc. weren't nerdy enough to be considered "yacht rock".


I think the "nerdy-ness" and "dull-ness" of the artist/band makes something "yacht rock".


Nerdy and dull and from late 70's to early 80's.

  

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Jakob Hellberg
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2. "No"
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It's a sappy 80's ballad. I may be wrong but to me, the term yacht-rock is used to symbolize the type of coked-out, slick west-coast rock of the late 70's where smooth fusion jazz, R&B/soul, the softest aspect of FM/arena-rock, slight elements of country/roots-rock and expensive LA studio musicians with "jazz-chops" (think the guys in Toto or the types of dudes you'll find on a Steely Dan record) kind of bled together. Basically, individual songs (not necessarily their entire oevres) by Loggins&Messina, Ambrosia, Michael McDonald/Doobie Brothers, Steely Dan (maybe too "edgy" due to the vocals/lyrics), Christopher Cross etc.

Tehn again, I don't really know what it means but I've seen the "show" the term was based on and have a general idea of what it means and that is NOT "Careless whisper" which is more 80's MTV british haircut pop balladery with smooth R&B overtones...

  

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9. "I actually agree with this"
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>It's a sappy 80's ballad. I may be wrong but to me, the term
>yacht-rock is used to symbolize the type of coked-out, slick
>west-coast rock of the late 70's where smooth fusion jazz,
>R&B/soul, the softest aspect of FM/arena-rock, slight elements
>of country/roots-rock and expensive LA studio musicians with
>"jazz-chops" (think the guys in Toto or the types of dudes
>you'll find on a Steely Dan record) kind of bled together.
>Basically, individual songs (not necessarily their entire
>oevres) by Loggins&Messina, Ambrosia, Michael McDonald/Doobie
>Brothers, Steely Dan (maybe too "edgy" due to the
>vocals/lyrics), Christopher Cross etc.

Steely Dan's turning point is Aja, and a lot of their music from 1976-forward tilted more heavily toward jazz than other styles of music. But I think the description you dropped is dead on.

If it sounds like 1979-80 Doobie Brothers, it's yacht rock.

Case in point, even some R&B/funk artists were playing music in that style. Gap Band ("The Way", from GAP BAND III (1980)) and Con Funk Shun ("Don't Let Your Love Grow Cold", from FEVER (1983)) come to mind.

  

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12. "Your posts are consistently great."
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3. "RE: Does George Michael "Careless Whisper" count as Yacht Rock?"
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i dont know if it does or doesnt, but i know they're both good.
i love me some careless whisper and i love me some yacht rock too. And im not talking 'ironically' love it, i genuinely love all of that soft rock stuff as much as i love my so called 'serious' music...i aint ashamed...

  

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4. "maybe it's more Champagne Soul than Yacht Rock."
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Sun Aug-24-14 10:18 AM by SoWhat

  

          

b/c this would fit as its single cover:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/64/Just_the_Two_of_Us_single.jpg/220px-Just_the_Two_of_Us_single.jpg

fuck you.

  

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5. "NO! "
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6. "ikr?"
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7. "Why do you assume that? n/m"
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THE HOME OF BOOK-NESS:
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11. "I dunno, it sounds like it would fit in my yacht rock playlist"
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>THE HOME OF BOOK-NESS:
>http://www.thisisbooksmusic.com/
>http://twitter.com/thisisjohnbook
>http://www.facebook.com/book1
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>http://i32.tinypic.com/kbewp4.gif
>http://i60.tinypic.com/a59mp3.jpg


plus I can see myself playing this on a boat, eating truffles and drinking Pierre water.

  

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8. "Put it on your yacht rock playlist if you think it fits. Fuck it."
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10. "I could see it, that sax does have a bit of a 'Baker Street' feel"
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13. "No, it's much lamer"
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My girlfriend loves George Michael. I am thinking about breaking up with her.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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14. "This song just reminds me of whatever commercials it was in"
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15. "i remember this song playing simulatneously on"
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both current pop (102.5 here in sac) and the adult contemporary stations (96.1 and 92.5)--which were THE yacht rock destinations in the 80s. christopher cross ran shit on those stations! (he's considered yacht rock, right?)

so even if it's not considered "yacht rock," i defintely think wham! was aiming for that audience when they made it.


Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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16. "more like Quiet Storm or (Vocal) Smooth Jazz"
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White male equivalent of what Sade was doing at the time..

  

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