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Austin
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"Poll question: Is this plagiarism?"


  

          

Fonatelle 'Vitamin F'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN7zWAICH2A

Simple question.

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No. (0 votes)Vote
Yes. (0 votes)Vote
It's a grey area. (0 votes)Vote

  

  

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thanks for making a topic.
Jul 26th 2014
1
RE: No autographs.
Jul 26th 2014
2
RE: /\ For Monday pm /\
Jul 28th 2014
3
I was expecting Can's "Vitamin C"
Jul 28th 2014
4
this is where I am with it
Jul 28th 2014
5
RE: They did.
Jul 28th 2014
6
http://fontanellesl.bandcamp.com/track/vitamin-f
Aug 03rd 2014
19
itamin C was kind of a quasi-rip-off itself...
Jul 28th 2014
7
      Yeah, I hear it. nm
Aug 03rd 2014
16
RE: Well, is it?
Aug 01st 2014
8
thanks for replying.
Aug 02nd 2014
9
      RE: Dude you need to back off.
Aug 02nd 2014
10
           sorry to upset you.
Aug 02nd 2014
11
                RE: No you're not.
Aug 02nd 2014
12
                     so you're saying you're the "phony" guy?
Aug 02nd 2014
13
                          you are such a fucking bitch.
Aug 03rd 2014
14
                               RE: Who does that?
Aug 03rd 2014
18
i really like their album.
Aug 03rd 2014
15
RE: I like the album too.
Aug 03rd 2014
17
      i mean, they're totally biting electric miles
Aug 03rd 2014
20
thanks to everyone for clicking.
Aug 18th 2014
21
They are In the Corner
Aug 19th 2014
22
RE: They are In the Corner
Aug 19th 2014
23

febreeze
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1. "thanks for making a topic."
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Austin
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2. "RE: No autographs."
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``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid to answer.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2014/193910

  

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Austin
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3. "RE: /\ For Monday pm /\"
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``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid to answer.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2014/193910

  

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imcvspl
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4. "I was expecting Can's "Vitamin C""
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To which I still would have said anything is kinda fair in a live performance.
If the recorded it and called it an original composition though... ehhhhh.

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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astralblak
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5. "this is where I am with it"
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I also think some of these dudes thrive off the fact most folks haven't heard those compositions and can pass 'em off as original

this past Saturday, an all black Roots type band, was performing for a diverse, leaning towards young white crowd at a pool party here in LA. After they finished heads where giving them their due props, and I went to the drummer and was like yall freaked Headhunter's "Chameleon", he gave me that why you revealing our secrets look.

i went home

  

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Austin
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6. "RE: They did."
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Mon Jul-28-14 05:38 PM by Austin

  

          

>If the recorded it and called it an original composition
>though... ehhhhh.
>

Studio version just isn't on YT.


``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid to answer.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2014/193910

  

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19. "http://fontanellesl.bandcamp.com/track/vitamin-f"
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Sun Aug-03-14 10:00 AM by imcvspl

  

          

http://fontanellesl.bandcamp.com/track/vitamin-f

"Electric-era Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock &The Headhunters and Funkadelic are some greasy points of reference for their sophisticated strut."

As I listen to it more it's uncomfortably close but I wouldn't quite call it plagiarism.

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"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." © Miles

"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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Jakob Hellberg
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7. "itamin C was kind of a quasi-rip-off itself..."
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Mon Jul-28-14 06:22 PM by Jakob Hellberg

          

Not something that would hold up in court but I always thought its verse vocal-melody was heavily "inspired" by the Seeds "Flower Lady and her assistant"(1967):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uZwCh1ek5M

OK, I just wanted to link the Seeds in the Lesson but seriously, I can't hear this tune without thinking of the melody in the Can-classic and vice-versa...

  

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16. "Yeah, I hear it. nm"
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Austin
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8. "RE: Well, is it?"
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``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid to answer.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2014/193910

  

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febreeze
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9. "thanks for replying."
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Austin
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10. "RE: Dude you need to back off."
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You're not a moderator and you're not even a well liked poster.



``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid to answer.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2014/193910

  

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febreeze
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11. "sorry to upset you."
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just trying to be friendly.

>You're not a moderator and you're not even a well liked
>poster.

  

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Austin
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12. "RE: No you're not. "
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNGZo5gn_tc


``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid to answer.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2014/193910

  

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febreeze
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13. "so you're saying you're the "phony" guy?"
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>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNGZo5gn_tc
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>``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid
>to answer.``
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>http://austinato.bandcamp.com
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>http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2014/193910

  

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14. "you are such a fucking bitch."
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fucking die in a fire already.

  

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Austin
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18. "RE: Who does that?"
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"NO, YOU"

Is he 12?


``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid to answer.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

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shockzilla
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15. "i really like their album."
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they're very obviously playing in the key of bitches brew the whole time.

is it stealing?

or just heavily inspired by?

good question.





  

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17. "RE: I like the album too."
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No one's been brave enough to answer the question.


``they asked me what the meek would get. picture me: afraid to answer.``

http://austinato.bandcamp.com

http://www.discogs.com/lists/Favorites-of-2014/193910

  

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shockzilla
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20. "i mean, they're totally biting electric miles"
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particularly bitches brew

buuuuuut

i'm kind of okay with that.

they've done it well.


  

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21. "thanks to everyone for clicking."
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22. "They are In the Corner"
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23. "RE: They are In the Corner"
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^^^ I saw that playa....


They have these machines now they will take both songs and play them and check the frequencies....

If there are too many matches then they will have a problem...

Madonna did it to Eve (I think) on the songs Holiday Vs. Not today....




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