Buckwild: That was originally meant for Foxy. Tone from Trackmasters picked the beat for Foxy, and Foxy heard it, then she said, Its the worst beat I heard in my life. But you cant knock it because Foxys album is so dope and has so many hits on it. So fast forward to next year. Biggie does the song, Foxy comes in, she hears it, and goes, Big, this got to be the best record on your album. And then I called Tone and said, Yo, this the same beat I gave Foxy. I thought you said she didnt like it. Tone was just like, Man, dont pay attention to her.
Big would call for beats. We would go to Brooklyn to get Big beats. Or he would say, Yo, Im going to send Cease here, drop off the beats to him. He did the foundation of the record before I came in, but he did the outro, and other layers when I was there. Big knows how he wants to sound, but he makes sure the producers also cool with it. Hell be like, Yo, let me know if you like the way it sounds. Because thats your job.
I worked with Big on Tones album and I did couple other things with Big like commercials and several unreleased joints. Even working with him in the studio, I can say its easy because youre communicating with an artist who isnt acting like he knows everything. The people who were most humble and the easiest to work with, came out to be the best. And they were Biggie, Jay-Z, and Nas. Some of these dudes who thought they knew the most, ended up failing the most.
144. "RE: But to be fair..." In response to Reply # 110
I heard an early version of that beat about a year after BIG's album was released, and it sounded nothing like the final version. It was dope for sure (which is why it was being passed around ON TAPE in the dorms), but the Hitmen definitely added that sheen to it by the time it was released on Life After Death (check the credits - there's co-production). I do not blame Foxy for not seeing the potential up front, and not recognizing it on the back end.
Funny you posted this story, though. That beat was the first one I thought of when I saw the original post.
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it has a lil "funkier" vibe and kick but Buckwild version just took it to enough level with soul,were you just immediately zone out soon as you hear those drums drop
39. "if you put this one beside Pete's " In response to Reply # 38
the two records feel different Buck's feels like the end of a funeral procession while Pete's feels celebratory and full of life that's the amazing thing about Hip Hop to me, no other genre of music is capable of that sort of dichotomy
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56. "one of the most successful biters in rap's history" In response to Reply # 0
dude was a straight-up pete rock impressionist. but he flipped being the poor man's pete rock into a successful career and now 20 years later, nobody even realizes he was channeling pete rock's nuts every time he made a beat back in the 90's.
--------- "We in here talking about later career Prince records & your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak
Dj Joey Joe Member since Sep 01st 2007 13770 posts
Thu Jul-10-14 10:18 AM
121. "Lord Finesse Give Those Sounds To Him" In response to Reply # 85
When Buckwild first started to producing he met up with Lord Finesse and Finesse gave him a mpc disc of his old sounds and that's the main reason why he started to use those sleigh bells so much.
--------- "We in here talking about later career Prince records & your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak
Tone was actually one of my favorite rappers during that period.
I understand why people thought he was corny. I didn't mind the lightheartedness, and enjoyed his guest appearances on tracks by Chubb Rock, Nas, Louie Rankin...etc.
But yeah, 98 is banger. Also liked the title track a lot. I need to revisit the album.
>I actually dug that album even though Tone is corny as hell.
Dj Joey Joe Member since Sep 01st 2007 13770 posts
Fri Jul-18-14 01:14 PM
130. "Hells Yeah The Drums On That Beat Was Killer" In response to Reply # 91
This is what I'm talking about when I mean loud snapping kicks & snares, this beat is just boom-bap all the way, I remember when my cousin turn me on to this 12inch, cause I knew who the rapper was and knew Lover Tone was wack so I never bought it when I saw it but when he told me about who produced the "98" track and let me listen to it, I was floored and went the next day to find a copy of that 12inch, took me one week but mane just to have the instrumental to it was dopeness; after that I started checking for anything with his name on it, and I didn't even know till later that he was down with DITC.
--------- "We in here talking about later career Prince records & your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak
I didn't even know about this remix until 2 years after it came out & the funny thing about it is that I owned the soundtrack it came off of too (Substitute Soundtrack) but only cause it's not listed as a remix but I should've still listened to the entire soundtrack first.
--------- "We in here talking about later career Prince records & your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak
This isn't a favorite cause of the production but cause the rappers, Fat Joe & A-Bless was spittin' hard on this joint, but I do like the epic horns on this though.
--------- "We in here talking about later career Prince records & your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak
This was one of Buckwild crews on Staten Island when he use to date a girl from there as well, he has produced almost half their album but only a few songs came out though.
I posted both songs cause both was off the same 12inch and both are dope.
--------- "We in here talking about later career Prince records & your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak
--------- "We in here talking about later career Prince records & your fool ass is cruising around in a time machine trying to collect props for a couple of sociopathic degenerates" - s.blak
165. "This is another great one" In response to Reply # 159
When the Stretch and Bob documentary was screened in Central park they had a big concert to celebrate. Artifacts came out to this song and I got MAD hype. I wish there was a video of that day. It was special.
Found out that the beat was used for Rhymester. Not sure if the Granddaddy IU joint is legit or a mash up or if the Rhymester joint is a case of Buck reselling the beat because it was for a foreign market. Here it is:
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