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imcvspl
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"MIA making too much sense again"


  

          

"By the time it came to the 90s, the late 90s, being a businessman was the beacon to uphold. We've been having the concept of the best rapper equals the best businessman for ten years now, so the kids that are coming up now are the ones that have listened to that. Of course there's going to be information lost in that because businessmen in society are not going to be the ones that promote anything outside of money. So if you narrow the playing field, the next generation has less to put out, to eat and regenerate from. There has been an effect of business rap on the output of today's rap music. But I don't think that's the modern day rapper's fault. We did that. We started putting that as a priority and the industry changed the requirements of what an artist is. The consequence of making it a business thing and making an artist the same as a Wall Street trader is that you do get a robot by the end of it. It becomes more robotic as opposed to being more soulful."

http://thequietus.com/articles/14505-mia-interview

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RE: which is why she left roc nation
Apr 07th 2014
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sprinkles of validity at most.
Apr 07th 2014
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so says the woman who married a billionaire.
Apr 08th 2014
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1) They never married
Apr 08th 2014
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Stop shooting the messenger!
Apr 08th 2014
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what an empty-headed critique
Apr 08th 2014
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Good god, you are a miserable cunt
Apr 08th 2014
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To use her point as a jump off, id argue the current 'golden age' of hip...
Apr 08th 2014
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The earlier quote about indy vs major applies here
Apr 08th 2014
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That's a limited view and the time line is off.
Apr 08th 2014
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the business man was the thug. Jay-Z, 50 Cent etc.
Apr 08th 2014
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Master P = Late 90's
Apr 08th 2014
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she's usually on point. you typically don't have one
Apr 08th 2014
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She's thousands of times smarter than you, hipster dan
Apr 08th 2014
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rap sucks because of a million reasons
Apr 08th 2014
13
The Lesson doesn't like MIA, remember
Apr 08th 2014
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bucknchange
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1. "RE: which is why she left roc nation"
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bruce bammer
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2. "sprinkles of validity at most."
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i mean what is she saying with this indictment?

this is the smoking gun for why contemporary mainstream music sucks?

because business or being business savvy entered the equation of touted attributes of a rapper?

  

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Fructose Soda
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3. "so says the woman who married a billionaire."
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I get what she's saying (eventhough, rap only adopted that model after mainstream America was already knee-deep in it), but I still feel conflicted when a rich entertainer wants to get sentimental about the socio-economic condition of the underpriviledged.
Also, didn't she perform with Jay-Z?

  

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imcvspl
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4. "1) They never married"
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2) He's not a billionaire
3) He was a member of a band she saw that she decided to get at, not some let's find a billionaire to fuck.
4) I know you don't give a fuck and will continue to use the but she married a Broffman as a dismissal, but she will also keep making sense.
5) Yes I am doing five much.

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5. "Stop shooting the messenger!"
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12. "what an empty-headed critique"
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she grew up in poverty, found affluence, understand that she has access to things other do not. this access is partly due to her talent/skill and being exotically pretty. i.e. she is "something" that can be funded and exploited

She understands this opportunity is rooted in systemic and structural inequalities and knows she (like few others) should speak about things here and there.

this line of reasoning would shut down the intellectual theories, intervention, and debates brought to the forefront by scholars the likes of Foucault, Butler, Cedric Robinson, Robin DG Kelley and Vijay Prashad.

it's asinine to believe that because some one has access to social mobility, they do not understand struggle, marginality or silences of a power structure that does not have your interest at heart

  

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15. "Good god, you are a miserable cunt"
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BigReg
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6. "To use her point as a jump off, id argue the current 'golden age' of hip..."
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Is due to the relative death of the labels and getting that kind of businessman cash is much harder to come by even with a hit single/videos etc...the old paradigm

  

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7. "The earlier quote about indy vs major applies here"
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I'm really pissed at Quietus though for mentioning a list of 13 of her favorite albums and then not listing them. It's like they said, the fuck is with all this hip-hop shit. Let's just ask her a question about that rather than list em because they don't think that's their target audience.


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8. "That's a limited view and the time line is off. "
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Early 90s there was a lot of diversity in rap. It was towards the end of that era that the we saw the homogenizing of rap but it wasn't as the Businessman but rather it was that of the thug. The the thug was replaced by the business post 2000 as the one homogenized face of rap. When you consider that the businessman replaced the thug, the businessman is an upgrade.

She generally just speaks out her ass.



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9. "the business man was the thug. Jay-Z, 50 Cent etc."
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10. "Master P = Late 90's"
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her ass talk is on point.

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11. "she's usually on point. you typically don't have one"
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iota of what your talking about, as it typical of your responses to political or social critiques by her, Lupe, or Mos

  

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16. "She's thousands of times smarter than you, hipster dan"
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Good grief the Lesson is sad

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13. "rap sucks because of a million reasons"
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14. "The Lesson doesn't like MIA, remember"
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The Lesson thinks Seth Rogan is responsible for her
success

The Lesson likes Diplo better

The Lesson is full of weak, silly dweebs

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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