1. "hellMfknYa. a 14min cut to fuck with." In response to Reply # 0
i have my daughters this wknd, so i cant get busy on this right away.. but i'm gonna go hard and rugged on this for the apriL. feeling very hungry these days
Yeah sometimes, but really that's usually the time that my wife wants to hang out because she's at home with the boy all day and I'm off at work. Also, even if I have time I don't really use it because I'm usually burned out and just want to zone out and watch TV. Really, I'm at my lowest level productivity wise after the sun goes down. Unless I'm staying up all night and eating a 2nd dinner, but I definitely can't sleep all day with a kid.
Check out this quote from Questo about J-Dilla. I wish I could do this so bad...
"Dilla keeps regular business hours for music creating (7am-5pm). (which struck me odd for i was also in my 4th year of co-piloting D’Angelo’s sophomore Voodoo LP in which we’d START at around 6pm and end at like 9am) like that struck me ODD. like i am WHOLLY committed to music making. but i got IN the music business so that i can sleep in late. this dude gets up at 6am and has about 4 complete MIND BLOWING beats ready before 9am?! who does that?!"
>I just came home from the hospital with a lil man myself, and >its already showing on my beat stats and not in no good way >lol... > >Hope youve enjoyed the weekend, > >looking forward to hearing the spacee dopeness when time >comes!!!
I rarely post on here anymore, but this caught my eye... Congrats! Mine's 2 months. It's a blessing!
not gonna peep this until I get a chance to hear the sample source and have time to work something out myself! I already know you are gonna come stupid with it so I don't wanna distracted. lol
Yeah proper might be the best way to describe it lol...
I dont remember who it was in here that started droppin quotables in the chorus, but since then Ive been doin that urrtime on some copycat shit haha...
29. "i'm waitin for your #2" In response to Reply # 3
i have been chillin. probably listened to this whole original song in the background while i been working around the house or 'online' n shit about 5-6 times. i haven't even listened for anything to sample yet or even listened to the joint intently. it's been on like when you go to a kind of nice and cool dining establishment with your lady on a friday night, and the jazzy shit is in the background playing while you are nibbling on the fresh italian bread sticks that just came out the oven... waiter asks what ya'll are drinking, and you tell him, shit, you already know. something strong and cool. meanwhile the music's still on in the background n shit ; complimentin the fuckn mood.
that's how this original song has been playing while i've been online a few times.
but i'm about to start studying this beiitch . i just haven't had enough of myself to give to doing this and spending time with it yet. i'm waiting for that little light bulb to go off tho..
Very nice man. Loving the vocals on the chorus. Wish this joint was longer. I could definitely vibe out to this joint for a while. Good to see the change ups, intro and outro and pauses on there as well. Works as a complete song. Longer though!
your chops on here are crisp. you dig deep in the samples and create sounds which is a art.
the drums got a good slow bounce to them.
and i like how you faded the beat out with the vinyl losing power at the end.
the beat is good, but i've heard so many banging bangers from you i want to hear part 2 submit that crushes this one. i'm kind of in the right mood to right a ill verse on a dope track tonight
Thanks, I think it worked out well too, actually had drums and everything for that - went and deleted it for no reason at all. Stupid.
>your chops on here are crisp. you dig deep in the samples >and create sounds which is a art.
Word! I really try n make something else outa whatever source im looking at. Its an integrity thing. I can listen to other producers loops-with-drums for years, praising them as the shit, but when it comes to my own stuff, to feel good bout it, I hafta make a whole nother foundation (almost) from scratch... Weird contradiction...
>the drums got a good slow bounce to them. > >and i like how you faded the beat out with the vinyl losing >power at the end.
Thats the signature lol. Tell you a secret thats been naggin me - my prefered audio editor always has a slight pitch/speed up before slowing it all the way down, and I never got around to adjusting that envelope. Lazy.
>the beat is good, but i've heard so many banging bangers from >you i want to hear part 2 submit that crushes this one. i'm >kind of in the right mood to right a ill verse on a dope track >tonight
Yeah, same feelin I had - my beats are startin to flow together, lacking the uniqueness... Gotta get on my A-game again.
chops were on point. ur beats stay crisp but this one had a lot of extra bottom to it. & ur drum game is pretty enviable at this point mang. lol and nice touch at the end to slooowwww everything down. i was slightly obsessed with doing that on random occasions in my beats last year. its amazing how just that one touch of quirk can add so much to a song. cos here we are talkin about the shit. good stuff.
91. "Yoo, preciated V." In response to Reply # 61 Sun Apr-20-14 05:03 AM by _Torchbaras
I usually go deep into the mix concentrating on extra small things, and sometimes that takes the focus off the bigger picture, in this case the massive bottom lol... Its cool tho, rather that than all telephone freqs hah!
>ur drum game is pretty enviable at this point mang.
Maaan, thats dope comin from you - I consider you the OG rhythmaster of the chops! Thanks a bunch. I must admit I envy other beatmakers with they perc and various hats thruout they joints - I RARELY stray from one kick, one snare, one hat lol...
Glad you listening, taking time out to feedback, and yeah, that turntable off fx is the shit!!!
the part where the beat comes in at 0:36 - 0:57 is where i thought the beat got really got funky. that little segment right there reminded of some JZone sht.
in terms of the over-all remix, adding the metal face on the track tied the joint together nicely. &that's the beauty of vocs. liked the chops at the end to close out the track .,
I'm really feeling this one. It's starts off slow, but really gets in the zone once the vocals settle in. I love the change ups and the drums sound extra nice. I really dig the chops as well. Very well done. Props for going the extra mile with the video.
actually sounds like sumthn MF would've actually picked himself to rhyme over. what can i say cept that the beat sounds tailormade for MF or maybe the Wu, or anyone with similar capacity to shoot mind bullets with a detached shmooveness. sofar impressed by everyones chops, not an easy thing to do with such a lengthy sample source. but it's making me not anticipate the extra work i gotta now put in to match this kinda dopeness. extra points for the video. thats something i wana participate in for the next one, shit looks fun.
The idea of having repeated short chops for a foundation is dope for adding depth/richness that the main chops cant, but I actually liked the section at 1:20 where its the lil longer chops that gets the spot!!! Real dope section right there...
The lil quotables sprinkled around is a nice detail too...
If I was to point my finger, Id say the drums is all snap and no bottom but thats in the mix, and can easily be done!
Also, the Riding Hi vox is REAL loud in the mix, but hey, whatever!
All in all, SOLID work, props on the "mosaic" feel!
Thanks for the feedback. yeah, the drums are not eq's at all! I got to a point where I was like "I've used too much time on this beat already, just gonna drop it!"
I think this is the first one I've posted before, but I've tried before on past ones. I usually tinker with them so long that it gets too late to post it, so I just dropped this soon as I felt decent about it.
38. "nice soulful groove" In response to Reply # 11
sounds like the drums were sampled and chopped straight off the breakbeat. no extra butter or effects on em.
i like the short chops and melody you built the track with. i also dig the vocal sprinkles you put all thru the beat. the break where the beat drops out at 2:22 was player too.
this is a raw cut right here. reminds me when i had my first mpc2000xl, and it was about straight putting a piece of wax on a turntable, running it thru a dj mixer, straight into the MPC, and chopping the shit out of the samples , being creative, and recording it straight out of the mpc to a cd. with no extra. plus i see you with the b.ig, az, the female sining,& redman vocs
Love the chops on this. Dope drum sounds and I dig the pattern. Dope vocal samples, yes, yes. (although I agree with Torch that they need to be lower in the mix to blend with the beat better, but that's simple to do).
63. "took a minute to warm up but then hit a sweet groove" In response to Reply # 11
i'm a drum guy first n foremost. i play drums n percussion but i started beatmaking around about the same time (2000/2001). which doesnt mean im picky, just means ill always have sumthn to say about the drums. in this case, the drum sounds and structure themselves are all dope, i woulda just tinkered with the mix some more, maybe beefed it up (lazy guy talk for more bass via the EQ), and with like a teaspoon of reverb. just a general phattening up. otherwise, i didnt get bored for the entire duration (typically the entries are shorter than 3mins so if u can make somethin longer than that and not lose attention and cause steady head-noddage, then its an achievement). digs it.
My fav. apsect is how well your vocal samples fit and flow with the beat. It really takes it up a notch and takes this from just a beat to more like an instrumental from a full song.
I feel like an artist could just fill in the blanks. Im not great with using vocal samples so I might have to jack you and Torch for the next go round and see if i can incorporate that in some type of way next time.
Im not sure how I feel bout the contrast between the machinery drums and the dusty acoustic samples, but since your drums are so low in the mix, it really aint a problem here!
Love all the small breaks, really a dynamic exp all the way thru - layering is nice too...
64. "like walkin through a smoke-filled room..." In response to Reply # 22
...im the contract killer with a conscience, waiting for my target and sipping on a whiskey, at some kinda highscale uppity socialite gathering and everything looks vintage. cool chops and the beat was real subtle but did a lot in maintaining the overall mood (you dont want overly powerful beats over sumthn that chill). dig the those one or two bits where you reversed the sample. i'm a big fan of reversing and time-stretching.
41. " this beat is something different" In response to Reply # 31
this beat u did has a whole different flavor and character to it then anything else i've heard in a minute.
you came with your chop game on this one too. several folks did so far.
but the groove on this is dope. the levels sound good. i like the way you got the vocal spices sprinkled in. the drums are going hard, and you got busy with the different sampled elements. lots of folks are rocking with the vinyl crackle in the beat these days and it's all good.
the coolest shit on here is when the beat drops into the main groove at 0:46 and keeps riding tho. you freeked it at 1:25 to when you brought the xylophone sounds in .
I really appreciate the in-depth feedback. Good to read. Yeah I definitely tried to not make things change up too often (learned that with the Barbara Streisand one last year). I'm trying to find the sweet spot between too long (All my old beats are 5 or 6 minutes) and too short. I guess it depends on the beat, but I feel like this format has worked better than my last few because it's a little bit longer.
On the real tho - this is the best shit Ive heard from you.
Drums are phat n crisp, sits nice in the mix too!!! Fast paced cymbals sprinkled are DOPE...
The way you utilized the chimes, piano, bass and guitar is extra extra! It all comes across just the way Id like it.
Also, just when I thought I had it figured out for a melodic 90s era boom bap beat, in comes the switch - that hectic, kinda confusing vibe taking it thru the roof!!!
Icing was all the vocal drops - great for variation across the patterns...
Maaan, you really took me by surprise with this one, shit.
Hey Torch, really appreciate the in-depth feedback. Sometimes it's hard to be objective about something I just made. Coming from you it's high praise man.
Yeah I ended up adding the static which was on the Onyx a cappella. (I guess it would qualify as a guilty pleasure in 2014). I thought about making this a remix for Shiftee because the tempo fit without doing anything but decided against it since it was the edited version which is not as good as the reg. version.
All the cymbal work is part of the chops. I didn't really mess with them on their own that much. Although I always make sure they are on beat and don't clash at all by default.
Thanks again man.
You getting any sleep lately? It does get better (or you get used to it, like somebody mentioned above).
>Love me some static. > >On the real tho - this is the best shit Ive heard from you. > >Drums are phat n crisp, sits nice in the mix too!!! Fast paced >cymbals sprinkled are DOPE... > >The way you utilized the chimes, piano, bass and guitar is >extra extra! It all comes across just the way Id like it. > >Also, just when I thought I had it figured out for a melodic >90s era boom bap beat, in comes the switch - that hectic, >kinda confusing vibe taking it thru the roof!!! > >Icing was all the vocal drops - great for variation across the >patterns... > >Maaan, you really took me by surprise with this one, shit. >
66. "ive been seeing sounds a lot today. this one is a jazzy jungle lol" In response to Reply # 31
when the bit with all the hats and cymbals goin off at once comes on, feels like i'm in the wilderness and there's an urgency to everything. then it all kinda calms down as i make my way out towards the end of the track. the vocal samples were ill, spesh like how u brought em in and out at random points. made it feel dynamic, like there WAS a vocal track goin on but it was kinda soaked in reverb and in the background. but still there. beat structure gave it a funky edge. and the chops were on point. again, chop game has been on 9000 thus far.
81. "The drums move this thing along nicely" In response to Reply # 31
The cymbal roll thing gets a little chaotic, and I think a bassline (even following the lead of what notes are on the sample) would put the whole thing in a pocket more.
Good use of those guitar notes and that little bending note in particular, they are the heart of this beat.
85. "Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. " In response to Reply # 81
There actually is a bassline, but I think I messed with it too much. I added some distortion to it and it got a little mushy. I had a first mix without the distortion and it sounded pretty good. I thought I was done, but I had mixed the whole beat on headphones and my kick was not cutting it. So I added new sounds and reworked the drums and also adjusted the bassline. I thought the bassline was pretty strong in the beginning stages so I could just do another mix and fix it.
53. "RE: here's my 1st cut : CREAM - feat. The BzRcyde . " In response to Reply # 35
Didn't get it at first but it crept up on me. (also got it right away on the 2nd listen). I really dig the abstract feel of this. The vocal samples work great. Very random but they all work. Love the delay on everything. I'm a delay junkie myself. Very nice.
sum nxt level bounce shit. samples so mangled i cant make heads or tails of it lol, and that is in no way a criticism or a negative comment. i luv it more when i cant recognise the sample, and this one does a number on it and becomes the dark mood of this track. all the other random elements u got goin work well as counterpoints. overall unique and totally recognisable as ur style.
Yo! I'm over here buggin' to this. I'm at a loss for where you got what and again, another one of you dudes killin' me with the vocal samples! You TJ and Torch have got me wanting to give it a go next time.
Randy Macho Man Savage!!
So dope.
And it sounds so warm and ready to play the backround over the coffee shop sound system while people coolout and unwind.
100. "RE: Instead of making 1,000 beats in your sleep" In response to Reply # 82
I see u on the jokes. U have a saavy listening ear... I actually never do this... But i happened to write that rhyme acapella on a sheet of paper with no beat. It was sitting on the table, and i made this joint, noticed the paper, and it fit. 98% of the time i can only rap a verse to the beat i wrote it to
57. "RE: here goes my 2nd joint : on some iLLadeLph haLfLife FLVR 4the$Leep..." In response to Reply # 50
This one is very dope as well. I love the loose drums and the pattern with the first snare hitting early. They drum sounds hit very hard. Love the pauses in their as well on some analog button pushing style. The bassline and chops work great and make a great melody. Very dope beat.
68. "this is the most quirkless i've ever heard u before" In response to Reply # 50
u still got a stash of these older beats layin around? would be cool to hear a mixtape or sumthn. i rekn beatheads would dig the shit out of em. intro urself with ur old style n then BOOM, hit em with ur current nxt level shit. i can see u were goin for the Illadelph kinda sound and its pretty much on point, tho it ended up soundin a lot more Fantastic Vol. 2 Dilla than anything else. either way, never a bad thing.
101. "RE: this is the most quirkless i've ever heard u before" In response to Reply # 68
Man. Thats a hell of a compliment dude.
I do have quite a bit of older recordings that are better than this, but i vowed to myself to not put them out unless somebody allows me to make a few projects and put them out on a indie label. Til then, the new releases will be the new. But i'll try to have a couple with this flavor on the nxt project
Like the drums, like the general feel. The live shaker you added in doesn't really mesh that well, maybe it's a mixing thing? Maybe because it's the only live element and needs to be dirtied up.
Good chopping, creative work. I like the idea and placement of the drops, but it is a little sloppy where the beat cuts in and out.
Nice comments. I agree with the shaker comment. I wish i got it more 8bit or dirtier sounding. Also agree about the drops. I recorded a version without the drops and the filtered bassline not so loud. Its better. Black thought would sound dope as hell on this beat
103. "RE: HOT shit J!!!" In response to Reply # 95
Thank u very much dude. I know i need to mix my sht up, so i took it back a little bit. I have a stash of shit, but noone will hear it unless somebody lets me put out a few projects. I will be the new madlib, but with rhymes... Haha.
I have a better version o this beat minus the drops and with the filtered bassline not so loud. I fucked up the beat a little because that bassline was a little too loud.
Always appreciate u checkn out my material and coming thru with the notes.
started off quiet. then i see u came with with the lo fi snare. i like the filtered groove this one got. laid back n shit. and i hear u on the piano key tingle part. like how you brought the crowd noise/party ambiance in real lo in the mix
i think we need a 2ndQTR Chop part 2 in this bitch for the beginning of summer. then u know we need one for july n shit.
btw, how is your baby doing? is it a boy or a girl? u squeezing in time to sneak back on some production after the lady and child(ren) go to sleep?
>started off quiet. then i see u came with with the lo fi >snare. i like the filtered groove this one got. laid back >n shit. and i hear u on the piano key tingle part. like >how you brought the crowd noise/party ambiance in real lo in >the mix
Yeah, the vox ambience was what tied it all together to me. I REALLY love that shit lol...
Started effin with the filtered part, and it came out nice so I kept it. I rarely do, since, nowadays anyways, its usually just a halfass excuse for not doin the bass program oneself...
>i think we need a 2ndQTR Chop part 2 in this bitch for the >beginning of summer. then u know we need one for july n >shit.
I dunno man, itd just end up bein you and me anyways lol... Early we will take anyone on again tho! Hows that .38 project goin?
>btw, how is your baby doing? is it a boy or a girl? u >squeezing in time to sneak back on some production after the >lady and child(ren) go to sleep?
He good and we good, thanks!!! Sleepin fine, but my usual creative space between midnite and the early hours are now dedicated to shuteye... Ill make time tho. Just gotta finda right way round it!
Been getting used to my NI MASCHINE...here is a little sample for my OKP family...this is going to be on my MAN VS MASCHINE instrumental/beat album later in the year...let me know what you think
112. "Yoo, I humbly accept..." In response to Reply # 111 Tue May-20-14 04:39 PM by _Torchbaras
...the dedication fam!
Def. been too long, half a year to be exact - where you been at?
Kept the JAAAZZZZ intact with a dope twist - Cold to leave the chops as choppy as is, no fades and all. Dig it.
Lil added choir did the job and separated two otherwise similar patterns - nice...
Snare got some nasty smack to it, CLAPPP!
Camouflaged quotes playin the background be trademark liveguy!!! Lovin that shit - even bit... Ahemm, COUGH... borrowed the steeze and added somethin similar to my second entry lol...
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