this is also a appreciation post.

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Here we come, here we come...

'Let the madness begin now, let it begin' pops in my head every year during this week with the NCAA tournament starting at the end of it.

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I know Dah Shinin' is the fashionable Boot Camp album to name as their best if it's not Enta Da Stage.

And Dah Shinin' is great. It's a put-it-on-leave-it-on/murky-mid-90s/weed-record that captures that era's aesthetic but doesn't truly transcend it.

Rock & Ruck are just so much more dynamic MC's than Tek & Steele and the high points on this album are higher.

There's also a bit more variance on the production, with the full gauntlet of BCC producers and then my boy E-Swift from Tha Liks.

Than Tek n Steele or Buckshot.

Their 2nd album Magnum Force gets overlooked 2..they killed that shit.

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I picked it up upon release and dug it but I think its charms are more subtle; it didn't knock me over. It wasn't until years later I realized how good and consistent it was not to mention that the Ruck&Rock dynamic was great, more so than Tek&Steele who pretty much sounded like the same guy to me (yes, I *can* tell the difference but it's not too noteworthy) or those OGC-guys whose album has NOT grown on me and where I'm not at all sure I could distinguish the two guys NOT named Starang; they were like subtle variations of the same wack style...

Anyway, it's the Bootcamp album that holds up the best to me too. I don't want to use the word "dated" to describe the black Moon-album since I recently stated that I hate the word in music-criticism so I just say that those hooks suck for the most part and it's a bit too samey as an album and works better on a song-by-song level. "Dah shinin'" is too long and even more monotonous and samey; again, song-by-song is the best way to listen today I think.

I guess you could call "Nocturnal" monotonous and samey too but the production is a bit more dynamic and as I said, the two mc's complement eachother so well that I can listen to the album start-to-finish without problem and really dig it; actually, it's very much an *album* to me-not too many standout tunes that knock you out, more the combined impact of the individual tunes and the vibe it sets...

It wouldn't be in my top 10 of 96. It's a good album though.

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However for the juggernaut that was the 90s it's middle of the pack. I am especially proud of that album because they were my hometown heroes. This was the first time I could say I really REALLY knew someone who made an album. They made me believe the shit was real.

The only song that I felt was a weak link was Grate Unknown (Rock's solo). Everything else was from good to great. The production was dark but melodic. Songs like Prowl and Understand were album cuts that were straight up banging.

I'm a fan.

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i had a few friends that were really into that album

had the tape & listened a lot but mainly to Lefleur over & over & over

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...curious as to what you see as the top 10-20 LP's of "96"...list'm...

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Let's see, for me, top 10, no order:

Illadelph Halflife
ATLiens
At the Speed of Life
Iron Man
Muddy Waters
Stakes is High
Hell on Earth
Clear Blue Skies (Juggaknots)
Enigma
Nocturnal

I mean, I'd put it close to the bottom of the top 10, and there are a group of albums that you could argue to be top 10 (The Coming, Wild Cowboys, Dr. Octagonycoligist, New World Order, Wrath of the Math, and others). But I wouldn't have a problem putting it in the top 10.

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>Let's see, for me, top 10, no order:
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>Illadelph Halflife
>ATLiens
>At the Speed of Life
I think I might have it above Speed of Life nowadays.

>Iron Man
>Muddy Waters
>Stakes is High
Hmmm......Stakes is Hard

If I took off that or the Xzibit then it becomes Top 5 and on a given day I could do that.

Iron Man, Muddy Waters, Illadelph & ATLiens are the only non-starters for me.

>Hell on Earth
>Clear Blue Skies (Juggaknots)
>Enigma
Better, along with above the ones you had in the argument parentheses.
>Nocturnal
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>I mean, I'd put it close to the bottom of the top 10, and
>there are a group of albums that you could argue to be top 10
>(The Coming, Wild Cowboys, Dr. Octagonycoligist, New World
>Order, Wrath of the Math, and others). But I wouldn't have a
>problem putting it in the top 10.

I mean, I wouldn't have them there, but I understand that others hold them in extremely high esteem:

Reasonable Doubt
It Was Written (certianly gets major love around here)
The Score (despite the fact that all three have become punchlines, I still really enjoy this album)
UGK - Ridin Dirty (truthfully, never heard the whole thing)
All Eyez and Me & Makaveli (most people's love for 2Pac flows from these)

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so I'm probably like you, back end of Top 10.

I'm not as in love with It Was Written as others here, tho I probably do go back to certain cuts on there more than Nocturnal.

ATLiens
Illadelph Halflife
Muddy Waters
IWW
Ironman
Hell On Earth
Stakes Is High
Reasonable Doubt
Ridin' Dirty
At the Speed of Life

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1. it was written
2. ridin dirty
3. reasonable doubt
4. atliens
5. illadelph halflife
6. Ironmnan
7. all eyes on me
8. enigma
9. at the speed of life
10. King Of The Playaz ball
11. Muddy Waters
12. NOCTURNAL
13. hell on earth
14. The Score
15. Dr Octagon
16. makavelli
17. Can it be
18. Realms of Reality
19. The Coming
20.Wrath of the math

I see most people saying it doesn't crack top 10 of 96 but I wouldn't be mad if someone had it at that 9 or 10 slot.

It definitely has gotten better with time and has held up well.

As far as where it lands out of albums in the 90s...not sure, probably top 100.

it's one of those got lost in the shuffle albums. i loved "LLE" as a single, and Rock was prob my favorite emcee not Starang from BCC in 95/96, but just never got around to the album

as Dah Shinin' does mostly because of the strength of the MC's on it.

and the production is damn near flawless as well.

Sean P was in the ZONE, and Rock was right there with him...

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my favorite was LLE and Operation Lockdown, that beeper sound and how it was integrated to the track was pretty sick IMO

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