Dj Joey Joe Member since Sep 01st 2007 13770 posts
Tue Mar-18-14 08:56 AM
11. "I Think This Post Is, Gotta Be" In response to Reply # 1
I can't front Little Brother is dope but not too many rap artist's albums are coming close to "Fantastic Vol. 2" (that album is in my top 5 all time greats).
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16. "Ehhhh there's a few you can make a debate about" In response to Reply # 1
I never understood why people believe it's without peer in regards to production, even within it's time period it's definitely out of sight but not bulletproof
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34. "it's definitely my favorite of his albums as far as production" In response to Reply # 19
I like the stripped down sound of his the best
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5. "FII is the better album but I listen to TL more" In response to Reply # 0
there isn't a huge a gap between the lyricism and the production and that makes it more interesting to me
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60. "Shit, I like Rapper Big Pooh better than T3 and Baatin" In response to Reply # 8
I mean.... I can see Fantastic winning this poll, but if you think about it it's not as much as a landslide as you may think. Music production or lyrics? Those albums are a 60/40 split on either side to me.
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13. "I much prefer Fantastic Vol 2" In response to Reply # 0
Though I can see why not everyone would feel it. It's a divisive album because of the lyrics. Production wise, it's a landslide victory for SV. Depends on what you personally value in an album, I guess.
15. "The sequencing is a tad bit better on TL too" In response to Reply # 13
The Busta and Kurupt featured songs have bland beats and suck the life from the end of the first half of the album it plays better when you leave them out of the tracklist
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20. "That one too, the techno stuff was much better on WTD" In response to Reply # 18
It felt like it belonged and wasn't forced in
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30. "You can like them all day long, no problem there" In response to Reply # 28
they bring the album down at the halfway point but it comes back with Untitled if anyone but Dilla did those beats you'd feel differently about it, trust and believe
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Which is why the "this has to be a joke" comments are pretty silly I took the opportunity to use your comment as an example of what I'm trying to say by showing people how stupid it can be
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23. "They both still sound great, th' fuck is you talking about" In response to Reply # 22
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27. "Who in the fuck voted for Little Brother's album?" In response to Reply # 0
The fun factor, chemistry between the MC's, the hooks, the flows and Production on Fantastic Vol. 2 is far SUPERIOR to The Listening which sounds like a semi-decent demo compared to the solid album Slum Village delivered.
31. "I love how you niggas are bent out of shape over differing opinions" In response to Reply # 0
shows how pusscake this place has become you fools are so assured at your opinions to the point of not being able to fathom anything different, or even being able to see the other side of it like it actually does something positive for your lives and shit
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As good as Fantastic Vol 2 is it actually isn't that ridiculous to go to The Listening....especially when you consider that the rapping is much better. That said its obvious why people would choose Fantastic as well...the rapping fits perfectly with CLASSIC beats..both are great albums anyway
All this "you can't be serious" bullshit is lame as fuck, it's not like we're talking about Cease-A-Leo or something it's a more legit argument than these people want to admit for some reason
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They weren't nearly as big a deal here until he started that
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37. "About what, exactly?" In response to Reply # 36
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40. "Don't be stupid-wait, nevermind" In response to Reply # 39
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47. "This coming from a spermswiller of the highest pedigree" In response to Reply # 45
chew hot nutts
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56. "have a seat on my meat, trousertreats" In response to Reply # 48
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41. "RE: Fantastic Vol. 2 or The Listening? Which does the Lesson prefer?" In response to Reply # 0
As blasphemous as it sounds, I was always kinda meh about SV….the LB album and all the justus league stuff around that time really rekindled my interest and love for hip hop at that time.
I feel like I should go back and give Fantastic another chance, though...
JAESCOTT777 Member since Feb 18th 2006 28487 posts
Fri Mar-21-14 11:55 AM
44. "Fantastic that shit just rides " In response to Reply # 0
i love the listening too but fantastic kinda breaks barriers chics dug it more in my experience(had em both playing in the ride in different times over the years)
53. "So y'all can admit that the rapping is far better on TL," In response to Reply # 0
but it can't be the better album? That makes no sense. F2 can't be untouchable strictly because of production. People listen to music differently, I personally listen to TL way more these days.
66. "Makes plenty of sense to me" In response to Reply # 53
I'm not big on 9th's production though. The production is not even close IMO. FV2 is far better production-wise. As always it's comes down to personal preference and 9th is is just a cool producer to me.
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Tue Mar-25-14 10:48 PM
64. "I just listened to both, front to back" In response to Reply # 0
Opinion still stands.
Fantastic 2 by a little bit, not at all a landslide. It's mainly because of the production and some of the semi-classic lines, as well as the random appearances on it. The skits on both are funny, but The Listening ones tie into the album more.
The intro alone for Fantastic makes me say that though. The hooks are stronger on it as well..just better songs. But way more memorable verses on The Listening, and feels a lot more personal.
70. "the reason i say this" In response to Reply # 65
is because i missed the listening
when i was in post secondary - i lost my music, stopping caring about it
in the 90s i had all the source and vibe magazines in a locked trunk
i had all the classic covers, all the death row ones, all of them
i laminated them all
when i went to post secondary i did 8 courses a semester for 2 years
it sucked the life out of me, i stopped caring about everything, my life was miserable, i even threw out all my magazines, and in that locked trunk was also a wooden wu tang symbol painted red my friend made for me in woodworking class
here on OKP it was like little brother this little brother that little brother this little brother that
i finally checked out minstrel show, and at first i was like tay's not the most technical MC but for some reason i want to listen to him
he reminds me of fresh prince a little bit in the way that he speaks to you in prose/narrative, and most rappers dont do that anymore, also pooh is dope
basically what im saying is that album brought music back to me
i could feel the warmth and soul coming out of north carolina from 9th, tay and rapper in a time when my life was cold
for that i'll never forget NC
michael jackson and jazzy jeff, fresh prince were pretty much the first two musics i gave a fuck about, i value minstrel show as much as those two, so take that as a compliment @phontigallo
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