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hip-hop styled choruses.

Acceptable hip-hop styled choruses include:

• No chorus at all
• DJ scratched chorus
• Simple repetition of a phrase
• Whole crew chant
• Sample
• Instrumental break

The hip-hop styled chorus here is being juxtaposed against the pop formulaic hook.

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Hip Hop Hooray comes to mind...
Mar 13th 2014
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OPP & Hip Hop Hooray come to mind.
Mar 13th 2014
2
Eric B & Rakim's whole catalog
Mar 13th 2014
3
^basically
Mar 16th 2014
32
Just gonna list my faves ... yep
Mar 13th 2014
4
'Nuthin But A G Thang', Dr. Dre & Snoop
Mar 13th 2014
5
'Fight the Power', PE
Mar 13th 2014
6
'Peter Piper', Run DMC
Mar 13th 2014
7
'The Boomin System', LL Cool J
Mar 13th 2014
8
'The Symphony', Marley Marl
Mar 13th 2014
9
'Get Money', Junior MAFIA
Mar 13th 2014
10
'Buddy' (Native Tongue Decision), De La Soul & nem.
Mar 13th 2014
11
Souls of Mischief, "93 til infinity" n/m
Mar 13th 2014
12
Wu-Tang Clan, "CREAM" n/m
Mar 13th 2014
13
Big Daddy Kane, "Ain't no Half Steppin'" n/m
Mar 13th 2014
14
Special Ed, "I Got It Made" n/m
Mar 13th 2014
15
RE: prodigy - keep it thoro
Mar 13th 2014
16
gangstarr's (primo) whole catalog
Mar 13th 2014
17
Before a certain year, it's pretty much all of them
Mar 13th 2014
18
i think the follow up is the opposite
Mar 13th 2014
19
      RE: i think the follow up is the opposite
Mar 15th 2014
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      RE: i think the follow up is the opposite
Mar 17th 2014
56
HERE WE GO YO, HERE WE GO YO
Mar 14th 2014
20
"Nosestalgia"/Pusha T
Mar 15th 2014
21
Me Myself and I
Mar 15th 2014
22
Puff Daddy w/ The Lox, Lil Kim and Notorious BIG - It's All About
Mar 15th 2014
24
Smif-N-Wessun w/ OGC - Sound Bwoi Bureill
Mar 15th 2014
25
Clipse - Grindin'
Mar 15th 2014
26
A Tribe Called Quest - Bonita Applebum
Mar 15th 2014
27
Geto Boys - My Minds Playing Tricks On Me
Mar 15th 2014
28
Dr. Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg - Deep Cover
Mar 15th 2014
29
Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You
Mar 15th 2014
30
REPRESENT REPRESENT!!!!
Mar 16th 2014
31
"Nas is Like"
Mar 17th 2014
33
id have a harder time naming songs that don't meet these criteria
Mar 17th 2014
34
me too. 'no chorus at all' kinda lets everything else in.
Mar 17th 2014
35
MF DOOM... pick damn near any song
Mar 17th 2014
36
The Roots - Web, 75 Bars, Distortion To Static, DYWM?!?!?, etc
Mar 17th 2014
37
Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill A Man
Mar 17th 2014
38
The UMC's - Blue Cheese
Mar 17th 2014
39
The Beatnuts - Props Over Here
Mar 17th 2014
40
Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown, Poppa Large, etc
Mar 17th 2014
41
Joey Bada$$ - Waves
Mar 17th 2014
42
Raekwon ft. Nas - Rich & Black, Verbal Intercourse
Mar 17th 2014
43
Dead Prez - Assassination, Psychology
Mar 17th 2014
44
Immortal Technique - Peruvian Cocaine
Mar 17th 2014
45
Jet Age Of Tommorow - Welcome Home Son
Mar 17th 2014
46
The Coup - Dig It... Fat Cats, Bigga Fish
Mar 17th 2014
47
2Pac - Pour Out A Lil Liquor, If My Homies Call, Trapped, Shed So
Mar 17th 2014
48
Too Short - Blow The Whistle
Mar 17th 2014
49
Oops, you said classic. Some of those I listed ain't that, obviously
Mar 17th 2014
50
Common - I Used To Love HER
Mar 17th 2014
51
Swagga Like Us?
Mar 17th 2014
52
Rick Ross - Hustlin'
Mar 17th 2014
53
Saafir - light sleeper
Mar 17th 2014
54
ah, the sung chorus from a singer is what's missing
Mar 17th 2014
55

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1. "Hip Hop Hooray comes to mind..."
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The Symphony doesn't have a chorus at all.

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2. "OPP & Hip Hop Hooray come to mind."
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3. "Eric B & Rakim's whole catalog"
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"I Know You Got Soul"
"Move the Crowd"
"Follow the Leader"
"Microphone Fiend"
"Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em"
"Mahogany"
"Juice (Know the Ledge)"

Off the top, the only one I can think of that doesn't fit is the girls singing on "Relax With Pep"

  

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32. "^basically"
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4. "Just gonna list my faves ... yep"
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"The Bridge" - MC Shan & Marly Marl

"Dear Yvette" - LL Cool J

"This Is a Recording 4 Living in a Fulltime Era (L.I.F.E.)" - De La Soul

"Award Tour" - A Tribe called Quest

"Cindefella Dana Dane" - Dana Dane

"Biz is goin' off" - Biz Markie

"The rough side of town" - Organized Confusion

  

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5. "'Nuthin But A G Thang', Dr. Dre & Snoop"
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fuck you.

  

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6. "'Fight the Power', PE"
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fuck you.

  

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7. "'Peter Piper', Run DMC"
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fuck you.

  

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8. "'The Boomin System', LL Cool J"
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9. "'The Symphony', Marley Marl "
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fuck you.

  

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10. "'Get Money', Junior MAFIA"
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11. "'Buddy' (Native Tongue Decision), De La Soul & nem."
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fuck you.

  

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12. "Souls of Mischief, "93 til infinity" n/m"
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13. "Wu-Tang Clan, "CREAM" n/m"
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14. "Big Daddy Kane, "Ain't no Half Steppin'" n/m"
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15. "Special Ed, "I Got It Made" n/m"
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16. "RE: prodigy - keep it thoro"
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17. "gangstarr's (primo) whole catalog"
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18. "Before a certain year, it's pretty much all of them"
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As has been shown in this post, even the hip-hop tracks designed to have/ended up having "pop" appeal had pretty simple choruses, e.g. the Naughty By Nature singles from the first two albums, "Pop Goes the Weasel," "Insane in the Brain," etc.

It was pretty like this up until about 20 years ago. The first three albums that popped into my head from 1994: Stress: Extinction Agenda, Sun Rises in the East, and Illmatic. I'm pretty sure EVERY song on those albums falls into the categories you laid out (though maybe not every song on those is a classic).

Shoot, the "pop" structured hip-hop chorus didn't probably come around until '94 or '95, with artists like Outkast, Mobb Deep, and Biggie.

It's probably more of a feat to name classic tracks before 1994 that had a chorus ("Hand on the Pump" or "Award Tour") or tracks that came out post, say, 1998 without one ("Ms. Fat Booty" or "Mathematics", just off the top).

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19. "i think the follow up is the opposite"
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and what that reveals.

all of these are songs that by the books couldn't get play today. kinda absurd when you think about it.

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"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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23. "RE: i think the follow up is the opposite"
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>and what that reveals.
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>all of these are songs that by the books couldn't get play
>today. kinda absurd when you think about it.

This made me decide to post below a few relatively current songs that fit the parameters of what you were describing. Not all "classic" but I really just wanted to see if I can name a few recent Hip Hop songs that might fit what you mentioned. "A Milli" is a good recent example too now that I think about it.
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>Big PEMFin H & z's
>"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1
>thing, a musician." © Miles
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>"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."

  

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56. "RE: i think the follow up is the opposite"
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Sampled hooks still get some play... they are just chopped and screwed now instead of being scratched..

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20. "HERE WE GO YO, HERE WE GO YO"
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21. ""Nosestalgia"/Pusha T"
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Other recent ones I can think of:

"Chum"/Earl Sweatshirt
"Reagan"/Killer Mike
"Mercy"/Kanye
"Yonkers"/Tyler
"400 Bars"/Game
"6 Foot 7 Foot"/Lil Wayne
"I Get Money"/50

  

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22. "Me Myself and I"
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24. "Puff Daddy w/ The Lox, Lil Kim and Notorious BIG - It's All About "
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The Benjamins

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25. "Smif-N-Wessun w/ OGC - Sound Bwoi Bureill"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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26. "Clipse - Grindin'"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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27. "A Tribe Called Quest - Bonita Applebum"
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28. "Geto Boys - My Minds Playing Tricks On Me"
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29. "Dr. Dre and Snoop Doggy Dogg - Deep Cover"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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30. "Pete Rock & CL Smooth - They Reminisce Over You"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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33. ""Nas is Like""
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most of Preemo stuff, actually.......






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34. "id have a harder time naming songs that don't meet these criteria"
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35. "me too. 'no chorus at all' kinda lets everything else in."
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Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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36. "MF DOOM... pick damn near any song"
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Everything's turning out perfectly

  

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37. "The Roots - Web, 75 Bars, Distortion To Static, DYWM?!?!?, etc"
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Everything's turning out perfectly

  

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38. "Cypress Hill - How I Could Just Kill A Man"
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Everything's turning out perfectly

  

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39. "The UMC's - Blue Cheese"
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Everything's turning out perfectly

  

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40. "The Beatnuts - Props Over Here"
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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

Geto Boys, Poison Clan, UGK, Eightball & MJG, OutKast, Goodie Mob

  

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41. "Ultramagnetic MC's - Critical Beatdown, Poppa Large, etc"
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Everything's turning out perfectly

  

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42. "Joey Bada$$ - Waves"
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43. "Raekwon ft. Nas - Rich & Black, Verbal Intercourse"
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Everything's turning out perfectly

  

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44. "Dead Prez - Assassination, Psychology"
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45. "Immortal Technique - Peruvian Cocaine"
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46. "Jet Age Of Tommorow - Welcome Home Son"
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47. "The Coup - Dig It... Fat Cats, Bigga Fish"
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48. "2Pac - Pour Out A Lil Liquor, If My Homies Call, Trapped, Shed So"
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Many Tears, Gangsta Party, Picture Me Rollin', etc

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49. "Too Short - Blow The Whistle"
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is one that actually got play. I'm trying to think of a more recent one and I'm not coming up with anything. Exhibit C maybe?

edit: Nas - Nasty or The Don?

  

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50. "Oops, you said classic. Some of those I listed ain't that, obviously"
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My bad

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51. "Common - I Used To Love HER"
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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52. "Swagga Like Us?"
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53. "Rick Ross - Hustlin'"
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54. "Saafir - light sleeper"
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When discourse of Blackness is not connected to efforts to promote collective black self determinism
it becomes simply another recourse appropriated by the colonizer

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55. "ah, the sung chorus from a singer is what's missing"
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just got it. duh.

Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

  

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